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NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
I've seen Hummer ads in the past for the H1 in magazines.

No shiot!? :Q Before the H2 came out? Wow, I'm really surprised!

The H2 was the sequel to the H1. Typically it's expected that the sequel will improve on the original (although definition and practice often differ a great deal, case and point: H1/H2). Unfortunately, in this case the sequel to the H1 was inferior. It should have had a different brand name.

I whole-heartedly agree. Sequels very rarely stand up to the greatness of the original if the original kicked serious ass. Here's a list of sequels that sucked and ruined the original:

Ghostbusters 2
Star Wars EP1, 2, and probably 3
Klipsch 5.1 Ultra ProMedia (based on price)
Hoover Windtunnel
Nintendo vs Super Nintendo (probably going to only get agreement from hardcore game fanatics)
Sega Saturn
VHF (I'm fairly certain the Beta came out after VHF, but I could be wrong)
Macintosh :)P)
Metallica
FuseTalk
Miracle Blade (based on cost of original product debut under the company's previous name of Ginsu)
Pepsi One (versus regular Pepsi or Diet Pepsi)
Jackie Chan (versus Bruce Lee)

blah blah blah blah blah

Yes, sometimes the sequel to an original something actually IS an improvement. Most of the time, it's not.


VHS, not VHF.

Sorry, my fingers are really cold and all I could think about was Weird Al's UHF. :laugh: :p
 

Thraxen

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It's implicitly implied by the whole H2 name. There was the hummer before, H1, which makes the H2 the sequel to the H1. Dictionary.com defines sequel as a continuation. A continuation would therefore possess the same inherent traits as the original, and would likely improve upon them.

Or maybe it's just a model number.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Thraxen
The H2 was the sequel to the H1. Typically it's expected that the sequel will improve on the original (although definition and practice often differ a great deal, case and point: H1/H2). Unfortunately, in this case the sequel to the H1 was inferior. It should have had a different brand name.

Wait, who said the H2 was ever billed as equal to or a replacement for the H1? Seems pretty obvious to me they were built for entirely different purposes and should not be viewed in the manner you are describing.

It's implicitly implied by the whole H2 name. There was the hummer before, H1, which makes the H2 the sequel to the H1. Dictionary.com defines sequel as a continuation. A continuation would therefore possess the same inherent traits as the original, and would likely improve upon them.

The original Hummer was never called the H1. It was just called the Hummer or Humvee, depending on model. Now that the H2 has been released, the term H1 was invented to avoid confusion between the two completely different vehicles. The original hummer was designed and built strictly by AM General. The H2 was designed and built strictly by General Motors in conjunction with AM General. AM General's involvement was purely for the namesake.

That kinda puts it in perspective, doesn't it? The H2 was never ever supposed to come close to the H1 and everyone but stupid soccer-moms and elitist bastards who don't do their homework know it.

;)
 

etalns

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
It's implicitly implied by the whole H2 name. There was the hummer before, H1, which makes the H2 the sequel to the H1. Dictionary.com defines sequel as a continuation. A continuation would therefore possess the same inherent traits as the original, and would likely improve upon them.

Or maybe it's just a model number.

The H2 is the commercial name of the product. Just like (I believe) the Western Digital Caviar drives, their model number is WD1200JB, but their model name is the WD Caviar.
 

etalns

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Thraxen
The H2 was the sequel to the H1. Typically it's expected that the sequel will improve on the original (although definition and practice often differ a great deal, case and point: H1/H2). Unfortunately, in this case the sequel to the H1 was inferior. It should have had a different brand name.

Wait, who said the H2 was ever billed as equal to or a replacement for the H1? Seems pretty obvious to me they were built for entirely different purposes and should not be viewed in the manner you are describing.

It's implicitly implied by the whole H2 name. There was the hummer before, H1, which makes the H2 the sequel to the H1. Dictionary.com defines sequel as a continuation. A continuation would therefore possess the same inherent traits as the original, and would likely improve upon them.

The original Hummer was never called the H1. It was just called the Hummer or Humvee, depending on model. Now that the H2 has been released, the term H1 was invented to avoid confusion between the two completely different vehicles. The original hummer was designed and built strictly by AM General. The H2 was designed and built strictly by General Motors in conjunction with AM General. AM General's involvement was purely for the namesake.

That kinda puts it in perspective, doesn't it? The H2 was never ever supposed to come close to the H1 and everyone but stupid soccer-moms and elitist bastards who don't do their homework know it.

;)

Now you're splitting hairs. The H refers to Hummer, it doesn't matter if you abbreviate it or not.
 

etalns

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Oh, by the way, I think anyone who really gets their [expletive] in a knot regarding this is an idiot.

Oh no, the name of the car is similar...but the qualities of the car are different, the horror!

I just like being an [expletive] retentive prick and refuting everything anyone says.

Edit: God the word filter is a pain in the [expletive]
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Have you guys seen this latest commercial for the Hummer H2? It pretty much blantantly just proves the real reasoning to have one.

It starts with a mom driving her kid to school. All you see if the window of the vehicle as she's driving him. She asks if he wants her to drop her off now before she gets in front of the school, but he says no..."You can pull right up." Kid gets out of the car and walks into the school in between a group of "cool" kids I would assume, all with dumbstruck looks on their faces. Then they say "nice ride"...que the image of mom in H2:roll:

At least GM has gotten away from showing the H2 in more rugged situations and have stooped down to the level that they are really on :laugh:

They are simply acknowledging the true capabilities of the H2. It's a grocery gettin' mommy wagon just like its closely related kin the Chevy Tahoe.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
The H2 is redneck rice - all the looks of the real deal, but none of the toughness, transmission strength, curb-hopping suspension ... it's a friggin' tahoe with a body kit.

- M4H

Fixed. ;)
 

brigden

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How many asstards take their H2 offroad, anyway?

On a side note, I saw Hummer cologne today. W... T... F...
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Why do people b!tch so much?

Good question. :)

Are you kidding me, Nik? You probably bitch more than anyone else on this forum.

"Wrong forum! Wrong forum! Wrong forum!"
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Thraxen
The H2 was the sequel to the H1. Typically it's expected that the sequel will improve on the original (although definition and practice often differ a great deal, case and point: H1/H2). Unfortunately, in this case the sequel to the H1 was inferior. It should have had a different brand name.

Wait, who said the H2 was ever billed as equal to or a replacement for the H1? Seems pretty obvious to me they were built for entirely different purposes and should not be viewed in the manner you are describing.

It's implicitly implied by the whole H2 name. There was the hummer before, H1, which makes the H2 the sequel to the H1. Dictionary.com defines sequel as a continuation. A continuation would therefore possess the same inherent traits as the original, and would likely improve upon them.

The original Hummer was never called the H1. It was just called the Hummer or Humvee, depending on model. Now that the H2 has been released, the term H1 was invented to avoid confusion between the two completely different vehicles. The original hummer was designed and built strictly by AM General. The H2 was designed and built strictly by General Motors in conjunction with AM General. AM General's involvement was purely for the namesake.

That kinda puts it in perspective, doesn't it? The H2 was never ever supposed to come close to the H1 and everyone but stupid soccer-moms and elitist bastards who don't do their homework know it.

;)

Now you're splitting hairs. The H refers to Hummer, it doesn't matter if you abbreviate it or not.

So you're saying that the GT500 should be just as great as the GT40, if not better? It's not splitting hairs when detail like that actually matters.