What happens to USC's 3 Peat now?

venk

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I always wondered, in this case does the championship go to the runner up? Or is there no National Champion that year?
 

chuckywang

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Not a good time for a USC fan, eh?

Bush falling out of the no. 1 slot, Lendale White overweight and lazy, Leinart possibly falling to no. 7, and now this whole thing about having to vacate their only national championship.

Oh, and BTW, Link..

Oh, and furthermore: Link 2.

I'm starting to feel sorry for USC....
 

Red Dawn

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That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.

Two out of 3 years.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.


like barry bonds has been the best baseball player right?


cheating is cheating.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.


like barry bonds has been the best baseball player right?


cheating is cheating.

BS. You have no clue what you're talking about. That is not cheating IN the sport. This didn't do anything to his athletic ability and made USC a better team.

Talent and team wise, USC WAS the best team for 3 straight years. His parents living in a house doesn't change that.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.

like barry bonds has been the best baseball player right?

cheating is cheating.
I was thinking the same comparison when I first heard they might strip USC of their championship & Bush of his numbers and accomplishments. I though of Barry Bonds and thought of how much I hate his defenders always saying stuff like "you can't go back and change the numbers," or "you cannot take away his mvp awards." News flash, YES YOU CAN! The olympics do it all the time, and so does the NCAA.

As for Reggie Bush, I think it's pretty lame to go after him for what house his parents lived in.
 

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Nothing will happen. USC, the NFL and Bush's lawyers work to spin this into an attempt at extortion. They are already on it. Once they get law enforcement on it it'll be a done deal.

the NCAA won't touch this. Unlike the Fab 5 who took money themselves. This involves Bush's parents, nothing so far has Bush involved himself other than his possible signing. USC over the last 3 years probably made tons of money and the NCAA is happy with it. it would be huge to see their records wiped out and sanctions against USC.

Bush's likely argument is that he simply does not know about his parents finances. that isn't too far fetched either. He's barely 21. most 19/20 year olds don't know much about their parents finances. Some parents might even hide it.

 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.


like barry bonds has been the best baseball player right?


cheating is cheating.

BS. You have no clue what you're talking about. That is not cheating IN the sport. This didn't do anything to his athletic ability and made USC a better team.

Talent and team wise, USC WAS the best team for 3 straight years. His parents living in a house doesn't change that.

of course it did.

if the money given bush's parents were part of the recruiting effort than OF COURSE it helped the team on the field. :roll:
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: herkulease
Nothing will happen. USC, the NFL and Bush's lawyers work to spin this into an attempt at extortion. They are already on it. Once they get law enforcement on it it'll be a done deal.

the NCAA won't touch this. Unlike the Fab 5 who took money themselves. This involves Bush's parents, nothing so far has Bush involved himself other than his possible signing. USC over the last 3 years probably made tons of money and the NCAA is happy with it. it would be huge to see their records wiped out and sanctions against USC.

Bush's likely argument is that he simply does not know about his parents finances. that isn't too far fetched either. He's barely 21. most 19/20 year olds don't know much about their parents finances. Some parents might even hide it.

you cannot equate a 21 yr old star callege athlete with your normal 21 yr old.

star athletes from high school are made aware of the possible ramifications of finances.
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.

Two out of 3 years.
Over the 3 years they did.

offensively yes, defensively no..

in 2003, they lost to Cal...a team that was destroyed by Texas Tech in the Holiday Bowl that year

in 2004, had an amazing season

in 2005, struggled against an overrated Notre Dame team, and Fresno State?

at best, they had the best team 2/3 years...most likely only 1/3 years...not 3/3 years
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: GeneValgene
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.

Two out of 3 years.
Over the 3 years they did.

offensively yes, defensively no..

in 2003, they lost to Cal...a team that was destroyed by Texas Tech in the Holiday Bowl that year

in 2004, had an amazing season

in 2005, struggled against an overrated Notre Dame team, and Fresno State?

at best, they had the best team 2/3 years...most likely only 1/3 years...not 3/3 years
Well at least according to some Yellow Rose from Texas.

 

Red Dawn

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It seems this is between Bush's parents and some Sports Marketing Group, neither Bush or USC had anything to do with it.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
I'll never feel sorry for USC.
Yeah they are like Texas, Oklahoma, Maimi and Ohio State, teams fans just love to hate.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That'd be a shame since they were the best team and program by far over the last 3 years.


like barry bonds has been the best baseball player right?


cheating is cheating.

BS. You have no clue what you're talking about. That is not cheating IN the sport. This didn't do anything to his athletic ability and made USC a better team.

Talent and team wise, USC WAS the best team for 3 straight years. His parents living in a house doesn't change that.

of course it did.

if the money given bush's parents were part of the recruiting effort than OF COURSE it helped the team on the field. :roll:

I'm sorry, but you're wrong This in no way changed or affected his performance or the outcome of games.

#1 - They only used the house during the 2004-2005 season. You seem to forget that Reggie also played for USC in 2003. Actually, records say they initially met in November of 2004. It was a long time friend of his step father.

So this in NO WAY has anything to do with a recruiting effort or to bring him into USC. This was after he started to become popular and a family friend was trying to bank off his success, as was his family too.

You might want to go read up on what the situation is and go from there.

It's wrong on both sides, but I'd never call Bush a "cheater". The kid can flat out play and this didn't do anything to change that. There's a HUGE difference between what Bonds did and what Bush's family did.
 
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I'm confused... haven't been keeping up to date on this issue. Why would failing to pay for rent mean that Bush is ineligible?
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
I'm confused... haven't been keeping up to date on this issue. Why would failing to pay for rent mean that Bush is ineligible?

His parents "rented" a house from a sports agent at the tune of $4,500 a month. They didn't pay rent from Nov 04 - Nov 05 = $54,000.

Bush didn't sign with the agent/agency and they leaked threatened his family they would leak bad info about his family. Same week, they were evicted and it went public. The agency also filed a 3.2 million lawsuit. They say they gave approximately $300,000 in out-of-pocket costs and are seeking 3.2 million in "damages".

What it boils down to is the family used the agent and the agent used the family to get to Bush. When Bush decided he didn't want to sign with the agency, they tried to blackmail the family.

NFL security sent a memo out to all teams letting them know about the agent and agency.
 

Gunslinger08

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It's funny how retarded this is. He didn't do anything that would have affected his play in any way. Any action the conference takes against USC is a punishment against the wrong party.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
More bad news. Also rent-related.

That's freaking stupid. SO WHAT if Matt's dad paid rent for his freaking son's place. Who the hell cares!?!?

The NCAA is so intent on making sure they drain every ounce of cash out of these kids, using them to help schools make tens of millions. They use them and then spit them out.