What forms do Intel Cpus come in?

[Shaftatplanetquake]

Nowadays, don't the celerons come in sockets?

I have a celeron that goes into a slot.

What about P3s, do they come in sockets or slots, or both?

And the infamous slocket- is it used to make a celeron run in a p3 board, or is it used to make a p3 run in a celeron board?

AMD man needs answers people !

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[compuwiz1]

Intel PIIIs come in both Socket and Slot1 versions, where Celerons are only available in Socket.
A slotket adapter can be used with a PIII, but it must be FC-PGA (coppermine) compatible.

 

[Shaftatplanetquake]

I have a 400 Mhz celeron in slot form.

Which is preferable for a P3, socket, or slot?

Does one have larger cache like the socket/slot Athlon cpus?

 

[GaryTcs]

The socket based pentium 3's are the ones to get. It used to be that they had a faster cache, but i'm no sure if that's still true.

But if you can use your current motherboard, and a slot 1 is cheaper, then that may be better for you. After all your next processor probably wont be either slot1 or socket 370.

 

[techwanabe]

There was already a detailed discussion of the flavors of Pentium IIIs starting with the 500 mhz. I'm not sure what the best keyword would be to search under.

Anyway, IIRC, they are all flip chips now so it doesn't matter if you use slot one or socket 370. Early on, the slot one were all Katmai and didn't cool as well. They were 512k L2 cache too. I think most all are now L1 256k cache (on die) and are "core up" for best cooling. At the start of the FC-PGA, only the socket 370 (FC-PGA) were flip chips, so you had to buy FC-PGA and avoid SECC slot one - that isn't the case anymore.

The FCPGA (socket 370) format was started because they were less expensive to manufacture, but since slot one motherboards were so prevelant, Intel decided to keep the slot one version alive improve them with SECC2 (flip chip) with the newer faster P3s. There is no particular advantage nowadays to either slot one or socket 370. IIRC, they are all flip chip coppermines and even the cache may be standardized to 256k L1 on all of them.

"your next processor probably wont be either slot1 or socket 370."

I doubt that... From the sounds of things, the P4 isn't going to sell like hot cakes for a while. I think slot 1 and socket 370 will be with us for another year, maybe longer, that is unless you want to go out and lay down big bucks for some kind of hollow bragging rights. The Athlon and P3 based computers will be the best value/performers for a while longer over P4 or something else.

Get whatever CPU fits your needs. If you have a slot 1, go with that or visa versa. BTW, if you want to overclock, stay away from the B variety of Pentiums made for the 133 FSB. There isn't much head room for OCing. Get the 100 mhz FSB versions for sure.

 

[Shaftatplanetquake]

What does IIRC mean?

And flip chip, that means it can either be used in a socket 370 or slot 1 board, correct?

Like its got PGA(pin grid array) and SEC(single edge connector)?

Please don't bust out with all kinds of acronyms without definitions. I know a good bit on thundebrird/duron cpus, and a good bit of all the pentium level and below. But pentium2s, celerons, and pentium 3s have some stuff to them that I don't know about. I still don't know how my celeron 400 is running... It is slot 1.. I've been told that they did make, and I've been told they didn't make, slot 1 celerons.

Is there anyone that can help me understand the whole deal? Like ppga, what the hell does that mean? And FC- PGA I guess means flip chip pga.

Whats the difference between coppermine, Xeon, I guess I have an explanation for Katmai, but was the Katmai Socket or Slot? What is a slocket used, to attach an pentium 3 cpu to a celeron board or to attach a celeron to a pentium 3 board?

Answers would be appreciated.

 

[Shaftatplanetquake]

answers anyone please?