What exactly is objectionable about Ms Clinton?

Siddhartha

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On this forum, I have read Ms Clinton basically described as being the anti-christ to being the path to the end of Western Civilization as we know it, "communist cvnt", etc

Please enlighten me* and list what exactly is wrong with her. I make this request so that I can make an educated decision if she is the nominee next November.

TIA
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha

*Please breakdown your rational as if you were talking to a five year old.

TIA
Man you are asking for it with that statement:laugh:
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Siddhartha

*Please breakdown your rational as if you were talking to a five year old.

TIA
Man you are asking for it with that statement:laugh:

I know. But I am trying to get people to get beyond "just look at her" type statements


 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
On this forum, I have read Ms Clinton basically described as being the anti-christ to being the path to the end of Western Civilization as we know it, "communist cvnt", etc

Please enlighten me* and list what exactly is wrong with her. I make this request so that I can make an educated decision if she is the nominee next November.

*Please breakdown your rational as if you were talking to a five year old.

TIA

soooo.....you are asking an internet forum to offer opinions on why they think a canidate should or should not be a person you should vote for and that will guide your decision rather than doing the research of both sides yourself?


here is a clue...if you want some unbiased information...check her voting record...that should tell you all you need to know and that should be the overall factor in your decision.....now what other people tell you.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
On this forum, I have read Ms Clinton basically described as being the anti-christ to being the path to the end of Western Civilization as we know it, "communist cvnt", etc

Please enlighten me* and list what exactly is wrong with her. I make this request so that I can make an educated decision if she is the nominee next November.

*Please breakdown your rational as if you were talking to a five year old.

TIA

soooo.....you are asking an internet forum to offer opinions on why they think a canidate should or should not be a person you should vote for and that will guide your decision rather than doing the research of both sides yourself?


here is a clue...if you want some unbiased information...check her voting record...that should tell you all you need to know and that should be the overall guiding factor in your decision.....now what other people tell you.

I am trying to understand the hate expressed I have read towards Ms Clinton.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I am trying to understand the hate expressed I have read towards Ms Clinton.

Look up Communist, then you'll begin to understand.

 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I am trying to understand the hate expressed I have read towards Ms Clinton.

Look up Communist, then you'll begin to understand.

com?mu?nist \"kam-ye-nist\ noun (1840)
1 : an adherent or advocate of communism
2 cap : communard
3 a cap : a member of a Communist party or movement
b often cap : an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement
4 often cap : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities
communist adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?tic \'kam-ye-"nis-tik\ adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?ti?cal?ly \-ti-k(e-)le\ adverb

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.

com?mu?nist \"kam-ye-nist\ noun (1840)
1 : an adherent or advocate of communism
2 cap : communard
3 a cap : a member of a Communist party or movement
b often cap : an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement
4 often cap : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities
communist adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?tic \'kam-ye-"nis-tik\ adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?ti?cal?ly \-ti-k(e-)le\ adverb

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Communist noun
a member of the Russian Communist party <restructuring of Russia by the Communists>
syn Bolshevik, ||Bolshie, commie, comrade, Red
rel fellow traveler, pink, pinko; Leninist, Marxist, Stalinist, Trotskyist; apparatchik

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.

com?mu?nism \"kam-ye-'ni-zem\ noun [F communisme, fr. commun common] (1840)
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 cap
a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.

These definitions do not describe Ms Clinton anymore than the describe Mr Bush.

 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
On this forum, I have read Ms Clinton basically described as being the anti-christ to being the path to the end of Western Civilization as we know it, "communist cvnt", etc

Please enlighten me* and list what exactly is wrong with her. I make this request so that I can make an educated decision if she is the nominee next November.

TIA

I am glad that this is the question we are asking of our potential Presidents, rather than "Out of the hundreds of million people in this country, what is uniquely exceptional about her that makes her the absolute best-suited person to lead our country."

But I guess "not objectionable" is good enough...

As for where I'd start, research what legislation she has authored that's passed through the senate.
 

CaptnKirk

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There is a huge consortium of insecure cowards, and right wing extremist water carriers that fear the presence of a strong female personality.

Evolution in the sense of the animal world, the strongest surviving linage is always derived from the maternaly dominant species.


Come to think about it, what is being offered to counter the politics of Hillary Clinton, other than fear, fear, and more fear?


Ohhh, scary, fear the fear.

 

Moonbeam

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I don't like her because she is a corporate fascist who will govern far to far to the right and continue to lead us down a path to destruction.
 

brxndxn

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She is for socialized medicine, amnesty for illegals, for the war in Iraq, for the future attacking of Iran, riddled with a past of scandals, and for increasing the insane amount of government debt.
 

boomerang

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For me, it's not so much Hillary as it is the Clinton's.

These two are pathological liars. They will say ANYTHING they feel the majority of their electorate want to hear. Whether those beliefs or principles are shared by them, makes no difference. Tell them what they want to hear, and do whatever the hell you want to do. Including murder if they feel it's needed.

Bill right now has tried to make it look like he was not in support of this godforsaken war we're in. Why? Because Clinton & company have sensed that the American people want out of there. Hillary skirts around the issue when her voting record comes up. Tell them what they want to hear. No scruples amongst those two.

These two are evil people to my way of thinking. And don't think you'd just be electing her, they're a package deal.

Linky
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
On this forum, I have read Ms Clinton basically described as being the anti-christ to being the path to the end of Western Civilization as we know it, "communist cvnt", etc

That would fit anyone who professes ideals straight out of the communist manifesto. So, in other words, we?ll say that of anyone running on the Democrat's ticket. Democrats will say that of anyone running on the Republican ticket.

Hating ones opponent is really nothing new in the world of politics, sad as it may be.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I am trying to understand the hate expressed I have read towards Ms Clinton.

Look up Communist, then you'll begin to understand.

com?mu?nist \"kam-ye-nist\ noun (1840)
1 : an adherent or advocate of communism
2 cap : communard
3 a cap : a member of a Communist party or movement
b often cap : an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement
4 often cap : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities
communist adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?tic \'kam-ye-"nis-tik\ adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?ti?cal?ly \-ti-k(e-)le\ adverb

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.

com?mu?nist \"kam-ye-nist\ noun (1840)
1 : an adherent or advocate of communism
2 cap : communard
3 a cap : a member of a Communist party or movement
b often cap : an adherent or advocate of a Communist government, party, or movement
4 often cap : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities
communist adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?tic \'kam-ye-"nis-tik\ adjective often cap
com?mu?nis?ti?cal?ly \-ti-k(e-)le\ adverb

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Communist noun
a member of the Russian Communist party <restructuring of Russia by the Communists>
syn Bolshevik, ||Bolshie, commie, comrade, Red
rel fellow traveler, pink, pinko; Leninist, Marxist, Stalinist, Trotskyist; apparatchik

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.

com?mu?nism \"kam-ye-'ni-zem\ noun [F communisme, fr. commun common] (1840)
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property
b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 cap
a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R.
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably
d : communist systems collectively

(C)1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.

These definitions do not describe Ms Clinton anymore than the describe Mr Bush.

owned. <-----Edited----->

Come on, let's not get to carried away with the language, some of the natives are getting restless over it

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Aimster
she's an arrogant bitch

& us men hate arrogant bitches.

You would be arrogant too if you were as superior to her as she is to you.
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
On this forum, I have read Ms Clinton basically described as being the anti-christ to being the path to the end of Western Civilization as we know it, "communist cvnt", etc

Please enlighten me* and list what exactly is wrong with her. I make this request so that I can make an educated decision if she is the nominee next November.

*Please breakdown your rational as if you were talking to a five year old.

TIA

soooo.....you are asking an internet forum to offer opinions on why they think a canidate should or should not be a person you should vote for and that will guide your decision rather than doing the research of both sides yourself?


here is a clue...if you want some unbiased information...check her voting record...that should tell you all you need to know and that should be the overall guiding factor in your decision.....now what other people tell you.

I am trying to understand the hate expressed I have read towards Ms Clinton.


No...in your first post you stated:

make this request so that I can make an educated decision if she is the nominee next November.

so which is are you trying to understand the dislike for her or to guide a decision that you should make on your own?

If you are going to be one of those that let other peoples opinion guide your choice as to how to cast your vote (and you are no matter how you slice it) instead of doing your own research and look at her record and her past choices, then stay home....what is the point of you casting your ballot?...you are just casting it for someone else anyway.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
4 often cap : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities
communist adjective often cap

These definitions do not describe Ms Clinton anymore than the describe Mr Bush.

Since when has Bush engaged in left-wing activities? :laugh:

That describes Hillary to a T. Which is why I told you to look it up.
 

IronWing

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She's yet another center right, establishment candidate. I would prefer to vote for a liberal. Come next November, if Ms Clinton is the least right leaning candidate on the general election ballot, I will likely vote for her. Not out any great enthusiasm for her policies, but as damage control.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
4 often cap : one held to engage in left-wing, subversive, or revolutionary activities
communist adjective often cap

These definitions do not describe Ms Clinton anymore than the describe Mr Bush.

Since when has Bush engaged in left-wing activities? :laugh:

That describes Hillary to a T. Which is why I told you to look it up.

On this issues, Hillary is the most moderate of the democratic candidates. But that goes hand in hand with saying anything she thinks will get her elected.
 

ProfJohn

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There are dozens are REAL reasons to not like Hillary.

Here is just one reason to question Hillary and her ethics.
Taken from PBS Frontline:
Investigators have examined the Rose billing records not only to determine the role Hillary Clinton may have played in the Castle Grande transactions, but more significantly to ascertain her role in their mysterious disappearance and subsquent reappearance.

If someone had knowledge or possession of the billing records and knew that they were the subject of Federal investigative subpoenas, their failure to divulge or turn over the records could be the basis for criminal charges -- the obstruction of justice.

The billing records found in Hillary Clinton's book room were a copy of an original version printed out from the Rose Firm computer in 1992, when the computer file itself was deleted. Webb Hubbell has testified that he recalls reviewing a copy of the billing records in response to press inquiries during the 1992 Presidential campaign. Hubbell says that he then passed the records on to Vince Foster who was, as far as Hubbell knows, the last person to have the records.

Investigators believe the book room copy was indeed Vince Foster's. The copy contains notations, in red ink, that are Vince Foster's handwriting. These notations appear to be directed toward Hillary Clinton, including questions about some of the individual billings. Investigators believe this suggests that, at some point, this copy was passed from Vince Foster to Hillary Clinton for her review.

In addition, investigators had the FBI conduct fingerprint analysis of the billing records. Of significance, the prints of Vince Foster and Hillary Clinton were found.

The Senate Whitewater Committee concluded that Hillary Clinton was the person most likely to have put the billing records in her book room, or know how they got there. The Independent Counsel continues to investigate Ms. Clinton's involvement in handling the records.

For her part, Hillary Clinton has said that she has no idea how the billing records came to be in her book room.
In short: law firm records that were under subpoena for over 2 years mysteriously showed up in Hillary's Book Room aka a storage room or some type.

Amazingly Hillary has no idea how these records came to be in HER room.
So either Hillary is totally inept and has no idea what the people around here are doing and storing in her room or she is lying. Now based on the fact that Hillary is known to be a micromanager I think the second option makes more sense.

BTW the fact that Vince Foster decided to kill himself really has to make you wonder what is going on around Hillary as well. I am NOT saying that Hillary and Co had him killed. I am thinking that Foster found out something damaging to Bill and Hillary and that discovery might have been what pushed him over the edge.
 

ProfJohn

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Camille Paglia is a feminist liberal who supported John Kerry in 2004.

Here is what she had to say about Hillary:
The mainstream media have been in a breathless tizzy about how Hillary Clinton waffled, tripped, stumbled or generally screwed up at the Democratic debate in Philadelphia two weeks ago.

But Hillary's performance at prior debates was never as deft or "flawless" as the media claimed in the first place. Conventional wisdom has now flipped, and the air-headed lemmings of our free press have turned on a dime and are stampeding in the opposite direction. This is the same crew who passively swallowed administration propaganda about the urgency of an invasion of Iraq. Don't ask for critical acumen from this lot.

Hillary's stonewalling evasions and mercurial, soulless self-positionings have been going on since her first run for the U.S. Senate from New York, a state she had never lived in and knew virtually nothing about. The liberal Northeastern media were criminally complicit in enabling her queenlike, content-free "listening tour," where she took no hard questions and where her staff and security people (including her government-supplied Secret Service detail) staged events stocked with vetted sympathizers, and where they ensured that no protesters would ever come within camera range.

That compulsive micromanagement, ultimately emanating from Hillary herself, has come back to haunt her in her dismaying inability to field complex unscripted questions in a public forum. The presidential sweepstakes are too harsh an arena for tenderfoot novices. Hillary's much-vaunted "experience" has evidently not extended to the dynamic give-and-take of authentic debate. The mild challenges she has faced would be pitiful indeed by British standards, which favor a caustic style of witty put-downs that draw applause and gales of laughter in the House of Commons. Women had better toughen up if they aspire to be commander in chief.

Whether John Edwards or Barack Obama (toward whom I'm currently leaning) has conclusively demonstrated his superiority for the top of the ticket remains to be seen. They may unfortunately split the anti-Hillary vote (a majority of registered Democrats) so that she slips through. If Hillary is the Democratic nominee, I will certainly vote for her. But I continue to find it hard to believe that my party truly craves that long nightmare of déjà vu -- with scandal after scandal disgorged and an endless train of abused women returning from Bill Clinton's sordid, anti-feminist past.
 

Pabster

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The Clintons are crooks through and through, there really can't be any debate about that.

It is simply not a coincidence that scandal after scandal appears, Bill and Hillary know nothing, yet it always seems to benefit them in some way.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for cronyism and corruption. Hillary has ALL of Bill's negatives, and NONE of his positives.