What happens when you try to file a complaint against a police officer? Video inside.

[Dr. Zaus]

How many cops have been killed in the line of duty? How many innocent people have been killed by cops? Who is more dangerous?

Per-capita the average person is much much much much much much much much less likely to kill a cop in his or her life-time than a cop is to kill an innocent person.

 

[gevorg]

Why do they ask for ID?

"The reason why cops in the video are demanding identification and a description of the complaint in person is because they will then look up the complainant’s history and see what officers he may have interacted with. Then that defendant cop will be notified and they will work to get his/their stories straight or create alibis before any investigation by IA begins.

If you ever have to file a complaint with the cops – I recommend simply not doing it or you could be murdered or imprisoned. However, if you insist, then don’t tell the cop who gives you the complaint form anything otherwise you will most certainly undermine your complaint. Of course, not telling the pig anything will most likely result in your imprisonment as this video demonstrates."

 

[DCal430]

You have never had to present ID?

I have been into many government agencies and walked in and received documents, registered complaints and filled out forms with no major hurdles. But the cops always want ID.

In California that is illegal, if you ask for public information they are forbidden to ask for any identification.

 

[Zedtom]

In California that is illegal, if you ask for public information they are forbidden to ask for any identification.

Since this isn't P&N, I'm not going to play the prove it game. But I'm wondering if you walked in to register a written complaint if they would want to verify that you are who you say you are.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Since this isn't P&N, I'm not going to play the prove it game. But I'm wondering if you walked in to register a written complaint if they would want to verify that you are who you say you are.

It would be reasonable to demand this information with the completed form. The behavior in the video appears to be deliberate obstruction at best, intimidation at worst.

 

[DCal430]

Since this isn't P&N, I'm not going to play the prove it game. But I'm wondering if you walked in to register a written complaint if they would want to verify that you are who you say you are.

If you file a complaint you might need to show ID, but California Public Records Act is very clear, no ID my be required for access to public records. As a government employee I am very well verse in the Public Records Act.

 

[DCal430]

Though a violation of the Public Records Act has little consequences, no fines, not much really. A slap in the wrist really. So it is very common for state and local agencies to violate it since, nothing much happens when they do. It is up to you to prove they violated it,so it your word against theirs.

 

[jlee]

"The reason why cops in the video are demanding identification and a description of the complaint in person is because they will then look up the complainant’s history and see what officers he may have interacted with. Then that defendant cop will be notified and they will work to get his/their stories straight or create alibis before any investigation by IA begins.

If you ever have to file a complaint with the cops – I recommend simply not doing it or you could be murdered or imprisoned. However, if you insist, then don’t tell the cop who gives you the complaint form anything otherwise you will most certainly undermine your complaint. Of course, not telling the pig anything will most likely result in your imprisonment as this video demonstrates."

I think you underestimate how vicious IA can be.

 

[HendrixFan]

I am in no way condoning this behavior, and I agree about the fact they need to be better than the people who are breaking the laws. I was just stating that I understand why some of them behave this way. When you are subject to druggies, murderers, rapists, and have pretty much everyone lie to you about everything, you tend to gain a closeness with other officers who have to deal with the same stuff. So I can understand them getting protective.

Once they get to the point of being jaded in their work, and no longer being able to help deliver blind justice they should be shown the door. The have an incredibly important role in society and must remain above the fray. If they cannot do that, they are in the wrong profession.

 

[vshah]

Have a complaint?

Just call 187 on a cop.

It's like 911, for filing complaints.

Heard it in a song.

:thumbsdown:

 

[alkemyst]

this is why gun ownership is important in a way.

Most countries have way more corrupt police than the US.

 

[Joseph F]

I'm just going to leave this here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq2NSJoT6O0

 

[Dr. Zaus]

:thumbsdown:

It was in the movie office space. You need culture.

 

[FallenHero]

Once they get to the point of being jaded in their work, and no longer being able to help deliver blind justice they should be shown the door. The have an incredibly important role in society and must remain above the fray. If they cannot do that, they are in the wrong profession.

What would you consider jaded in regards to police work?

 

[HendrixFan]

What would you consider jaded in regards to police work?

Viewing/treating everyone they see as a criminal.

 

[MotionMan]

Viewing/treating everyone they see as a criminal.

And there is a difference between treating everyone like a criminal and being safe in your interactions with the public (i.e. telling drivers to keep their hands on the wheel during a traffic stop).

The guys in this video were not acting that way to keep themselves safe.

MotionMan