That's half the story. The other half of the story is that the biggest, best-selling RTS games of all time came from a studio that stopped making them (Blizzard). Yes, there were some other excellent or at least okay RTS games out there . . . but Blizzard was the king.mobas took over
That isn't very nice of you.So basically the stupidity of mankind
Team matches are still pretty popular in SC2 (2v2, 3v3, 4v4). I always considered MOBAs to be far more APM-heavy because they are primarily micro focused. In SC2, if you take care of your economy, know what units counter what, and understand basic timing builds, you can hit Platinum league. IMO, APM only really becomes an issue when reaching the higher leagues of play, and by then, much of that will probably be second nature.One thing which I think hurts RTS games is the multiplayer. In shooter you can play with better players than you and have fun and sometimes get hits in even if you know they will win most of the time. In RTS, multiplayer tends to be one-on-one and tends to be an APM battle when the more skilled faster player usually trounces the weaker player. A lot of people are not attracted to the APM aspect of RTS games because this makes them just less fun to play. It isn't relaxing at all trying to play Starcraft 2 with a 4 base economy and 200 supply of units. Also, one-vs-one multiplayer modes are historically less popular because you can't blame or get carried by teammates. Look at how Starcraft 2 tried to boost online popularity with casuals by doing coop missions. Look at how MOBAs evolved the genre by making it 5v5 with lower APM ceilings and more downtime. RTS games can still exist as primarily single player games, but it takes a big AAA team to make a 30 mission campaign for a PC only game.
Depends on the FPS. I used to play a game called Dirty Bomb which had pretty intense movement mechanics that made it impossible to peg down skilled players. They would destroy newbies and get insane 20:1 k/d ratios on a regular basis. Nobody new wanted to play when they inevitably got matched against a vet (thanks to low player count).In shooter you can play with better players than you and have fun and sometimes get hits in even if you know they will win most of the time.
Oh indeed, that game was good; and feels like it's simply been forgotten over time.If you haven't played the old LOTR battle for middle earth RTS, imho it's the best ever made. Saying this and i LOVED C&C, red alert, WCII&III.
Because they require a keyboard and mouse.
-The Dawn of War series did a "great" job monetizing additional races, additional heroes in their "MOBA" wave mode, skins, etc. While Relic is/was a great developer, their biggest contribution to RTS games recently has been a solid monetization model.It's hard to monetize RTS games in the same way you can a FPS. They are seen as less profitable and therefore not worth the effort.
Perhaps you are right, but even so AAA publishers don't like taking chances. They are like Disney. If they don't think they can make all their money back within the first week or two of sales they don't risk it at all. I think that if RTS games were as ripe for monetization as you say, they would be doing it.-The Dawn of War series did a "great" job monetizing additional races, additional heroes in their "MOBA" wave mode, skins, etc. While Relic is/was a great developer, their biggest contribution to RTS games recently has been a solid monetization model.
In fact, RTS games seem like a genre built for microtransactions.
I recall this being on Steam for a long time but I never looked into it, but now I can't seem to find it anywhere and with that EA label, I'm worried it's now on Origin. Is there any place to buy this game now? Amazon has the Anthology listed for $323, but I'm sure it can be found cheaper elsewhere.If you haven't played the old LOTR battle for middle earth RTS, imho it's the best ever made. Saying this and i LOVED C&C, red alert, WCII&III.
Right, but not because of a desire to lock the game to Origin. Otherwise EA would have done that with DA:O. Battle for Middle Earth isn't even on Origin:Well it's not on Steam anymore, so I'm not sure where you were going with that.
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