What happens to Trumps policies if/when he is not elected in 2020?

amenx

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- The border wall. Will project be abandoned?
- U.S.-China trade policies. Will they be reversed or revised to steady the markets and avoid larger economic turmoil?
- Mid-East policies: Will the JCPOA be restored with Iran? Will U.S. step back in to Syria to prevent resurgence of ISIS (and re-support the Kurds at least in that effort)?
- Other foreign policies, ie, Russia, N.Korea, etc.

These what immediately come to mind. Any other silly policies aside from above that may be reversed or abandoned when Trump leaves office?

Oh, another thing. If all his policies reversed, will Trump be considered the most failed or worst president in U.S. history?
 
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rommelrommel

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Wall is abandoned.

USA tries to get back into TTP (but probably fails to.)

Probably have to negotiate a new deal with Iran.

Damage is largely done in Syria, perhaps other carrot/stick approach to get the Kurds a semi autonomous zone within Syria.

Russia continues to be sanctioned into the dark ages. Open investigations of Russian meddling makes it hard to treat them as anything but an hostile adversary.

N. Korea no more ass kissing but in the end not much change.

Biggest change outside of that will be to restore relationships with Europe and other allies.
 

BurnItDwn

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I assume cost effective border security would be prioritized

I think US-China trade policies will have to be rethought ... Some sort of protectionist policy for labor may need to be considered, but, not with these shortsignted tarrifs

Not sure that Iran will trust the US with any deals. Maybe they will sign a deal with China or UN and get the US to drop or reduce Sanctions though.

Hopefully the concentration camps wont be used at the border any more.

Hopefully the drone strikes that were started by his predecessors will end. Way too much innocents have died as collateral damage (and created even bigger mass of enemies than we had in the first place.)




I suspect Hoover and Coolidge may still be considered the worst and most failed presidents since Coolidge set up the country for the worst econimic failure since the inception of the US, and then it all happened under Hoover (and hoover seemed to do everything wrong and just made the problem worse and worse.)

Of course earlier presidents had genecidal policies that murdered entire native american tribes as part of some manifest destiny scheme... so they might be seen as even worse.

I think Trump is one of the worst, but, in the grand scheme of things, i think there were worse ones in the past.
 

dainthomas

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- The border wall. Will project be abandoned?
- U.S.-China trade policies. Will they be reversed or revised to steady the markets and avoid larger economic turmoil?
- Mid-East policies: Will the JCPOA be restored with Iran? Will U.S. step back in to Syria to prevent resurgence of ISIS (and re-support the Kurds at least in that effort)?
- Other foreign policies, ie, Russia, N.Korea, etc.

These what immediately come to mind. Any other silly policies aside from above that may be reversed or abandoned when Trump leaves office?

Oh, another thing. If all his policies reversed, will Trump be considered the most failed or worst president in U.S. history?

Everything will be gone. It'll be like Trump abandoning Obama's policies. Except this time it will be because the country will benefit and not because black man bad.
 

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I suspect some of them will be reversed relatively quickly. The wall, the Muslim ban, the pro-discrimination and anti-environment policies, the net neutrality repeal, pro-Russia policies...

The tricky parts won't just be the remediation of foreign policies, but rather to unwind attempts to rig the government in favor of Republicans. It'll likely take years, probably longer than a single term, to restore truly fair courts. And I don't think the Senate will get back to where it needs to be until the obstructionist McConnell leaves... thank goodness he's old.
 

HomerJS

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Wall is abandoned.

USA tries to get back into TTP (but probably fails to.)

Probably have to negotiate a new deal with Iran.

Damage is largely done in Syria, perhaps other carrot/stick approach to get the Kurds a semi autonomous zone within Syria.

Russia continues to be sanctioned into the dark ages. Open investigations of Russian meddling makes it hard to treat them as anything but an hostile adversary.

N. Korea no more ass kissing but in the end not much change.

Biggest change outside of that will be to restore relationships with Europe and other allies.
If Dems take the Senat and keep the House. These can all be done. With Congressional approval we can be bound to these treaties and other nations can worry less about some crackpot coming in and ED'ing their way out.

First action item when Trump is out fumigate the White House.
 

trenchfoot

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The biggest policy change we will execute is the one where Putin will not have direct influence and control of our top leadership in the White House and the Senate anymore.

Next on the list will be the strengthening of the security of our system of voting of which Trump and his Repub lackeys have been totally against (I wonder why?).

Gee I also wonder if Moscow Mitch will lose that Russian financed aluminum processing plant he finagled under the cover of Trump's close ties with Putin?
 

trenchfoot

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If Dems take the Senat and keep the House. These can all be done. With Congressional approval we can be bound to these treaties and other nations can worry less about some crackpot coming in and ED'ing their way out.

First action item when Trump is out fumigate the White House.

Not to worry, pests have a habit of following their source of food and security or scurry away out of sight and mind when their source of food and security either sinks in the ocean, is about to get involved in a nasty fiery train wreck or when the pests see the sight of rolling bus wheels about to run them over.

By the way, I've heard it said that Pelosi was seen in the White House with an interior designer measuring the windows for new drapery.
 
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War with Russia?

Nah, but you could expect much tougher resistance (which isn't difficult, since Trump will do anything to appease Russia if he thinks it'll help his businesses) and greater friction as a result. Russia plays puppeteer largely because it knows it can't really compete on economic or military strength anymore, and it isn't about to get into a war it knows it will lose. Especially not when Putin's goal is to hold on to power and wealth that he would jeopardize in a conflict.
 

cytg111

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I know "Its silly", "war with Russia" .. but say this impeachment unravels that Trump is a foreign agent, he gets impeached, goes to trial, goes to jail bla.bla.bla. What will/should be Americas response to this? Sanctions? In a geopolitical monetary environment that is moving away from America at its center? Bad Putin. Slap on wrist.
Really? What?
 

Jhhnn

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Trump policy? He has policy? We can send it down the porcelain bowl but the stink will take time to dissipate.
 

amenx

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Will be a deserved twist of fate for Trump. As he reversed Obamas ideas, policies, the same will almost certainly befall him when he leaves office. But not good for U.S. cred around the world. Countries will not trust longer term agreements with the U.S., knowing that any idiot can come along in 4 years and rip it all up. Hopefully the world will just see this as just the wild flailings of an imbecile who had no idea of what he was doing, and that future presidents will retain their predecessors work, policies if it is in the best interests of the country, rather than undo them out of spite. At least Obamas work and vision were widely admired around the world, whileTrumps will almost certainly be looked at as the ill-thought out, impulsive, whimsical acts of a fool. History will almost certainly brand him as a pathetic failure.
 

Puffnstuff

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Remember the Pied Piper? Just lead him out of the WH with a trail of .99¢ cheeseburgers. :p
 

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We'll have an enduring legacy of distrust abroad and a gaggle of ideological hacks on the federal bench to contend with for the coming decades. Trumpism and McConnellism will be with us for quite awhile.
 

Jhhnn

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We'll have an enduring legacy of distrust abroad and a gaggle of ideological hacks on the federal bench to contend with for the coming decades. Trumpism and McConnellism will be with us for quite awhile.

Sad but true.
 

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We'll have an enduring legacy of distrust abroad and a gaggle of ideological hacks on the federal bench to contend with for the coming decades. Trumpism and McConnellism will be with us for quite awhile.

Reform or be diluted down by more appointments will be the only way to motivate them otherwise.
 

JEDIYoda

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Earlier it was stated -- I assume cost effective border security would be prioritized …..
Defin3e cost effective? Also define Border security? This whole border things could be a huge albatross for the dem`s when they take office!
One of the things I am sure will happen is people will not be questioned at airports as to if they are a journalist or not....
Also I would imagime a compassionate means of dealing with the border situation will take place almost immediately!!
 

dawp

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Everything will be gone. It'll be like Trump abandoning Obama's policies. Except this time it will be because the country will benefit and not because black man bad.
most of what he implemented was by EO and can just as easily be reversed with one order apparently. very few were by new laws, any company that can't change due to rescinded trump regs will be hurting. anyone who believes those are permanent are fools.
 

Jaskalas

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Trump's domestic policy will vanish in the first month of a new President.

Foreign relations will never be the same. Never.
 
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My highly theoretical and deplorables don’t think I’m stating this as fact so calm the fuck down.
If it’s proven there was Russian collusion what happens to all the judge appointees?
Impeach them all, impeach some, let them decide, ask them all to resign?
Obviously all cannot be stooges however how do you determine which ones are?
 

dawp

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My highly theoretical and deplorables don’t think I’m stating this as fact so calm the fuck down.
If it’s proven there was Russian collusion what happens to all the judge appointees?
Impeach them all, impeach some, let them decide, ask them all to resign?
Obviously all cannot be stooges however how do you determine which ones are?
I'd figure all are suspect if it is, in fact, that trump is an illegitimate president, I'd think all should be reviewed and if proven unfit, removed.

and whether or not he is, all agencies need to be purged of all trump hires, they are proving to be detrimental to the country as a whole.