What Happened to Good Mid/Hi Speed Fans?

[PliotronX]

I know for my own systems I have been sticking to the quiet fans because I never needed any more than that kind of airflow but I am helping a gentleman with a very crowded workstation featuring no less than two Quadros and an NVIDIA ION scruntched in together. The Quadro 6000 is blanking out because of overheating and we can only really stuff 80mm or maybe 92mm fans into it so begat my search for fans that I can put on a voltage fan controller (or PWM if the fans are decent enough) and dial in a happy medium of noise and airflow. My first thought was Panaflo or Yate Loon but the high speeds are nowhere to be found (Panaflo in particular!). What kind of smaller fans are you guys buying for heat problems these days?

 

[UsandThem]

I guess it depends on what cfm will actually do the job. You didn't say if the case has any intake spots, or just exhaust.

If you are using a fan controller, you could look at Delta fans or even one like the Vantec TD9238H which at full bore can move 119 cfm at 56 dBa.

On the opposite side, you have the Noctua NF-A9 PWM which at full bore moves 46 cfm at 23 dBa.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Replace the case with something bigger with more cooling/expansion options.

I know that's not an answer to the question you asked, but high powered fans are often very expensive - getting a couple of those and a decent fan controller might cost you more than a case with a bunch of 120mm fan slots.

Just a thought. I had a Vantec Tornado back in my Athlon OC days, and it was... really loud and annoying.

 

[UsandThem]

Just a thought. I had a Vantec Tornado back in my Athlon OC days, and it was... really loud and annoying.

Yes they are. I once bought a 92mm Delta fan (can't remember the model but it came from 1coolpc) in 2004, and when people describe the noise is like a vacuum cleaner, they are spot on.

 

[PliotronX]

Haaa you guys are bringing back memories of Deltas! The problem with those is that even at 7v (or even 5v if the will start!) they are still plenty loud. I'm looking for sensible fans that don't spin at super slow RPMs. My first thought was transferring the internals to a new case but this is a Dell Precision T5500 you see, Dell decided to forgo the ATX standard and so all of the mounting screws of the motherboard are out of line of ATX -- in fact it's a reversed board, more closely resembling BTX but even then it's not right. I'd love to build them a custom deal but it's a small business and the owner already pooped a brick when he saw the bill for the Quadro 6000. The T5500 has two placements that will bolt directly to the case at the rear for exhaust and we are going to have to jimmyrig the intake fans, all at 80mm. Right now the user has these ghetto USB fans leaning in those places and USB only supplying 5v at half an amp spins them at pretty sad speeds but they seem to keep the card from flipping out. I'd just like to improve upon it. Maybe I'll have to settle with slow fans but I miss the Japanese Panaflos Those were my go-to adjust-a-fans before LED BS fans took over.

update- omg! Coolerguys still has the Mechatronics! I had one of those on my Thermalright SLK800 back in the day! Hope they have four of 'em

 

[Sheep221]

If mobo is not in ATX standard than just junk the case and handmade a tray for this board to be run without case and buy a waterblock, fixed. I definitely wouldn't risk the quadro card being damaged by overheating while experimenting which fans might be better for the job.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Did you ever investigate the airflow, noise and RPM for the Noctua iPPC 3000 PWM 120mm fans?

There are still some Gentle Typhoon fans "out there," but it's hard to find another AP-30 PWM -- or even a three-pin that can be modded to take advantage of built-in PWM.

 

[JeffMD]

God...My one and only delta fan was on a heatsink with a peltier attached to it. I still have no idea why I did it and I was simply asking for my p3 to fry from condensation eventually leaking into the socket (which it did). Meanwhile I still have hearing loss from it.

Nope..slow and steady for me now. I can get all my high end gaming done with a whisper quiet system.

 

[J3S73R]

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l1/g36/Fans.html

I have ordered from them before.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8...Fan_-_252_CFM_-_Bare_Lead_PFB1212UHE-F00.html

but...

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Total Reviews: 8 Average Rating:
what it says
02-09-2015
Reviewer: mike (1)
ok so these fans are loud. and i don''t mean normal loud i mean like a 747 hitting the speed of sound loud. they will push more air than your ceiling fan and they will also be much louder. it is what it says it is loud and effective. i made a 7v modded cable and its still loud but almost tolerable. if you don''t like loud, like airplane loud, don''t buy it. If you just want something that pushes a hat right off the top of your computer, which it will do, then get it. i can not say enough how loud it is it may make your neighbors angry if you live in a apartment. it is sweet though! ( but loud)

One fan to rule them all
05-04-2012
Reviewer: Anonymous
This fan is just insane, got 4 of them now in a push an pull configuration with my Thermochill TA120.2. The radiator is mounted in a radbox along with some sound dampening material, with this setup I can have the fans on high RPM without getting a headache. My personal rating of these beasts is 10/5, buy them now!

great
05-01-2011
Reviewer: Alex (2)
These fans are great! 1. At 5volts they push as much or more air than a standard 120mm fan running at 2000 rpm and at the same or less dbs. 2. with the proper controller at 12-13 volts they are insane. they are as loud as a vacuum and will cool anything.

loud and awesome
10-24-2010
Reviewer: sndstream says yes (2)
For fun I put 8 of these wind blasters on my xtreme 480 quad rad in a push pull setup. 1 of these moves a lot of air and is loud. 8 is like having a few chainsaws ripping off in both ears! Im running an amd 965 on h20 at 1.52 vc oc''d to 4.2 with full load 48c on a foxconn destroyer prime stable for the 4 hours I ran it (could only tolerate so much, You can hear it from outside the front door). Practical maybe not, fun as hell definitely......
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here are some reviews rofl... they do have other options but go big you said no?

 

[StrangerGuy]

They got killed by larger fans that move much more air per dB/rpm, rise of heatpipes, lower power draw of components and better heatsink design all around. I personally wouldn't want any case fan that goes higher than 1500 rpm.

 

[PliotronX]

God...My one and only delta fan was on a heatsink with a peltier attached to it. I still have no idea why I did it and I was simply asking for my p3 to fry from condensation eventually leaking into the socket (which it did). Meanwhile I still have hearing loss from it.

Nope..slow and steady for me now. I can get all my high end gaming done with a whisper quiet system.

Funnily enough, I had a Diamond Monster Voodoo II that nearly fell victim to a peltier's runoff! The water had actually corroded the PCB by the time I discovered it, yet it never shorted out

I've found the fans that are going to work, they are just not the brands I'd prefer (although it looks like FrozenCPU has the H1A 92mm Pannys thanks J3S73R!). The bonus is that they are PWM and there are nice looking controllers with sliders for adjusting to the user's liking. That's the goal here, making it work with what he's got and maintaining a noise level that the Deltas probably cannot achieve.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Wey-ulll. . . . . we've had this discussion many, many times.

One of the Deltas shown by a poster is probably the model that exceeded 1A at 12V, or maybe it was 2A+. I bought one, and I consider it a mistake. I require that as many of my fans as possible be powered and controlled from the motherboard.

So for DELTA, there was this 120x38mm "Tri-Blade" that I favored. I think it would push in excess of 150CFM at top speed. And I made sure never to run it full-bore, choosing to limit it to about 500RPM lower.

There's a limit to how much more effective you can make a heatpipe cooler with more and more CFM, and if you choose the right fan to at least reach that limit, you will find that limit.

So I've become adept at building duct-boxes for high-CFM exhaust fans, like my AP-30's. Originally, the duct-boxes kept exhaust air from mixing with case-air -- that was the purpose of ducting. But then you realize you can pad a duct-box with acoustic foam-rubber, like Spire. I've used four layers of the stuff for a duct-box. It will definitely attenuate the noise from an AP-30 to a more manageable level, so if the fan became noisy at -- say -- 2,200 RPM, the acoustic duct-mod would allow you to push the RPM to maybe 3,200 for the same noise.