What happened to the Lucid Hydra Fuzion board?

[thilanliyan]

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/11/04/nvidia-crushes-msis-lucid-based-board/

Wow if true...the bad PR just keeps rolling on for nV.

 

[Ika]

Warning: this is a Charlie article.

 

[Quiksilver]

Due to extreme credibility problems, Nvidia PR was not contacted for this article.

I just literally laughed out loud.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Hahahaha wow, I don't usually read his articles, but I hear a lot about them from these forums. Definitely, takes leap of faith (and logic) to a whole new level. I guess when you're aiming for semi accurate off the wall fucking loony is within the margin of error.

 

[Barfo]

There's not a single proof in that article that Nvidia killed the Hydra chip. Just because it was "delayed" and people heard Nvidia wasn't happy with it doesn't mean it somehow pulled some strings to kill it.

 

[Compddd]

F*** nvidia

 

[Xcobra]

I don't think Nvidia will be seeing my money any time soon. It's been very sad for them lately.

 

[Kakkoii]

F*** nvidia

I don't think Nvidia will be seeing my money any time soon. It's been very sad for them lately.

Yay for mindlessly believing in a piece of extremely biased blog posting?

 

[thilanliyan]

Although it is written by Charlie...the gist of the article is plausible. They've had running hardware for so long (hardware sites including AT have seen and played with the hardware I believe) and launch was confirmed to be at the end of October...now suddenly we hear nothing again. And where the heck did this Trinergy board come from?? There was never any mention of that until just before the boards were supposed to launch.

 

[Wreckage]

Yay for mindlessly believing in a piece of extremely biased blog posting?

Welcome to the video forum.

It's been mostly taken over by AMDzone.:'(

 

[zagood]

Although it is written by Charlie...the gist of the article is plausible.

Unfortunately, the domain name "semiplausible.com" was taken.

 

[thilanliyan]

Unfortunately, the domain name "semiplausible.com" was taken.

You know what I mean.

This story is obviously unconfirmed and I really hope it's not true as it seems then that nV is sabotaging innovation (imagine how good Hydra would be for us hardware enthusiasts?).

How they're able to do this is beyond me though...would Lucid even need to use nV's SLI drivers? If not they nV has no say in how 2 cards are used together do they? So maybe it is something else that's killing Hydra??

 

[BenSkywalker]

If not they nV has no say in how 2 cards are used together do they?

They have lots of IP, ATi is fully cross licensed with nV so it wouldn't effect them, Lucid most certainly is not. Not saying that nVidia is stopping them, but they almost certainly have the legal authority to do it if Lucid isn't licensing the SLI IP which everyone else who uses must pay(if nothing else, failure to enforce their IP they will then quickly lose the licensing revenue they generate from other companies such as Intel). Given, nV's ~$1 licensing fee is nothing compared to Lucid's $40-$70, but it may be a reason why they would want to stop it.

 

[Idontcare]

Although it is written by Charlie...the gist of the article is plausible. They've had running hardware for so long (hardware sites including AT have seen and played with the hardware I believe) and launch was confirmed to be at the end of October...now suddenly we hear nothing again. And where the heck did this Trinergy board come from?? There was never any mention of that until just before the boards were supposed to launch.

Thilan, the charlie story might be a little bit plausible if Lucid's hardware hadn't been total and utter vapor-ware to date including the entire lacking of leaked anything and everything.

If Lucid really had something capable of making NV quake in their boots then you can bet some hothead somewhere with the hardware already in hand would not have been able to resist the urge to brag about their hands being on said hardware and some HWBot scores or leaked benches would have shown up somewhere by now.

With Lucid being a total no-show to date I give far more credence to anyone who posits the theory that Lucid themselves are the source of the "NV is holding us back, bro!" rumors being fed to the likes of Charlie and other bloggers.

 

[dguy6789]

It's understandable to think Nvidia would try to kill the Hydra. That said, I'm going to wait until I see some proof before I believe that is what happened.

 

[thilanliyan]

With Lucid being a total no-show to date I give far more credence to anyone who posits the theory that Lucid themselves are the source of the "NV is holding us back, bro!" rumors being fed to the likes of Charlie and other bloggers.

AT and other hardware sites had access to it recently whereas when it was first shown they weren't given direct access to it.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3646
"Also unlike last year, we actually got real seat time with the Hydra 200 and MSI's Big Bang. Even better: we got to play on a GeForce GTX 260 + ATI Radeon HD 4890 running in multi-GPU mode."

 

[Creig]

With Lucid being a total no-show to date I give far more credence to anyone who posits the theory that Lucid themselves are the source of the "NV is holding us back, bro!" rumors being fed to the likes of Charlie and other bloggers.

I'm not sure calling Lucid a total no-show is completely accurate. Legit Reviews got hands-on time with an MSI Big Bang Hydra 200 equipped board running both an ATi HD 4890 and an Nvidia GTX 260 simultaneously.

The demo that we were shown behind closed doors was of course an MSI Big Bang motherboard that was running Windows 7 and ATI Radeon HD 4890 and GeForce GTX 260 graphics cards at the same time with both cards being load balanced.

Here is a closer view of the test system. Notice that the Lucid HYDRA 200 load balancing solution has no interconnects, bridges, external dongles or adapters that are needed. Both cards were running fine and we were able to change which card had the monitor output on it from the Windows 7 desktop, which was pretty slick.

Lucid gave us a chance to try out PC Game titles F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin and Bioshock to see what the future of scalable graphics looks like with the Hydra 200. We must admit that we were fairly impressed with what we saw as the technology appeared to be working without any issues on these two game titles.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1093/1/

So the hardware itself appears to be functional, at least on these two games.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Yep I don't like NV , But this makes zero sense. I don't believe NV had anything to do with it, If it was killed it would Be Intel who killed it until larrabee arrives. If NV wanted it killed and Intel didn't who has the muscle? Certainly not NV . But intel on the other time is heavely invested in Hydra. Fact is Intel may buy the company andmake this an Intel product only . Thats what I would do if it works as advertized. ATI ?NV would have nothing over intel on XF and SLI. Intel hydra has a good ring to it . I like it.

Blaming NV here is silly when its Intel that has the power. If there is guilt point fingers at Intel.

 

[sandorski]

Jesus was set to return at the Year 2000, but a reliable source says that Nvidia killed the idea.

Nvidia is the Anti-Christ!

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Welcome to the video forum.

It's been mostly taken over by AMDzone.:'(

Yes, the whole forum is out to get you, you are the only person around here that can see things neutrally, EVERYONE else is an AMD fanboy... Damn, how didnt I notice this earlier

My take on this is wait until Q1 and see if its true or not... Right now theres 50/50 of being true/false, bad idea to point fingers

 

[Nemesis 1]

Jesus was set to return at the Year 2000, but a reliable source says that Nvidia killed the idea.

Nvidia is the Anti-Christ!

You have to show me were The Word was to return in 2000. Scripture says NO one knows the time of the words return NONE. Thats why 12/23/12 is such a joke in so far as prophecy goes. NONE KNOWS

So NV not anti anything unless this article is true which is highly unlikely. If true NV would be guilty of being ANTI-Tech. Which they were with DX10 until MS took enough out to were NV could play .

How long did ATI have advantage with R510 or Xbox . ATI was allowed info that NV wasn't . So MS had to Cut DX10 apart because ATI had unfair advantage. This was made public knowledge right here way back than. By me. I may not like NV but I don't like underhanded deals either. So the DX10 thing wasn't such a big deal when ya consider the unfair advantage ATI had while working on the Xbox.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Heres how I see it . If intel wants the Hydra out . It would come out. Who sells chipsets to MSI. If MSI went against intel. Chip supplies could faulter to MSI.

It could be Hydra just not ready for prime time

 

[sandorski]

You have to show me were The Word was to return in 2000. Scripture says NO one knows the time of the words return NONE. Thats why 12/23/12 is such a joke in so far as prophecy goes. NONE KNOWS

So NV not anti anything unless this article is true which is highly unlikely. If true NV would be guilty of being ANTI-Tech. Which they were with DX10 until MS took enough out to were NV could play .

How long did ATI have advantage with R510 or Xbox . ATI was allowed info that NV wasn't . So MS had to Cut DX10 apart because ATI had unfair advantage. This was made public knowledge right here way back than. By me. I may not like NV but I don't like underhanded deals either. So the DX10 thing wasn't such a big deal when ya consider the unfair advantage ATI had while working on the Xbox.

wut?

 

[Kakkoii]

My take on this is wait until Q1 and see if its true or not... Right now theres 50/50 of being true/false, bad idea to point fingers

Just because the only options are either true or false in a situation doesn't make it 50/50.

Very good video to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5NPpoM5lIQ

 

[IcePickFreak]

I was wondering about this. I found it a bit odd how after the announcement in September that they would have a board released with Lucid Hydra within 30 days, and then there wasn't another peep about it. What their claiming is a huge step, so for no hype (the whole PC scene is built on hype) something seemed a bit off. I don't know what to think at this point. The linked article is certainly plausible, but at this point there's a lot of plausible theories that one could conclude.

This is where the second building block of the PC hardware scene comes into play... waiting.