What ever happenend to NVIDIA's nView software?

[Googer]

NVIDIA's nView software used to be a free and separate download back around 2005 and earlier, but I haven't used it since then. Now, I have two monitors again and wish to use it but NVIDIA no longer has it for download and it appears to now be a QUADRO only product. Where as years ago, it was freely available for all Geforce Products.

I have an nVIDIA 7600 with one Sony GDM-FW900 (16:10 crt) on VGA (1920x1200@85hz) and a Gateway FPD2185w (16:10 LCD) on DVI. Using the Geforce control panel forces my CRT monitor to use only 4:3 resolutions at brain busting 60hz. Both screens will run at the same constant (common) vertical resolution

If I remember correctly nView will allow me to run both displays at separate resolutions and manage two separate desktops with one right mouse click, where can I still download nView for free?

 

[Idontcare]

Nvidia decided that Nview would be available only for XP. In fact if you have XP installed and you download the latest drivers for your card you will get the latest version of Nview.

But if you "upgrade" to Vista or Win7 then you will find your Nvidia drivers have suddenly been "downgraded" to less functionality in the dual-monitor department.

Not such a big deal with Win7 since there is quite a bit of native multi-monitor support built in already. Or you could pony-up and buy something like multimon (which is what I did when I upgraded to win7 this spring).

But yeah, kinda irritating to find out that my existing Nvidia GPU product lost functionality and support when I upgraded my OS. Kinda like those suckers who bought NV and Aegia cards to run Physx with a non-NV GPU in their rig. Used to work, now it doesn't.

I'm told its called progress and innovation.

 

[Googer]

But yeah, kinda irritating to find out that my existing Nvidia GPU product lost functionality and support when I upgraded my OS. Kinda like those suckers who bought NV and Aegia cards to run Physx with a non-NV GPU in their rig. Used to work, now it doesn't.

I'm told its called progress and innovation.

While NVIDIA makes you pay for certain extras, ATI gives most of it to you for free.

Unlike their competition, NV likes to play dirty. At least ati plays nice with competing hardware and they almost never remove functionality from their products. NV very much reminds me of the accusations the Justice Dept made against MS in the mid 90s, except with MS you still had the choice to use Netscape. MS never blocked anyone from from installing another browser. All the more reason why we need to start sticking it to the Man (nvidia).

:twisted::thumbsdown:NVIDIA:thumbsdown:

BUY ATi​

 

[DominionSeraph]

While NVIDIA makes you pay for certain extras, ATI gives most of it to you for free.

Ah yes, like the wonders of CCC. Which crashes games but is required for crossfire.

 

[Googer]

Ah yes, like the wonders of CCC. Which crashes games but is required for crossfire.

My past experiences with ATi were positive. But to be honest with you, I have used Catalyst Control Panel on my personal PC but I haven't used an ATi product since I bought my 7600 a few years ago. So things may have changed and I'm not aware of it.

However, Nvidia is not with out it's FAULTS...

Remember the Crummy FX 5k series? The recent NV drivers that destroyed some GPUS? Oh and top end flagship video cards used to cost $200-$300 untill nvidia came along... yeah thanks.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GPU-failure,6248.html

 

[busydude]

While the statements you made may be well intentioned and based on your personal experience, to other users its nothing short of a flame bait.

Both have their set of issues to deal with, glorifying a brand/company over an other will, for sure, cause unintended consequences.

 

[Ika]

For what it's worth I had far more issues with my NV drivers on my 8800GTS 320mb than I have with my ATI drivers on my 5770, and yet people continue to mindlessly bash ATI drivers. They're not that bad, people!

 

[ModestGamer]

For what it's worth I had far more issues with my NV drivers on my 8800GTS 320mb than I have with my ATI drivers on my 5770, and yet people continue to mindlessly bash ATI drivers. They're not that bad, people!

my ATI experiences have been very positive. Old products in the pre AMD days not so much. However since AMD got on board I have been very impressed with the turn around and dramatic improvements in performance and QC as well as performance.

Nvidia still makes a good product. I just don't care for the shenanigans.

 

[heymrdj]

DRAIL much?

OP, I know it's not called nview, but on my laptop (NVidia GeForce 8600GTM) I have windows 7 Pro 64 bit loaded (I had it shipped with Vista Ultimate 64 bit 3 years ago and upgraded to Win 7 on school upgrade license). In my monitor properties I have full options available on both panels. This is using the latest nvidia drivers. I use an Acer V223W 22" widescreen as the main monitor (VGA), and a 19" Apex CRT television as SVideo for the secondary. I have normal television resolutions available at 29/30hz just for the tv and 1680x1050 at 72hz on the main. I'm not limited in any fashion what so ever. What kind of connection is going from your card to your CRT? That might be why it's limiting. Kind of like to push proper resolution to my room mates 52" Sony Bravia I had to connect to my laptops HDMI port, it limited me if I tried to use VGA.

Hopefully this can help in some way. The laptop is off with HP at the moment for final Accidental Protection Warranty repairs before its warranty expires, else I'd double check the stuff for you right now.

 

[Googer]

DRAIL much?

OP, I know it's not called nview, but on my laptop (NVidia GeForce 8600GTM) I have windows 7 Pro 64 bit loaded (I had it shipped with Vista Ultimate 64 bit 3 years ago and upgraded to Win 7 on school upgrade license). In my monitor properties I have full options available on both panels. This is using the latest nvidia drivers. I use an Acer V223W 22" widescreen as the main monitor (VGA), and a 19" Apex CRT television as SVideo for the secondary. I have normal television resolutions available at 29/30hz just for the tv and 1680x1050 at 72hz on the main. I'm not limited in any fashion what so ever. What kind of connection is going from your card to your CRT? That might be why it's limiting. Kind of like to push proper resolution to my room mates 52" Sony Bravia I had to connect to my laptops HDMI port, it limited me if I tried to use VGA.

Hopefully this can help in some way. The laptop is off with HP at the moment for final Accidental Protection Warranty repairs before its warranty expires, else I'd double check the stuff for you right now.

In the past, I have sucessfully run multiple monitors (including the 16:10 GDM-FW900 with a 4:3 Sony GDM-F500r) at mixed resolutions. The GDM-F500r is not connected at this moment.

The GDM-FW900 has two inputs, BNC connectors on an RGBHV signal and a HD-15 VGA connector with a switch on the front of the display to choose which to input use**. I am strictly using the RGBHV. Cabling is not likely the issue. Using an invferior analog cable may not necessarily prevent the monitor from displaying a resolution but it can affect the quality and clarity of the picture. My RGBHV cable is from Monster. I know, flame, flame: I got it cheap and decent RGHBV cables can be tough to find

I am certain the Issue here is software, not hardware. That's because the Nividia driver is locking out certain resolutions and refresh rates when two dis-similar displays are connected.

I am sure it's called nview, I am one of many who have used it before. It was a nice little multi-monitor configuration, monitor mangement, and app managment tool. With a special click of the mouse you could move a program to any monitor. Nview used to be free to home (Geforce users) but now NVIDIA has rescinded that decision and now reserves it for professional QUADRO users only.

**see page 6 of the PDF for a more detailed explaination.

 

[heymrdj]

I never said nview didn't exist, as I used it all the time with me FX cards. I'm saying that the overall software is there in windows 7/Vista when you install the drivers from their site. But it's not called nview. It's not quite nview, but it doesn't do any resolution restrictions for certain.

 

[VirtualLarry]

In the past, I have sucessfully run multiple monitors (including the 16:10

The GDM-FW900 has two inputs, BNC connectors on an RGBHV signal and a HD-15 VGA connector with a switch on the front of the display to choose which to input use**. I am strictly using the RGBHV. Cabling is not likely the issue. Using an invferior analog cable may not necessarily prevent the monitor from displaying a resolution but it can affect the quality and clarity of the picture. My RGBHV cable is from Monster. I know, flame, flame: I got it cheap and decent RGHBV cables can be tough to find

I am certain the Issue here is software, not hardware. That's because the Nividia driver is locking out certain resolutions and refresh rates when two dis-similar displays are connected.

Well, if you are using BNC cables, then the card cannot access the DDC data of the monitor, and thus will default the resolution to some pre-determined one, rather than use one that the monitor supports natively. (Well, unless you install a monitor .INF driver, which can be rather hard to find.)

 

[Googer]

Well, if you are using BNC cables, then the card cannot access the DDC data of the monitor, and thus will default the resolution to some pre-determined one, rather than use one that the monitor supports natively. (Well, unless you install a monitor .INF driver, which can be rather hard to find.)

I have the GDM-FW900 driver installed, which is included with Windows by default. Sony has an updated version of this driver on their website and that is what I have been using.

 

[gorobei]

nview did multimonitor, multi res, monitor specific applications and menus, multi desktop backdrops. it was really quite nice when it worked.

vista/7 did away with it with WDDM. so in exchange for less hard crashes, you lost some functionality.

 

[Googer]

nview did multimonitor, multi res, monitor specific applications and menus, multi desktop backdrops. it was really quite nice when it worked.

vista/7 did away with it with WDDM. so in exchange for less hard crashes, you lost some functionality.

If you are willing to make the trade-off It would still be nice to have the option to use whichever one you like the best.

 

[Ben90]

While NVIDIA makes you pay for certain extras, ATI gives most of it to you for free.

The problem with this statement is the advanced functions of ATi cannot be done with the driver they release and needs to be done with third party software. Things such as disabling vysnc on dxd6- games is impossible when combined with windows 7, while its a breeze on Nvidia hardware.

I really don't like people jumping into these conversations saying ATi's driver is just as good as Nvidia's. Once you get away from the basic functions such as AA/AF/Pixel Shader Tweaks on windows systems, Nvidia blows ATi away.

Back on topic, I really hope Windows 8 incorporates the pin to top feature of Nview because that was actually pretty useful.

 

[mindless1]

For what it's worth I had far more issues with my NV drivers on my 8800GTS 320mb than I have with my ATI drivers on my 5770, and yet people continue to mindlessly bash ATI drivers. They're not that bad, people!

Well, since you put it that way...

I've been selling and servicing PCs for quite a few years now and on average the ATI drivers have caused more problems. I'm not really interested in whether someone else agrees or not - because the only truly reliable info I can go by is personal experience, and the fact that once I noticed more problems with ATI drivers, I bought more nVidia cards and STILL encountered more ATI driver problems. It's not mindless to complain when a product does not work properly or you need to know some trick instead of just clicking the install file and having it work.

Having written that, my last system build had an ATI chipset and is 100% super duper great with a cherry on top. I don't avoid ATI products I just feel ATI is stronger at hardware and nVidia at software. Next time I'm reading an nVidia hardware bashing topic my post would make me look more like an ATI fanboi than an nVidia fanboi, that's just the way these things work out because mentioning problems does not mean there's nothing positive to say... it's just that we don't need reports from people that say "it works" because that's what we expect in a perfect world.

 

[tweakboy]

It's still there. It is simple interface not like CCC

I like them to keep it the same way for another 20 years.... nice and simple..

 

[Obsoleet]

Nvidia has been failing in their drivers for years now, since Vista's release. I had bad experiences with ATI products prior to the AMD buyout, but anymore the drivers are on par or better than NV's. People like to talk about CCC but it works flawlessly for me (but I do have a SSD so everything is fast).
My favorite video card of all time is my 5870, bumping my previous #1, a Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo1 4MB.. to #2. That's the best endorsement anyone could give to a video card.

 

[Troll4Hire]

Nvidia has been failing in their drivers for years now, since Vista's release. I had bad experiences with ATI products prior to the AMD buyout, but anymore the drivers are on par or better than NV's. People like to talk about CCC but it works flawlessly for me (but I do have a SSD so everything is fast).
My favorite video card of all time is my 5870, bumping my previous #1, a Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo1 4MB.. to #2. That's the best endorsement anyone could give to a video card.

ATi drivers were great once they released the 9700pro. Prior to that, there was some room to gripe.

 

[tweakboy]

LOL hey obsoleet my Hercules 2d/3d first ever card powned your voodoo 1 LOL jk funny stuff,,,,

 

[Cerb]

ATi drivers were great once they released the 9700pro. Prior to that, there was some room to gripe.

Nah. My 9600XT made me come crying back to nVidia. The same card happily runs the legacy Catalysts, today, without a hitch.

By the time the X1xxx cards were mainstream, they were definitely starting to do OK. Today, they are about on par w/ nV, and getting better w/ every release. Also, nV didn't exactly pull off the best execution of their drivers for Vista, and then 7.

 

[Obsoleet]

I had no problems with my 9800 Pro other than OpenGL games. Call of Duty (1) would not run right, and it was so bad that my old Geforce2MX was faster. I don't know if the bug was ever fixed, I went back to my GF4 4200 and sold the 9800.

Back then, Nvidia was the way to go (chipsets and GPUs). Today I prefer Intel (chipsets, CPUs, mobile) and AMD (chipsets, GPUs, CPUs) hardware. Although I recently bought a used 7600GS for a family member's older computer, simply because older ATI hardware than the HD series is not supported in anything but the legacy drivers (which work great, but I wanted something with current official support and I know more about the older NV cards, the GF7 has dual-link DVI).
That said, I wouldn't buy any brand new NV hardware.

The Hercules 2D/3D card with Voodoo1 and a 2D chip? Or a Hercules Banshee card? I miss the old days.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I had some problem with ATI hardware just recently. 780G mobo, connected by HDMI to an LCD TV. Got a bluescreen, hit the power button, hit the power button again to turn on, it beeps twice, but nothing on screen. I had to pull the power plug, to reset it, and then it was working fine again.

System is overclocked, so that could have been the reason, but it's been pretty stable otherwise.

 

[Obsoleet]

Yeah, sounds like a PSU issue, either needs replaced or upgraded. I kept upgrading video cards until I ran into the same issue, without really keeping in mind power requirements kept increasing.