I have read several people saying use 3.2s still, some for 3.4 and a few for 3.5 (didn't know it was out). I will be installing this card in a couple of days and just wanted to see what some of the opinions are. If any of you have the 9800 Pro please give me your rating of the card so far.
What driver is recommended for a 9800 Pro?
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From what I read on rage3d all yesterday (4 hours of reading) I went with the 3.5s. They seem great so far on my 9000NP, if tomorrow wasn't a holiday I would have my 9800P in my hands !!! argh, I will be waiting until Monday 
I just bought one myself, the 9800 Pro and the 3.5 drivers were terrible, artifacts galore.
I switched to the 3.2 which seem more stable.
Now I know what everyone was talking about with the ATI drivers.
I might sell and go the FX 5900 because ATI drivers suck big time compared to Nvidias
I tried all the drivers the 3.4, 3.0, 3.5 and the 3.2 works for the most part but they need help.
When I try to run with 4x as or A the artifacts fly, I can't even get through the 3 d marks 03 bench with anything turned on.
I turn everything down and it benches, my card is going back if I cannot get a little more stability from it. It's not even OCed
I switched to the 3.2 which seem more stable.
Now I know what everyone was talking about with the ATI drivers.
I might sell and go the FX 5900 because ATI drivers suck big time compared to Nvidias
I tried all the drivers the 3.4, 3.0, 3.5 and the 3.2 works for the most part but they need help.
When I try to run with 4x as or A the artifacts fly, I can't even get through the 3 d marks 03 bench with anything turned on.
I turn everything down and it benches, my card is going back if I cannot get a little more stability from it. It's not even OCed
Nope, Fedex from newegg BUT good news, they delivered it early and this thing rocks !! ( I updated my rig)
Not a single artifact for me with the 3.5s. What games are you playing?
I have not had one problem with 3.5's there awesome...
System Specs
Amd xp 2200- corsair platinum xms 2 512 sticks ddr2700
Abit AT7- win.xp pro sp1
WD 80Gig with 8mb cache
ATI 9800 pro-vision tek
sb live x-gamer-desktop theater 2500 digital
cendyne cd-rw dvd combo
antec 350 watt ps
3d2001-12600
3d2003-5400
System Specs
Amd xp 2200- corsair platinum xms 2 512 sticks ddr2700
Abit AT7- win.xp pro sp1
WD 80Gig with 8mb cache
ATI 9800 pro-vision tek
sb live x-gamer-desktop theater 2500 digital
cendyne cd-rw dvd combo
antec 350 watt ps
3d2001-12600
3d2003-5400
Schadenfroh
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This is an old topic, but everytime I am just about to buy a radeon 9800pro I read one of these driver posts. The review sites can't say good enough about ati and never have driver problems. The other thing I wonder about is nvidia making deals with game developers. The last three games I purchased have made for nvidia written all over them. It makes you wonder......if they decrease performance for ati cards. Anyway, I want to replace my ti4400 and the 9800 seems like a killer card that does very well against the 5900. I have a P4/645 board and I often wonder if I could even fit one of those huge 5900 boards in my case.
No flaming lets just hear some positive ati driver stories.
No flaming lets just hear some positive ati driver stories.
The developers dont lower the performance of ATI cards, or significantly improve the performance of nVidia cards. The nVidia logos that you see in game, are a digital form of product placement. At most, the developers might re-write a ingame shader to work slighty better on nVidia cards.
The 9800 is an amazing card, like the 9700 before it. In custom benchmarks, ie, ones that nVidia/ATI cant optimise for, the 9800 out performs the 5900 in 90% of tests. Hell, even the 9700pro outperforms the 5900 in most tests, on custom benchmarks. Both cards are good though. But imo, the 9800 is better.
Despite what alot of people here will have you belive, ATI drivers are quite good now and are getting better, its just that when someone has a problem, its usually a serious one. The HL bug being the obvious example. But for the most part, and for most people, ATI drivers are perfectly stable, and have only a few, minor bugs, like most drivers.
Ive had a 9700pro since february, and have used Cat2.2 to 3.5, and i havnt found a problem with any of them. They just continue getting better, faster, and have even less bugs with them.
Good to hear some positive driver experiences. I am still undecided about which card to get. If I go ati I am going to have to reinstall xp, which is kind of a pain. Thanks for the info.
You dont have to re-install XP. There are several programs, such as driver cleaner and detonator destroyer, that supposidly get rid of the nvidia stuff, leaving your system "fresh" for the ATI drivers. Some people have gotten them to work, but i couldnt get the card working without severe performance drops. So i re-installed XP, and my performance went up by 70%.
So if you want good performance then it is probably worth it to reinstall xp. Wouldn't want to buy a top of the line vid card and wonder if you are getting the full benefit. I have heard about det destroyer and others, but have always been told a fresh install is best.
Well I just had an upgrade nightmare! I purchased a ATI 9800 Pro and uninstalled my Nvidia drivers, installed the ATI card, rebooted and proceeded with the new software/drivers. Had nothing but problems with various bars and colors on my desktop and compatibility problems with my software. Had all kinds of artifacts after installing this card and I did follow the ATI instructions to the letter. This was ATI's only chance with me as far as I'm concerned and I'm returning the card and getting a variation of the 5900. ATI needs to do some serious work with there drivers. While the cards performance may be good NVIDIA has them easily beat when it comes to drivers and compatibility!
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Well don't you need to reinstall xp to make sure all of the nvidia junk is out of there? If you do that and then have problems I would return it, but as we have been discussing a fresh copy of xp is important. The system is set up for nvidia drivers and I doubt by uninstalling the drivers you get rid of everything. Plus all your games and software have probably already detected a nvidia card.
Im afraid you`ve just sold/took back a perfectly good card.
The problem is not the ATI drivers. Its the old nvidia drivers causing problems.
When i upgraded, i did the same, uninstalled the nvidia drivers, deleted nvida registary entries and any remaining nvidia stuff. Installed the 9700 and the latest drivers, and i got loads of image problems, like icons not being displayed, fragmented windows, very poor performance, but after a complete format and re-install of windows, with the same ATI drivers, everything was working perfectly, flawless image quality, no artifacts and amazing performance.
It seems you`ve been a bit rash there doesnt it? There is nothing wrong with ATI`s drivers.
Its what i like to call "the revenge of nvidia". The system knows that your replacing the nvidia card with an ATI one, and so, to thwart your efforts of a great gaming experiance, it mess`s everything up for you, no matter how hard you try to fix it. The only known cure is a format and re-install of everything. There are also rumors of exorcist programs that`ll fix it for you without a re-install, but sightings have been few and far between.....
CrystalBay
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If thats the case then why doesn't ATI even mention this in the manual? I'd think they would make these drivers a little more bullet-proof and maybe even include a little built-in utility that would do this for you automatically if this really was such a big issue. That makes me laugh, have to reinstall Windows to install my $400.00 video card. Next you will be telling me that I have to use a 60hz refresh rate, lower my AGP setting to 4X, and increase my AGP voltage, buy a new motherboard or Power supply to make this work. The reason I mention these things is because I've seen them all mentioned in this forum to MAKE my ATI card WORK! Do these ATI cards REALLY have these many BUG/PROBLEMS that people have to resort to these things? This just isn't worth it to me, maybe I've been spoiled by Nvidia cards! I really want to give this card a chance and have not taken it back yet but even after I took the 9800 card out it almost crashed my system. I still don't have all of the ATI stuff out yet. Am I being unfair or are these cards really this quirky? Having video artifacts is a big issue for me. Compatibility with my games is a bigger issue than speed especially when the speed difference between this card and the 5900 Ultra is so close.
Actually, it wold be nVidia's job to uninstall their own drivers fully, no?
You sure you didn't just receive a defective card? I just switched from an integrated GF2MX on my nForce 1 to a Radeon 9100 using the Cat 3.5's, and the transition was flawless. I also installed the 9100 into an older PC containing an Xpert 128, and had just as trouble-free an experience. Sorry to hear you had so much trouble.
You sure you didn't just receive a defective card? I just switched from an integrated GF2MX on my nForce 1 to a Radeon 9100 using the Cat 3.5's, and the transition was flawless. I also installed the 9100 into an older PC containing an Xpert 128, and had just as trouble-free an experience. Sorry to hear you had so much trouble.
just go for the omega version of the 3.5cats, scroll down a bit and you should see the omega 3.5 topic. heard very good reviews on it so far.
Nvidia needs to make an uninstaller for their drivers and ATI for theirs. They should know what their driver installation installed.
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