What Game Console to Buy today?

freemanteo

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I just got a PS2 but am wondering if its a waste of money for old system. I mean i considered PS2 cos Sony supported the PS for 8yrs now, so i may get the same support for my PS2. And PS2 games are cheaper, alot more of my kind of games(RPG,Adventure).

But then i'm afraid PS2 may die after PS3 comes out in 2004. And to think Xbox has superior graphics and same retail price as PS2 but the games are $50 EACH!!

I need opinions on whether which system is the best bet on my buck! Thnks.!

And one more thing, i'm wondering what kind/brand of PS2 DVD remote to get, there is so many out there... Can anyone tell me which has all the features and good compared to the PS2 brand remote.
 

Scarpozzi

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Just find something you like and stick with it. I'm happy with my PS1, but I ordered a dreamcast only because the system itself was cheaper than a lot of the Xbox games and the gameplay is considered almost as good. To be honest, I've seen this happen once or twice since home consoles are popular... They'll come out with something new every 2-3 years and it's too expensive to try to keep up. Find some games you like and be happy with them....when you get tired of em, give them to poor ppl who can't afford video games. :)
 

Herbman

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I like Nintendo. I have bought every console put out by the company.

I also have 3 kids so its all about what type of games your looking for.

Gamecube would be my pick for now.
 

monk3y

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I'm with Alienwho, don't do ANYTHING to your PS2 till you've played GTA3. It's just an AMAZING game. Metal Gear Solid 2 is really good too.
 

dionx

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2 different PS2 DVD remotes i recommend.

the offial sony dvd remote as seen here which comes with a ton of features but does NOT include a controller pass-through meaning in order to use it, you must first unplug one of your controllers.

the 2nd remote i recommend is the Pelican Accessories remote as seen here. this does come with a controller passthrough so that you can have the dvd remote working at all times including leaving both controllers hooked up to your PS2. this is the remote i bought because of convenience. the sony official remote is the one to buy for extra features.
 

freemanteo

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<< 2 different PS2 DVD remotes i recommend.

the offial sony dvd remote as seen here which comes with a ton of features but does NOT include a controller pass-through meaning in order to use it, you must first unplug one of your controllers.

the 2nd remote i recommend is the Pelican Accessories remote as seen here. this does come with a controller passthrough so that you can have the dvd remote working at all times including leaving both controllers hooked up to your PS2. this is the remote i bought because of convenience. the sony official remote is the one to buy for extra features.
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thnks for the advice, but is it necessary for the extra features?
 

Presence

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Well if you have any friends at all get Gamecube and Super Smash bros and Super Monkey Ball. Those games rock...

If you are a loser and have no friends get xbox and Halo.
 

DomZ

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Bah, except for dreamcast which I consider is the best for your money(inexpensive, good games, nice graphics in some games), save your money and buy yourself a new computer.
 

Mo0o

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HAHA, i live in washington. the microsoft store sells the games for 18 bucks lol
 

gltyrian

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i'd totally get an xbox.. since its so pc-based and uses regular ole dvd roms... and with the advent of dvd-r's coming around the corner (ahhh..i remember the day i spent 500 bucks on my ole smart n friendly 4x cdr...) we can all wink wink to that...

ps2 is cool too, but i heard of somoe bugs w/ certain dvds and older ps games and the xbox will prolly end up to be more popular in the long run cuz its so easy to program and make games for... i heard the ps2 is really hard to code for

gamecube...it looks cool and all.. but propierty 3 inch dvds? hard to wink wink on that

siao
 

gltyrian

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actually, in addenum...

the dreamcast totally rocks... 50 dollar console?? only thing i can remember like that was when the nes was down to 50 after i got my new snes... dc still rocks and if u love rpg games they got a lotta good rpg games... granadia 2, skies of arcadia, shenmue 1 and 2... they got a lotta good games still... the nba/nfl/whatever leage 2k2 games are awesome... etc etc

this place

gets u really good deals for dc games too...so all to the value!

siao
 

LiQiCE

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dionx,

I own the Pelican DVD remote (it came with my Buy.com package) and its horrible ... I don't like it at all. The range on the Ir port for the Pelican remote doesn't work at all and overall it has a very cheap feel to it. I would recommend the Sony remote over the Pelican remote anyday.

And btw Presence, to fully enjoy Halo you need to have a LAN party which requires you to have friends. Calling X-Box fans losers isn't exactly contructive to helping anyone make a decision on a console purchase.

Without getting into a console war here, I personally own both a PS2 and an X-Box and I fully enjoy both. I've been playing my X-Box more than my PS2 lately, and Halo has given me countless hours of fun. But I've totally enjoyed lots of great PS2 titles as well. I've tried a GameCube (Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Leader, Tony Hawk 3, and Super Monkey Ball), and honestly right now I don't like any of the games I tried or the controller (it feels too small in my hands). But thats my opinion, and I know GameCube has won the hearts of a lot of people.

For you to make a good decision on which game console to buy, you really need to try all three for yourself. Try the X-Box controller out, because a lot of people just simply hate it. Some people don't like GameCube's controller either ... So its a toss up that ends with your personal preference.

I will tell you that so far, the best looking X-Box games look better than the best looking PS2 games. X-Box's Dolby Digital 5.1 support is very nice, and the hard drive feature so you don't need a memory card is extremely nice. The feature set of the X-Box makes it a "better value" than the PS2, but better values don't mean jack if there arent games to support it. You really need to look at the games out there right now, and what games are coming out for a given system and see what fits your needs. If its Mario and Resident Evil, then go GameCube. If its Gran Turismo and MGS2 then go PS2. If its Halo and Unreal Championship, then go X-Box.

Hope this helps you out some :)

By the way: X-BOX FOR $245.00 from KBToys! CLICK HERE!
 

Antisocial Virge

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<< i'd totally get an xbox.. since its so pc-based and uses regular ole dvd roms... and with the advent of dvd-r's coming around the corner (ahhh..i remember the day i spent 500 bucks on my ole smart n friendly 4x cdr...) we can all wink wink to that... >>



Good luck burning a dual-layered dvd to a dvd-r....





<< but propierty 3 inch dvds >>



They already make 3" dvd-r TA-DA!
 

freemanteo

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yeah i know about how powerful Xbox is but will it last? I'm looking for the long term, and cost effectiveness too! I mean i cannot afford $50 games! Just to own 10 games i have to folk $500+tax!!

You still need a memory card for Xbox, right? So what is the 10gb HD for? MP3s? :)

Maybe i'll just buy an Xbox and return it 30days later and see if i like it! :D
 

tigerbait

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<< You still need a memory card for Xbox, right? >>



no you don't need it... the games save to the HD

but you can use a memory card to bring saved games to other consoles.
 

ace31216

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Long term... Go with the X-box. No need for the memory card considering that it comes with the harddrive built in already. The library of games is quite limited and I don't really see any mega hits in the coming months. However, this system is so powerful and it has so much funding (from big bad Microsoft) that it will probably get though the usual slow first generation of games and get to the good stuff. I truly believe that this system will be the best console out there by the end of next year due to it's tremendous hardware, program friendliness and online capablities.

Short term, I say go with the PS2. It has the best games right now with Devil Man Cry, Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear 2, Gran Turismo 2, ect... At the same time, Final Fantasy XI online will soon be here and it is going to be awesome.
However, farther down the line, the lack of a harddrive and network card will really hurt this sony system. Buying it as an add on will be costly and will be unacceptable. It won't be worth it. This is where the x-box will make it's move and take over.
 

PsychoAndy

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<< HAHA, i live in washington. the microsoft store sells the games for 18 bucks lol >>



Bullsh*t. If xbox games were that cheap, they would be consistently sold out, on the hot deals forum, and people would be swarming it's doors from all over the damn place.

Now if they were black market or hot, i could believe that.
 

MrHappyMonkey

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You can pickup a preowned PS2 for only $220 from EBWorld.com. Check out this thread for the details. I just jumped on this deal. You also get 15% off all preowned PS2 games. In total I picked up the following for the price that you would normaly pay for JUST the PS2:

$34.99 (before discount) Preowned - Gran Turismo 3 A-spec
$249.99 (before discount) Preowned - Refurbished PlayStation 2
$44.99 (before discount) Preowned - SSX Tricky
$44.99 (before discount) Preowned - Burnout
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Subtotal: $374.96

Total Discount: -$56.24
Shipping (next day air):$12.99
Tax:$0.00
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Total:$331.71
 
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Alright, look:
I've spent a lot of time researching and arguing with people over the various consoles, and you know what? It really DOESN'T MATTER. Everyone is always going to have their own opinion, you can RARELY change it, and the arguments just go back and forth, back and forth. It's stupid. You said you want RPGs, I say you're right on to go with the PS2. The way it's looking right now, is GameCube is going to be another "party system" (i.e. N64 - Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Goldeneye), PS2 is the RPG/adventure system, and X-Box is Microsoft's jacked up wang on a stick. Someone said the X-Box games look better than the best looking PS2 games? Get your prescription checked, buddy. Go compare the anti-aliasing in FFX's cinematics to those in Halo (which is, BTW, the *only* good game out for PS2 - imho, of course, I know everyone else may be jumping for joy over wastes of money time and natural resources like THPS3). FFX wins. BTW, Halo is nowhere near as good as it was going to be for PC-and rumour says they're making a PC version of it anyway, which is almost guaranteed to be better. RPG-wise, GameCube will have nothing; no way would Squaresoft (or Enix, or other RPG makers) move to a platform that gives them LESS room per disc. They may not be using a complete DVD right now, but believe you me - compare, say, Beyond the Beyond (one of, if not the, first RPG for PSX) to Final Fantasies 8 and 9. The graphical change is IMMENSE. One of the reasons I chose PS2 is because I'm expecting this sort of full utilisation of the potential of the console. Now, looking at FFX and trying to put that in the place of Beyond the Beyond or even FFVII...The implications are mind-boggling. GameCube is like the new DreamCast, in a way; great, fast engines, smooth but on the whole cartooney graphics (see new Zelda (hint: puke, reason #1 I didn't buy GameCube - Zelda 64 was reason #1 I got N64), although Rogue Leader and Resident Evil do show some nice realism) and not too many great games (so far: Rogue Leader (possibly...), the Resident Evils (mostly rehashes anyway), and...oh wait, that's it). The Resident Evil remakes and the new 1 or 2 are excellent but frankly I don't find they have a lot of replay value and thus I'm going to rent them and a GC rather than use them to justify buying one. I'd rather finish building my computer, thanks. X-Box so far has had NO game made for it that Microsoft didn't either outright buy/absorb a company for the explicity purpose of making it, or pay the company an exorbitant amount of money to make them switch over consoles (see Oddworld). That's NOT what I would call developer support. And we all know developer support is key; Windows has all the developer support and Macintosh has very very little, this is why something like 90% of people use Windows as their primary operating system. It's also a self-perpetuating cycle. Now, down to the hardware, yes X-box's hardware is better than that of the PS2, but it also has no active cooling for that 733 Mhz Intel chip and the Nvidia Nforce! The overheating implications are staggering. PS2, on the other hand, has a fan which really isn't that loud and does keep it nice and cool. Not having owned a PSX, I found the backwards-compatibility a majorly attractive buying point, and I would imagine (and hope) that Sony continues this trend with the PS3. As for bugs with DVDs, I did hear rumours about that recently, but my PS2 is currently my primary DVD player, since we haven't bought a standalone yet, and I've never had any kind of problem with it. You mentioned DVD-Rs with X-box, well whoopee. They both have copyright protection, you'd have to get a modchip for either of them, and in any case that's illegal so of course none of us would ever imagine doing anything like that, right?

So to reiterate the major point: No one will ever settle the console wars.
If you want RPGs and action/adventure like Agent Under Fire or Metal Gear Solid or Grand Theft Auto 3, go with PS2. I'm not sure since I detest sports games but I believe PS2 is also currently the best for those.
If you want a party system so you and your buddies can play Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and various other inane wastes of time, go with GameCube. Personally I believe that consoles are for single-player game excellence, and PCs for multiplayer. There is some ground for leniency; FFXI (the multi-console online universe, akin to EverQuest) may work out very well, and I'm not sure how Deus Ex would be on a console, but for the most part, that's my philosophy.
Finally, if you want to be a Microsoft whore and go with the most powerful system (yes, I will admit that it's the most powerful system, but do you buy a console for the console or for the games? Think about that for a minute. The dual-800 MHz G4s are much more powerful than, say a 1 Ghz or even a 1.5 Ghz Pentium 4, but you can't play jack on the G4. So which are you going to get?) then get X-Box. But you better keep a fire extinguisher handy.

-Forsaken
 

TimidOCer

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<< Alright, look:
I've spent a lot of time researching and arguing with people over the various consoles, and you know what? It really DOESN'T MATTER. Everyone is always going to have their own opinion, you can RARELY change it, and the arguments just go back and forth, back and forth. It's stupid. You said you want RPGs, I say you're right on to go with the PS2. The way it's looking right now, is GameCube is going to be another "party system" (i.e. N64 - Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Goldeneye), PS2 is the RPG/adventure system, and X-Box is Microsoft's jacked up wang on a stick. Someone said the X-Box games look better than the best looking PS2 games? Get your prescription checked, buddy. Go compare the anti-aliasing in FFX's cinematics to those in Halo (which is, BTW, the *only* good game out for PS2 - imho, of course, I know everyone else may be jumping for joy over wastes of money time and natural resources like THPS3). FFX wins. BTW, Halo is nowhere near as good as it was going to be for PC-and rumour says they're making a PC version of it anyway, which is almost guaranteed to be better. RPG-wise, GameCube will have nothing; no way would Squaresoft (or Enix, or other RPG makers) move to a platform that gives them LESS room per disc. They may not be using a complete DVD right now, but believe you me - compare, say, Beyond the Beyond (one of, if not the, first RPG for PSX) to Final Fantasies 8 and 9. The graphical change is IMMENSE. One of the reasons I chose PS2 is because I'm expecting this sort of full utilisation of the potential of the console. Now, looking at FFX and trying to put that in the place of Beyond the Beyond or even FFVII...The implications are mind-boggling. GameCube is like the new DreamCast, in a way; great, fast engines, smooth but on the whole cartooney graphics (see new Zelda (hint: puke, reason #1 I didn't buy GameCube - Zelda 64 was reason #1 I got N64), although Rogue Leader and Resident Evil do show some nice realism) and not too many great games (so far: Rogue Leader (possibly...), the Resident Evils (mostly rehashes anyway), and...oh wait, that's it). The Resident Evil remakes and the new 1 or 2 are excellent but frankly I don't find they have a lot of replay value and thus I'm going to rent them and a GC rather than use them to justify buying one. I'd rather finish building my computer, thanks. X-Box so far has had NO game made for it that Microsoft didn't either outright buy/absorb a company for the explicity purpose of making it, or pay the company an exorbitant amount of money to make them switch over consoles (see Oddworld). That's NOT what I would call developer support. And we all know developer support is key; Windows has all the developer support and Macintosh has very very little, this is why something like 90% of people use Windows as their primary operating system. It's also a self-perpetuating cycle. Now, down to the hardware, yes X-box's hardware is better than that of the PS2, but it also has no active cooling for that 733 Mhz Intel chip and the Nvidia Nforce! The overheating implications are staggering. PS2, on the other hand, has a fan which really isn't that loud and does keep it nice and cool. Not having owned a PSX, I found the backwards-compatibility a majorly attractive buying point, and I would imagine (and hope) that Sony continues this trend with the PS3. As for bugs with DVDs, I did hear rumours about that recently, but my PS2 is currently my primary DVD player, since we haven't bought a standalone yet, and I've never had any kind of problem with it. You mentioned DVD-Rs with X-box, well whoopee. They both have copyright protection, you'd have to get a modchip for either of them, and in any case that's illegal so of course none of us would ever imagine doing anything like that, right?

So to reiterate the major point: No one will ever settle the console wars.
If you want RPGs and action/adventure like Agent Under Fire or Metal Gear Solid or Grand Theft Auto 3, go with PS2. I'm not sure since I detest sports games but I believe PS2 is also currently the best for those.
If you want a party system so you and your buddies can play Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and various other inane wastes of time, go with GameCube. Personally I believe that consoles are for single-player game excellence, and PCs for multiplayer. There is some ground for leniency; FFXI (the multi-console online universe, akin to EverQuest) may work out very well, and I'm not sure how Deus Ex would be on a console, but for the most part, that's my philosophy.
Finally, if you want to be a Microsoft whore and go with the most powerful system (yes, I will admit that it's the most powerful system, but do you buy a console for the console or for the games? Think about that for a minute. The dual-800 MHz G4s are much more powerful than, say a 1 Ghz or even a 1.5 Ghz Pentium 4, but you can't play jack on the G4. So which are you going to get?) then get X-Box. But you better keep a fire extinguisher handy.

-Forsaken
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You sir are an idiot.

Thank You , good day.
 

TimidOCer

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<< Long term... Go with the X-box. No need for the memory card considering that it comes with the harddrive built in already. The library of games is quite limited and I don't really see any mega hits in the coming months. However, this system is so powerful and it has so much funding (from big bad Microsoft) that it will probably get though the usual slow first generation of games and get to the good stuff. I truly believe that this system will be the best console out there by the end of next year due to it's tremendous hardware, program friendliness and online capablities.

Short term, I say go with the PS2. It has the best games right now with Devil Man Cry, Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear 2, Gran Turismo 2, ect... At the same time, Final Fantasy XI online will soon be here and it is going to be awesome.
However, farther down the line, the lack of a harddrive and network card will really hurt this sony system. Buying it as an add on will be costly and will be unacceptable. It won't be worth it. This is where the x-box will make it's move and take over.
>>



Actually.... gamecube has the limited game selection. Xbox has almost 40 now