What exactly does "pursuing a Ph.D" mean in this context?

Ricemarine

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I'm a bit confused as to what that phrase means based on the list of requirements needed for this position:

* Must be pursuing a Ph.D. degree with BS or MS degree already completed in Computer Science or related technical field.
* Must have academic research experience in one or more of the following areas: Computer Graphics, Computer Vision, Human-Computer Interaction, Audio/Signal Processing, or Machine Learning.
* Currently enrolled in an accredited college or university and actively pursuing a Bachelor's, Master's or Doctorate degree with at least one semester left after internship.

Does this imply they want someone who has already been accepted to graduate school? So, students that didn't get accepted need not apply?

Thanks!
 
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KentState

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That's how I read it. Either in the process of taking the classes or will be and have already been accepted.
 

Malak

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How could you possibly define pursuing in this context with someone making no current effort to achieve the goal?

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olds

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I am going to go out on a limb and say if you can't figure this one out, you are not Ph.D material.
 

Ricemarine

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How could you possibly define pursuing in this context with someone making no current effort to achieve the goal?

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I've applied to Ph.D programs but I have a strong feeling I may be rejected by all the schools I've applied to this year (all top 20). So, if that's the case, I'm still wondering if I can apply for these positions.
 

olds

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I've applied to Ph.D programs but I have a strong feeling I may be rejected by all the schools I've applied to this year (all top 20). So, if that's the case, I'm still wondering if I can apply for these positions.
I am pursuing Emmy Rossum. Let me know if you see her around.
 
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I've applied to Ph.D programs but I have a strong feeling I may be rejected by all the schools I've applied to this year (all top 20). So, if that's the case, I'm still wondering if I can apply for these positions.

Pursing generally means that you are currently enrolled towards getting a degree.
 

Meghan54

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I'm rather confused by your list.

First, it says this:

Must be pursuing a Ph.D. degree with BS or MS degree already completed in Computer Science or related technical field.




Third, it says this:

Currently enrolled in an accredited college or university and actively pursuing a Bachelor's, Master's or Doctorate degree with at least one semester left after internship.




So, either you've cut out much relevant information from the requirements section you lifted those three requirements from, or someone cannot decide what they want. Either you've got to be in a Ph.D. program or you've simply got to be in college pursuing a BS, MS, or Ph.D. Huh?

Sounds like the list is an either/or list......
 

KentState

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I've applied to Ph.D programs but I have a strong feeling I may be rejected by all the schools I've applied to this year (all top 20). So, if that's the case, I'm still wondering if I can apply for these positions.

I don't think you qualify. I could apply and be rejected by the top 20 schools just like you. Though your lack of understanding requirements like this makes you a perfect candidate for upper management.
 

KentState

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I'm rather confused by your list.

First, it says this:






Third, it says this:






So, either you've cut out much relevant information from the requirements section you lifted those three requirements from, or someone cannot decide what they want. Either you've got to be in a Ph.D. program or you've simply got to be in college pursuing a BS, MS, or Ph.D. Huh?

Sounds like the list is an either/or list......

Might be pursuing a Ph.D. in another field besides Computer Science.
 

zerocool84

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I don't think you qualify. I could apply and be rejected by the top 20 schools just like you. Though your lack of understanding requirements like this makes you a perfect candidate for upper management.

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I'm going to need those TPS reports before lunch.

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sactoking

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OP's confusion is legitimate. As already pointed out two of the three listed requirements are:
Must be pursuing a Ph.D. degree with BS or MS degree already completed in Computer Science or related technical field.
Currently enrolled in an accredited college or university and actively pursuing a Bachelor's, Master's or Doctorate degree with at least one semester left after internship.

So, what they want is someone who is "pursuing" a Comp Sci PhD with a BS or MS already completed who is also currently enrolled and actively pursuing a Bachelors, Masters, or Doctorate with at least one semester left.

This raises a couple questions:
Since the Comp Sci PhD has to be "pursued" while the other degree must be "actively pursued" can the Comp Sci PhD be 'passively' pursued, meaning you just have to have apps out or aspire to a program someday?
Given the wording, do they really want someone with a BS/MS in Comp Sci who is also already in another BS/MS/PhD program and who wants to get a Comp Sci PhD later? It really reads like the candidate should have at least one degree complete, one in progress, and one on deck to start.
 

KentState

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This could always be a cut paste issue with HR using a template and not editing correctly.
 

Gigantopithecus

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OP, apply for the job. That's what some silly HR person copy/pasted into the ad's requirements field (the third requirement is directly contradictory to the first requirement). They'll either give you an interview or they won't, but considering how little time it takes to apply for a job and that (most of the time) it costs nothing or next to nothing, what you have to lose is far less than what you have to gain.

But typically "pursuing a PhD" means you have completed your BS/BA, and have been accepted into or are currently enrolled in a PhD granting academic program.

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This could always be a cut paste issue with HR using a template and not editing correctly.

Haha, as I was typing...
 

Rubycon

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OP, apply for the job. That's what some silly HR person copy/pasted into the ad's requirements field (the third requirement is directly contradictory to the first requirement). They'll either give you an interview or they won't, but considering how little time it takes to apply for a job and that (most of the time) it costs nothing or next to nothing, what you have to lose is far less than what you have to gain.

But typically "pursuing a PhD" means you have completed your BS/BA, and have been accepted into or are currently enrolled in a PhD granting academic program.

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Haha, as I was typing...

Definitely as those HR folks can be funny! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34-t-QJ7cE
 

Imp

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You can pursue a Ph.D and work? Thought you had to be full-time at school. Haven't read much about it since I'm not remotely interested though.
 

Ricemarine

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This could always be a cut paste issue with HR using a template and not editing correctly.

here's the exact cut and pasted version. So... not an error on my part.

Intern, Computer Vision- Advanced Technology Lab-08073

Description


Adobe believes in hiring the very best. We are known for our vibrant, dynamic and rewarding workplace where personal and professional fulfillment and company success go hand in hand. We take pride in creating exceptional work experiences, encouraging innovation and being involved with our employees, customers and communities. We invite you to discover what makes Adobe a place where exceptional people thrive.

Click this link to experience A Day in the Life at Adobe: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/careeropp/fma/dayinthelife/

Position Summary

Adobe is seeking computer vision graduate students for its summer 2011 research internship program. Project areas include motion analysis, image-based modeling, 3D reconstruction, image and video retrieval, object detection and recognition, object tracking, image and video segmentation, and matting. As a computer vision research intern at Adobe, you will have the opportunity to develop new ideas suitable for academic publication, with the added potential of contributing to Adobe's product line, and consequently reaching millions of computer users worldwide.

Requirement

* Must be pursuing a Ph.D. degree with BS or MS degree already completed in Computer Science or related technical field.
* Must have academic research experience in one or more of the following areas: Computer Graphics, Computer Vision, Human-Computer Interaction, Audio/Signal Processing, or Machine Learning.
* Currently enrolled in an accredited college or university and actively pursuing a Bachelor's, Master's or Doctorate degree with at least one semester left after internship.

Adobe's dynamic working environment is well known - including 12 years on FORTUNE magazine's "100 Best Companies to Work For", and other, similar accolades. Recognizing that employees are at the core of our success, Adobe recruits and retains highly qualified and motivated individuals, creates an environment where they can innovate and achieve their best, and rewards them for their performance by giving them an opportunity to share in the company's success.

Adobe is an equal opportunity employer. We welcome and encourage diversity in the workplace.

About Adobe United States

Adobe has more than 5,000 employees in the United States and is headquartered in San Jose, California, with other office locations nationwide.


Job Intern-Technical
Primary LocationAmericas-USW-San Jose (Headquarters)

Schedule Full-time

Thank you for those who understood what I was confused about.
 
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Gigantopithecus

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You can pursue a Ph.D and work? Thought you had to be full-time at school. Haven't read much about it since I'm not remotely interested though.

I am currently pursuing a PhD (writing my dissertation, the last step) and working. I research & write about 40hrs/wk and work about 15hrs/wk.