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heartsurgeon

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This article .. linky.. by Ann Coulter is a hoot!
She is the Conservative response to Al Franken....but much funnier..
This article will warm ones' cockles (if you have a sense of humor).
If not, it will give you a sense of how Liberals are perceived by Conservatives.

p.s.

i'm using my new wireless, lleather sheathed optical mouse with a leather mouse pad...ahhhh, life is good...highly recommended..
 

Red Dawn

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If not, it will give you a sense of how Liberals are perceived by Conservatives.
Yeah like all Conservatives are that stupid
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Nice:

"Democratic voters are so obedient to the media, they followed their media puppet masters and instantly switched from Dean to John Kerry."


This was my hypothesis in a recent thread where I wondered where all the "Deaniacs" went and where all these Kerry fans are coming from...funny how that works.
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Nice:

"Democratic voters are so obedient to the media, they followed their media puppet masters and instantly switched from Dean to John Kerry."


This was my hypothesis in a recent thread where I wondered where all the "Deaniacs" went and where all these Kerry fans are coming from...funny how that works.

Republican voters are so obedient to the RNC, they followed their RNC puppet masters and instantly ignored McCain to accept Dubya's pre-primary coronation.

There are sheep on the left and the right.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
This article .. linky.. by Ann Coulter is a hoot!
She is the Conservative response to Al Franken....but much funnier..
No, she isn't. She's not as funny, and she's full of lies and hatred.
This article will warm ones' cockles (if you have a sense of humor).
No, it probably won't.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
i'm using my new wireless, lleather sheathed optical mouse with a leather mouse pad...ahhhh, life is good...highly recommended..
Are you gay?

 

sMiLeYz

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Hate to break it to ya, heartsurgeon. No one takes Ann Coulter seriously, not even conservatives.
And Al Franken is a professional Comedian, Ann Coulter is a accidental comedian. Everyone laughs at Al's jokes, while everyone just laughs at Ann.
 

0roo0roo

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ann coulter doesn't have a scrap of integrity, you can't compare her to franken at all. besides to say they are both human... i sometimes even doubt that after reading one of her books. and yes, i read the enemy sometimes...

a little taste of whats wrong with ann coulter.

by Richard Roeper, Chicago Sun-Times [US]
July 22, 2002

If Ann Coulter were a singer, she'd be Ethel Merman. Even her photos are blunt and loud. In the cover shot of Coulter's book, Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right , she displays the most chilling stare this side of Honey Bunny in "Pulp Fiction."

But despite the vast, left-wing conspiracy working against her, Coulter has appeared on every show this side of "Meet the Osbournes" to plug the book. Slander is No. 1 on the Publishers Weekly list, No. 1 on the New York Times list, No. 3 on amazon.com and No. 1 in the hearts of liberal-bashing Americans from coast to coast.

Seems like a good time to point out just a few of the hateful proclamations, misleading assertions and incorrect statements in the book.

On p. 4, Coulter establishes her tone--and her propensity for twisting quotes like Twizzler sticks to suit her needs--when she writes: "The infernal flag-waving after 9/11 nearly drove liberals out of their gourds. For the left, 'flag-waving' is an epithet. Liberals variously call the flag a 'joke,' 'very, very dumb,' and--most cutting--'not cosmopolitan.' ''

The "joke" quote is attributed to director Robert Altman, who was primarily criticizing the Bush administration. Also, Altman was talking not about genuine displays of patriotism, but the commercialized omnipresence of the flag. As he later told People magazine, "I don't think [the American flag] should be on brassieres."

Hmmm. Sounds likes an opinion Coulter would applaud.

As for the "very, very dumb" remark, the article Coulter cites is a New York Times piece about a controversy in Honolulu last November when an American flag was raised atop the Iolani Palace, the 19th century seat of the Hawaiian monarchy. Reacting to the suggestion that Hawaiians aren't as patriotic as other Americans, University of Hawaii-West Oahu professor Dan Boylan said, "This is when people start acting very, very dumb in their patriotism and flag-waving. I'll take Dan Inouye's empty sleeve as patriotism long before I'll take a passing bumper sticker on my car that says, 'America Forever.' "

Boylan was referring to former U.S. Sen. Daniel K. Inouye, who lost an arm in World War II. And I don't see how you can view his statement as anything but intelligent and pro-American.

Finally there's Coulter's charge that "liberals" call the flag "not cosmopolitan." Once again she lifts a statement out of context and makes a huge generalization about millions of people: those dreaded liberals.

The source Coulter cites, yet again, is a New York Times article. (Coulter hates the New York Times, but she uses it as a research tool more often than an undergrad with a double major.) Noting that the American flag didn't have a huge presence in New York prior to 9/11, historian David Nasaw said, "New York has just been too much of a cosmopolitan town for flag-waving. It is the home of the UN, and a place filled with tourists, with immigrants, with people doing trade."

How Coulter decided that Nasaw is a "liberal" is beyond me. In any case, she either fails to understand or chooses to ignore the fact that Nasaw was using the primary definition of cosmopolitan, i.e., "belonging to all the world." He wasn't saying it was uncool to display the flag, as Coulter charges. And he was talking about New York before 9/11.

So to varying degrees, all three quotes are misrepresented by Coulter as emblematic of the vitriolic rantings of anti-American "liberals."

How utterly bogus.

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Coulter peppers her prose with terribly faulty analogies, e.g., "Hiring [George] Stephanopoulos [to do television] would be the equivalent of a major network hiring Chuck Colson immediately after Watergate."

Well, no. Chuck Colson was convicted of obstruction of justice, a felony, and served seven months in prison. Stephanopoulos' biggest crime was writing a self-aggrandizing tell-all book.

Coulter also has a habit of chastising liberals for their methodology and then using the same techniques to make her own points. She argues that it's wrong for liberals to compare Rush Limbaugh to the major news organizations because Limbaugh is "a noted polemicist" engaging in "satirical commentary," yet when Coulter needs examples to back up her claims that news organizations target conservatives, she routinely quotes columnists. Um, aren't they supposed to have opinions?

A careful analysis--hell, a casual read--of Coulter's book reveals that she often shines the spotlight on her own mistakes. On p. 51 she writes, "[F]or the media to . . . call you an 'airhead' [Katie Couric on Ronald Reagan]--well, that makes strong men tremble and weak men liberals."

Except Couric never actually called Reagan an airhead. On p. 133 of her own book, Coulter writes that what Couric said was: "The Gipper was an airhead. That's one of the new conclusions of a new biography of Ronald Reagan that's drawing a tremendous amount of interest and fire today." (The book's author, Edmund Morris, had said his first impression was that Reagan was "an apparent airhead.")

So for Coulter to write that Couric was the one labeling Reagan an airhead, would be, let's see, what's the word? Oh yeah. A lie.

More fun with Ann tomorrow.


Part 2: Coulter's 'Slander' a lazy mix of errors, invective
Posted on Sunday, July 28 @ 16:29:32 EDT by JohnBrown
Submitted by sv3n


by Richard Roeper, Chicago Sun-Times [US]
July 23rd, 2002

Part 2 of a 2 part series

In her book Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right , the hyperventilating conservative pundit Ann Coulter states that one of the "unbending rules of the universe" is that "It is horrendous to attack a woman for her looks."

Yet in the very next paragraph, Coulter writes, "A blind man in America would think the ugliest women ever . . . are Paula Jones, Linda Tripp, and Katherine Harris. This from the party of Bella Abzug."

Now that's impressive. With a two-paragraph spread, Coulter just might have set the record for hypocritical invective.

And Coulter must think Rush Limbaugh is "horrendous," seeing as how Limbaugh has mocked the looks of Hillary and Chelsea Clinton and Sally Jessy Raphael, among others.

Speaking of Limbaugh, Coulter tells her readers, "Locating some minor accuracy by Rush Limbaugh ... turned out to be more difficult than I imagined ..." and goes on to speculate about the "off chance that anyone ever ... locate some minor inaccuracy ..." in Limbaugh's work.

Minor inaccuracy? Limbaugh's committed dozens of MAJOR gaffes over the years, e.g., "It has not been proven that nicotine is addictive."

Yippee! Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

*****

An ongoing theme of Slander is that liberals never want to talk issues--that it's all about name-calling and making emotional arguments.

Ahem. From Coulter's own book:

P. 26: "The [Ku Klux] Klan sees the world in terms of race and ethnicity. So do liberals!"

P. 157: "The good part of being a Democrat is that you can commit crimes, sell out your base, bomb foreigners, and rape women, and the Democratic faithful still think you're the greatest."

p. 123: "Everyone knows it's an insult to be called a liberal, widely understood to connote a dastardly individual."

p. 181: Katie Couric is "the affable Eva Braun of morning TV."

Good thing Coulter isn't like those liberals who resort to cheap generalizations and insanely inaccurate accusations.

*****

Coulter demonstrates sloppy bias when she writes, "When ABC was considering scrapping Ted Koppel's 'Nightline' in early 2002 because of its low ratings, the most common reaction was, 'Is that still on?' "

Of course, the primary reason ABC considered dropping "Nightline" wasn't ratings--it was the chance to hire David Letterman. As for "the most common" reaction, Coulter's jibe makes her seem silly and uninformed. Yes, dear, "Nightline" is still on. Tell all your friends.

Coulter is equally disingenuous--or is it lazy?--when she reports what she perceives to be a typical example of liberal bias in the media:

"[Jesse] Jackson's son also got his own television show--while actually serving in Congress. A CBS-owned Chicago television station, WBBM-Channel 2, gave the Democratic congressman his own talk show, 'Chicago Focus With Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr.' ''

Wrong again. True, it was once announced that Jackson would be getting a weekly show on Channel 2, but the program never came close to getting on the air. It's been two years since the idea died.

And it's just plain funny when Coulter charges that "the entire information industry works overtime to suppress conservative books . . .publishers don't like conservative books, the major media ignore them, and bookstores refuse to stock them." On the very next page, Coulter cites a long list of best-selling books by conservative authors. So the "entire information industry" is suppressing books by conservative writers, yet many of these books have been top sellers. It's a miracle.

*****

In an effort to illustrate media slant, Coulter writes: "In the New York Times archives, 'moderate Republican' has been used 168 times. [But] there have been only 11 sightings of a 'liberal Republican.' "

But the American Prospect Weblog Tapped did a search of the New York Times archives and found 524 mentions of "liberal Republicans."

I guess some conservatives just aren't that good with a computer.

*****

Coulter repeatedly drags up two tired urban legends about Al Gore --the "invented the Internet" and "Love Story" tales--and passes them off as fact, even though both have been thoroughly debunked.

And she makes the claim that unlike Gore, George W. Bush was no fortunate son: "When Bush was admitted to Yale, his father was a little-known congressman ... His father was a Yale alumnus, but so were a lot of other boys' parents. It was Gore, not Bush, who had a famous father likely to impress college admissions committees."

Right. Dubya was a Phillips Academy preppie whose Yalie father was a congressman and whose Yalie grandfather was a two-term U.S. Senator. I'm sure the whole Bush clan was lighting candles every night while waiting to hear if Georgie boy was going to be admitted.

Coulter reminds me of the little girl in "Hey Arnold!" who shouts in Arnold's face that she hates him--though she secretly loves him.

Maybe that's how Ann feels about liberals. Maybe deep down, she's got a crush on us. It's kinda cute.

 

heartsurgeon

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i think Coulter is hilarious, and the stuff she writes in her column is gut-busting funny.

i've read Treason and Slander, and i felt both books were well written and interesting.

The remarks of the liberals are what i would expect you to say...

the sad part is, for all you avowed Coulter haters...I'll bet few of you actually read the link, nor Slander, nor Treason....instead you just go by the Liberal talking points...she's very bright, very insightful, and she enjoys "shocking" people with her comments, which more often than not hit pretty close to home.

i mean come on...these quotes from her column are hysterically funny:

"it appears that blanketing Iowa with self-righteous 20-year-olds in orange wool caps may not have been the ideal campaign strategy"
"Wesley Clark was viewed as the pre-eminent electable Democrat principally because he's a Republican. Howard Dean has already said he believes Clark is a fine fellow but truly a Republican. In response, Gen. Clark immediately put on a third sweater."
"Never was so much money, media, chicanery, Gwyneth Paltrow, Madonna, conniving and Cabala deployed to promote a quote-unquote "electable" Democrat."
"Kerry and Clark now represent the two major wings of the Democratic Party -- the Kennedy wing and the Clinton wing. One drowns you after the extramarital affair; the other one calls you a stalker."
"All of them are for higher pay for teachers and nurses -- and no pay at all for anyone in the pharmaceutical or oil industries, especially Halliburton executives,who should be sent to Guantanamo"
"Finally, all the candidates are willing to sell out any of these other issues in service of the secret burning desire of all Democrats: abortion on demand. If they could just figure out a way to abort babies using solar power, that's all we'd ever hear about."

Outrageous! Shocking!
pretty darn funny say I!

 

heartsurgeon

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Possibly funny if you didn't know she actually believes what she's saying.
part of it she believes, part of it is to sell books and be controversial. she's no dummy, she's out to make a buck, and if your a mild mannered conservative authoress, i'm guessing you get on tv less often and sell less books than a fire-breathing vixen. she's found a niche that seems to work for her. much of what she says it phrased to cause tumult among liberals...probably planned..she's actually a cross between al franken and james carville..think about that and you'll agree that she's basically an amalgamation of the style of those two liberals, but with a conservative viewpoint
 

Witling

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Well, to shift down to an ad hominim attack, Galt has done it again. "Democratic voters are so obedient to the media, they followed their media puppet masters and instantly switched from Dean to John Kerry."

Yeah, John, how did they do when the press said Dean didn't stand a chance. Weren't they reading then.

Time to resurrect the old "Against stupidity, the gods themselves strive in vain."
 

zzzz

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"Never was so much money, media, chicanery, Gwyneth Paltrow, Madonna, conniving and Cabala deployed to promote a quote-unquote "electable" Democrat."
did she really write that?
 

heartsurgeon

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Goebbels was hilarious, much funnier than Coulter
I'm gonna just guess that you haven't read anything that either one of them wrote.
shirt size?
XL, like all prosperous capitalists!
Doesn't vixen suggest that she's attractive?
The dictionary definition of vixen:
A female fox.
A woman regarded as quarrelsome, shrewish, or malicious.

 

Moonbeam

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Unfortuntley I also found the piece rather insightful and accurate. I also don't get the switch to Kerry. I'll probably vote for Nader. I won't vote for a rats ass because he's electable. Screw the people who voted for war.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Goebbels was hilarious, much funnier than Coulter
I'm gonna just guess that you haven't read anything that either one of them wrote.
shirt size?
XL, like all prosperous capitalists!
Doesn't vixen suggest that she's attractive?
The dictionary definition of vixen:
A female fox.
A woman regarded as quarrelsome, shrewish, or malicious.

Why should I? Coulter's remarks are too over-the-top, taken too seriously by the Right, and too vindictive to be funny.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Unfortuntley I also found the piece rather insightful and accurate. I also don't get the switch to Kerry. I'll probably vote for Nader. I won't vote for a rats ass because he's electable. Screw the people who voted for war.

Awhile back I said it would be between Kerry and Clark.. and I felt Clark could swing the few states down south that were needed to win. Like Tenn and Florida.. But, while that may be true.. I'm certain Clark is not 'Presidential' (yet). Today I'd opt for Kerry and as a mate for him I'd pick Kerrey of Nebraska.. ex Senator. Two War boys and one a MOH earner. This may have the same impact as Clark down south. And.... the added bonus of having Clinton's machine behind it.. Dr. Dean will not nor will Edwards get that. Some may not care for Clinton but, his political machine is major league IMO and the rest are minor league. Maybe some of the staff could play in the biggies but, whoever, has the leash watch on Dr. Dean needs being neutered after Iowa's fiasco.

 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Unfortuntley I also found the piece rather insightful and accurate. I also don't get the switch to Kerry. I'll probably vote for Nader. I won't vote for a rats ass because he's electable. Screw the people who voted for war.

Awhile back I said it would be between Kerry and Clark.. and I felt Clark could swing the few states down south that were needed to win. Like Tenn and Florida.. But, while that may be true.. I'm certain Clark is not 'Presidential' (yet). Today I'd opt for Kerry and as a mate for him I'd pick Kerrey of Nebraska.. ex Senator. Two War boys and one a MOH earner. This may have the same impact as Clark down south. And.... the added bonus of having Clinton's machine behind it.. Dr. Dean will not nor will Edwards get that. Some may not care for Clinton but, his political machine is major league IMO and the rest are minor league. Maybe some of the staff could play in the biggies but, whoever, has the leash watch on Dr. Dean needs being neutered after Iowa's fiasco.

 

DealMonkey

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Sadly, Coulter's schtick is so out there, so extreme, that it's quite obvious what she's trying to do. Instead of getting under my skin, she really just bores me. Droning on and on. Kind of like heart surgeon himself. Whatever, I couldn't care less. If you want to be a partisan hack so you can sell books to the losers who think they identify with your brand of hatred, more power to you.