What Happened? P4 Overheating? Ic7-Max3

[gr1]

Just got a new system and have been running it for about a week and a half. Was very happy with the performance.

P4 2.8, Retail HS/Fan with Abit Ic7-Max3 and gig of Kingston Pc3200 HyperX

Last night all of the sudden my motherboard started beeping while I was extracting a bin file. After extracting was done, beeping stopped.

Current temperature is 109-115F or 45-50 celcius idle!! Under 100% load, it gets to about 57-69 celcius.

What happened?

Unfortunately, I never did check cpu temp prior to this.

All Bios settings are set to default.

CPU Grease has been reapplied to HS/Fan.

Any help appreciated.. thanks!

 

[gr1]

ohh.. and Case temp is 33C or 89F or so..

is that right for Antec Sonata?

 

[jhurst]

Don't double post your thread. It just clogs up the forums.

Same question here.

 

[daos]

what kind of thermal paste are you using? i dont like the sounds of hearing the word grease. grease makes me think of oil base solutions. also, what type of cooling are you using, and is this cpu overclocked?

EDIT: i see your using stock cooling. did you wipe off the old thermal pad from the retail hsf?

 

[yourdeardaniel]

check your bios for temperatures, check hsf and secure, reapply thermal paste, remove thermal pad before applying thermal paste, check if your cpu fan is running.

 

[gr1]

i didn't mean to dbl post.. was a mistake

are sonata's bad for air flow?

55C on idle!!

no overclocking, retail hs/fan!!

i have reapplied thermal paste, cpu fan is running.. what's ur idle temp yourdeardaniel?

it is a silver paste, i believe called manhattan .. again.. no cpu overclocking

 

[drewdogg808]

i don't have personal experience with sonatas, but i know they're known for being quiet....so usually quieter cases don't have as good airflow imo.

another thing is abit boards read higher than other manufacturers.
and is it getting warmer in your room b/c of summer?

 

[gr1]

it is an upstairs loft, but windows are open and temperature is actually cooler then normal

 

[Nebor]

Sonata's have poor air flow due to the front bezel and the position of the front fan (if it's being used.)

But those temps aren't anywhere near dangerous. Mine (p4 3ghz) is idling at 56.5C right now and loads at around 72C.

EDIT: Oh, I finally saw what motherboard you have. Don't worry about it man. I've checked my temps w/ a thermal probe, they read about 10-15C higher than actual. Your computer will be fine unless you notice it being unstable. THEN worry about the temps. This is a well known issue amongst Abit s478 users.

 

[GreatBarracuda]

Hey gr1, I think those temps are a bit high. I had been worried about my system's cooling for a couple months and then I decided to do something about it. And what I did was

1) Clean ALL dust from my cpu, including all heatsinks and fans. (But your computer's new and probably has little or no dust)

2) Get another 120mm case fan (vantec thermoflow <--- amazing fan!) in addition to my 120mm case fan at the back for a total of 2 case fans. (Good airflow is KEY)

3) Then I got some arctic silver 5 and applied it to my cpu AFTER cleaning the old goo off of it.

Now it works like a charm. Idle temps are CPU/MOBO 33/34 C, load CPU/MOBO 44/43 C.

P.S. Spyware can also cause erratic cpu behavior/temps. I just cleaned up a friend's system (ad-aware caught about 300! and spy-bot search and destroy caught 15). His idle temps were close to 65 C!!! Now they are much better although still not ideal. Maybe a clean format would do the trick.

 

[gr1]

thank you greatbarracuda for the tips

- you are correct, no dust

- i will have to add another fan and get some arctic silver 5

- spyware is non-existent

but I am worried about the temps, because performance seems to be lacking a bit

 

[GreatBarracuda]

No prob! Another thing, try getting another program to monitor cpu/motherboard temperature. It probably wouldn't show anything different (the motherboard sensors are the same), but still give it a try.

And yes, the performance will suffer with such high temps as 65+. And if you do want to add another case fan, I highly recommend the Vantec Thermoflow (they come in all sizes). These have a thermally-controlled sensor on them which varies the rpm according to the temperature (do I sound like a salesman ) Anyway, hope you get it all sorted out. I have a thing with high case-temps

 

[Ackmed]

I wouldnt worry, its well known that Abit boards read temps high. Its reading about 10c higher than what it really is.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
No prob! Another thing, try getting another program to monitor cpu/motherboard temperature. It probably wouldn't show anything different (the motherboard sensors are the same), but still give it a try.

And yes, the performance will suffer with such high temps as 65+. And if you do want to add another case fan, I highly recommend the Vantec Thermoflow (they come in all sizes). These have a thermally-controlled sensor on them which varies the rpm according to the temperature (do I sound like a salesman ) Anyway, hope you get it all sorted out. I have a thing with high case-temps

We have the blind leading the blind here. Until your chip begins to throttle, it won't effect performance. You can set your throttle temp in the BIOS, but I believe it's stock at 75 or 80C. A lot of people with Abit boards disable throttling altogether because your chip isn't getting as hot as the motherboard thinks it is. Abit has admitted that the calculation used to derive the temperatures is innaccurate.

Don't worry about your temps unless your machine is crashing\rebooting.

 

[jhurst]

Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
No prob! Another thing, try getting another program to monitor cpu/motherboard temperature. It probably wouldn't show anything different (the motherboard sensors are the same), but still give it a try.

And yes, the performance will suffer with such high temps as 65+. And if you do want to add another case fan, I highly recommend the Vantec Thermoflow (they come in all sizes). These have a thermally-controlled sensor on them which varies the rpm according to the temperature (do I sound like a salesman ) Anyway, hope you get it all sorted out. I have a thing with high case-temps

Performance will not suffer @ 65C. They have done reviews on whether temperature affects performance, and have shown that P4's do not start lacking in performance until around 75C actual. Then the CPU starts doing the clock throttle cool-down thing. 65C minus 10-15C for overtemping = temps will not affect performance

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: jhurst

Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
No prob! Another thing, try getting another program to monitor cpu/motherboard temperature. It probably wouldn't show anything different (the motherboard sensors are the same), but still give it a try.

And yes, the performance will suffer with such high temps as 65+. And if you do want to add another case fan, I highly recommend the Vantec Thermoflow (they come in all sizes). These have a thermally-controlled sensor on them which varies the rpm according to the temperature (do I sound like a salesman ) Anyway, hope you get it all sorted out. I have a thing with high case-temps

Performance will not suffer @ 65C. They have done reviews on whether temperature affects performance, and have shown that P4's do not start lacking in performance until around 75C actual. Then the CPU starts doing the clock throttle cool-down thing. 65C minus 10-15C for overtemping = temps will not affect performance

A lot of us abit board users disable thermal throttling and shutdown. THe board reading too high can mess things up for you.