Seems as if AMD and Intel have hit a wall, the dual cores are just a stall tactic to still make money, when is the real new technology due out?
What happend to the Pentium 5?
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Conroe? Is that the next installment of feature creep? If not enlighten me before I look into it if you feel like.
Ok, ok, conroe is more like 2 steps backwards, to make 1 step forward, as far as architechure is concerned.... Intel reverting back to PIII, and adding feature sets to it...
Remember the huge performance increase from say a Pentium 3 to a Pentium 4?
Seems to be many exceptions to Moore's Law as of late. Even the video card companies are stalling with this SLI crap, sure there is a performance increase but I for one don't want to have two obsolete video cards in a year or two.
Seems to be many exceptions to Moore's Law as of late. Even the video card companies are stalling with this SLI crap, sure there is a performance increase but I for one don't want to have two obsolete video cards in a year or two.
Yeah, i made a thread a few weeks ago, about the fact that everything seems to be doubling... dual processors, video cards, Raid, memory with dual channel... ... one MB manufacturer is going to make a mainstream(non-server) MB to take 2 power supplies now... at this rate I'll need 2x everything except a CPU case...
Actually the Conroe is a souped up P3... After P4 came out, P3 kept going as well. P3 continued on the desktop briefly, and then to mobile processors, and finally Dothan, and now the Conroe... So, its made full cycle, and back to the desktop... P4 was essentially a flop...
I had a 1.266gz Tualatin a couple years ago. actually 3 systems... they were good... The 1.4Ghz Athlon XP's did not play well with VIA chipsets.
Screw you!
Seriously, Pentium M was like 2 steps backwards to make 1 step foward.
Conroe is like 1 step backwards to take 3 steps foward. It has everything good about the Pentium 4 and Pentium M, minus the raw clock speed of the Pentium 4 (which isn't a big deal anyway), plus a whole slew of other new things that truly make it a next gen architecture, the first of which since the launch of the Pentium 4 back in....1999?
Early pentium 4s performed worse than the best Pentium 3s at the time.
You could call the P4 a souped up P3 too...I'd say P4 has more in common with the P3 architecture than Conroe does.
The P4 diverged off on to its own branch from the P3 when it was introduced.... The P3 continued to evolve, into the the eventual Conroe... yeah the P4 may be closer to the P3, but only because it didn't evolve as much.... P4 was the mainstream CPU, and it had many problems... The P3 continued to evolve as well, and the Conroe is born... And yes the P3 to Conroe evolution has made more dramatic updates than the P4 has made over all of these years...
And so is Conroe, the Pentium 4's execution core is much closer to the P3's, and much of the P4 is just a logical extension of what Intel had done with its P6 cores up that point.
Anyhow, based on how little change there was going from the Pentium Pro to the Pentium 3, I'd say Prescott was the Pentium 5 (which is redundant anyhow), but didn't get the name because it failed to really improve on northwood, even though it was significantly changed.
Dothan could have been considered a P4 as well, as it was still more of a departure from the Pentium 3 than the P3 was from the PPro. Conroe is basically the P6, and it's a disservice to intel's engineers to call it a revamped P3 and act as if the P4 was something different and original.
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Calling Intel's Core architecture a "souped up P3" is misleading and seeing it posted by people everywhere kills me. It's similar to saying the Athlon 64 is basically a "souped up DEC Alpha." Try reading up on it, a good article is over on Arstechnica:
http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/core.ars
The netburst architecture is about as close to a P3 as a tricycle is to a porche, I mean they both have wheels, so they must be similar. Dothan isn't remotely similar to the netburst architecture. Netburst was developed around long pipelines to achieve high clock speeds. Pentium-m was developed with low power and efficency in mind but lagged behind in performance in a lot of areas. Conroe is developed to be the best of both worlds, fast and powerful, yet still efficient and cool running.
At its heart, the P4 is a P3 made to run at high clock speeds.
Conroe has all the general improvements of a P4 (minus the long pipeline), improvements of its own, and a whole new execution core that if you say is related to the P3 then the Athlon is basically a K6.
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