I'm just curious because I've NEVER had the urge to do either because of an incident that happened while I was young. I'm not judging or saying its wrong but I'd like to know the motivation behind it,if any. Thanks!
What draws you towards drugs or drinking?
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Good question.
While still very young my mother contracted lung cancer. As such I immediately developed a hatred of tobacco. That explains that one.
While still young I watched my father be an alcoholic. My only exposure was to take a sip here and there to see what it tasted like. I found that beer was disgusting, but wine, champagne, and hard alcohol tasted very good. Even so, I wanted nothing to do with them after seeing how it had affected my father. I asked many people about drinking and by the time I was 17 had a pretty good understanding. It seemed it was about peer pressure, it was about doing what kids weren't supposed to (especially when it's just an American stigma), it was about relaxing and throwing off artificiality which rules the lives of children (even though they inwardly desire to abolish the cliques and seperatist mentality), it was about being happy and forgetting the bad things, if only for a little while.
I had a bad experience when I was 17 and couldn't bring myself out of it. My friends older sister offered me a bottle of sour whiskey so I could just get smashed and finally sleep for a full night. I did. It worked. For at least the time I was drunk and the time I was unconcious
I didn't have any problems. Fortunately I don't suffer hangovers so I didn't have to pay for the escape either. I decided then that although I wouldn't ever become a casual drinker, alcohol was one method of escaping reality that I could use when absolutely necessary. I have continued in this manner of thinking. I very seldom drink, but when I want a night of throwing everything out the window, I drink like a pro. I also LOVE the taste of wines and often have a glass with dinner or desert, but no more than just a glass. At that level, alcohol actually exhibits positive medical properties.
As for drugs, the reasons to do them are the same as the reasons to drink alcohol. However, unlike alcohol, the negative effects are far more dangerous and unpredictable. People will argue that driving drunk is more dangerous than driving with a joint, and they're correct. However, driving drunk is a choice that you can avoid. You CAN drink seldom and responsibly. You never hear of anyone drinking laced scotch (except Rohypnol and other date rape drugs which is a different subject entirely) and dying from it. Long term alcohol abuse is certainly damaging, but a single use of E or LSD or laced pot CAN kill, or severely damage. As long as alcohol is kept very seldom and moderate you won't see the serious damage everyone screams about.
Also, I've seen too many people (and known even more who've seen too many people) lose their personalities to drugs, especially marijuana. People who only smoke once or twice a week who over the course of a few months turn into some complete freak, incapable of functioning in a non-druggie environment. So many brilliant lives that can't form a cohesive thought any more. I have, in all fairness, known some people who are VERY RARE users who can go their entire lives without negative effect.
Anyway, that's my observations...everything is about escape, fitting in, feeling a part of something...at any cost.
While still very young my mother contracted lung cancer. As such I immediately developed a hatred of tobacco. That explains that one.
While still young I watched my father be an alcoholic. My only exposure was to take a sip here and there to see what it tasted like. I found that beer was disgusting, but wine, champagne, and hard alcohol tasted very good. Even so, I wanted nothing to do with them after seeing how it had affected my father. I asked many people about drinking and by the time I was 17 had a pretty good understanding. It seemed it was about peer pressure, it was about doing what kids weren't supposed to (especially when it's just an American stigma), it was about relaxing and throwing off artificiality which rules the lives of children (even though they inwardly desire to abolish the cliques and seperatist mentality), it was about being happy and forgetting the bad things, if only for a little while.
I had a bad experience when I was 17 and couldn't bring myself out of it. My friends older sister offered me a bottle of sour whiskey so I could just get smashed and finally sleep for a full night. I did. It worked. For at least the time I was drunk and the time I was unconcious
I didn't have any problems. Fortunately I don't suffer hangovers so I didn't have to pay for the escape either. I decided then that although I wouldn't ever become a casual drinker, alcohol was one method of escaping reality that I could use when absolutely necessary. I have continued in this manner of thinking. I very seldom drink, but when I want a night of throwing everything out the window, I drink like a pro. I also LOVE the taste of wines and often have a glass with dinner or desert, but no more than just a glass. At that level, alcohol actually exhibits positive medical properties.As for drugs, the reasons to do them are the same as the reasons to drink alcohol. However, unlike alcohol, the negative effects are far more dangerous and unpredictable. People will argue that driving drunk is more dangerous than driving with a joint, and they're correct. However, driving drunk is a choice that you can avoid. You CAN drink seldom and responsibly. You never hear of anyone drinking laced scotch (except Rohypnol and other date rape drugs which is a different subject entirely) and dying from it. Long term alcohol abuse is certainly damaging, but a single use of E or LSD or laced pot CAN kill, or severely damage. As long as alcohol is kept very seldom and moderate you won't see the serious damage everyone screams about.
Also, I've seen too many people (and known even more who've seen too many people) lose their personalities to drugs, especially marijuana. People who only smoke once or twice a week who over the course of a few months turn into some complete freak, incapable of functioning in a non-druggie environment. So many brilliant lives that can't form a cohesive thought any more. I have, in all fairness, known some people who are VERY RARE users who can go their entire lives without negative effect.
Anyway, that's my observations...everything is about escape, fitting in, feeling a part of something...at any cost.
I got smoked up once but I dodn't like it. I just got light headed and I was like" This Sux, I can't move now" I like drinking though. I'm a gin and tonic man, but I'll drink just about anything that is supposed to be served in a highball glass, with ice. I drink because I like the taste and things become 10X more fun when socially lubricated.
Alcohol makes you light-headed - but takes away your inhibitions too.
Toking doesn't take away your inhibitions - can be good - can be bad.
Toking doesn't take away your inhibitions - can be good - can be bad.
<< It's a different way to face reality >>
It's a way to turn your back on reality. Don't kid yourself.
Well there are different levels, one can enjoy a few drinks with a meal. When done like that a person isn't really drinking. The booze is basically food.
On the other hand you get sh!tfaced or stoned just to feel good basically. It gets old real fast.
On the other hand you get sh!tfaced or stoned just to feel good basically. It gets old real fast.
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<< It's a different way to face reality >>
It's a way to turn your back on reality. Don't kid yourself. >>
TRUE.
You are just hiding from reality.
Hiding isn't necessarily a bad thing...for instance, I'd much rather hide from a sniper than turn my back on one.
Entity23 - if your father said that.... that's well out of order. Even if he DID feel it had something to do with it - that's disgusting that he told you.
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Well, when I first started drinking in college, it was to help meet people. All the freshman in college would have these little "gatherings" of 10 to 20 people and you'd just walk from party to party meeting other people. It was okay, until I finally realized that these people I met would be nothing more than aquaintances and I'm really not into having a bunch of "aquaintances".
By my sophomore year, I had developed a very tight group of 5 of us. Alcohol became a regular weekend thing for us. We'd get drunk and then sit around and play Diablo all weekend.
By the time I hit my Junior year, I was drinking probably 4 nights of the week. I was in a deep depression because of a very hard breakup that I couldn't get over, and so long as I was drunk, I didn't care. I pulled a 1.75 GPA this semester.
My Senior year, I met a wonderful girl, turned myself back around. Gave up hard alcohol. Found a love for the taste of beer, and was working and going to school so much, I didn't have time to drink. Beer allowed me to judge my drinking and control it far better than what hard alcohol could. I'd just buy a six pack at a time and drink that. Once the six pack was gone, the beer was gone. No more drinking for the night.
Now, a year and a half out of college, I haven't touched hard alcohol in two and a half years. I still drink beer, but it's because I really, really like the taste of it. A nice wheat beer with a slice of lemon is a taste of liquid heaven. I'm happy with my life and I don't need to drink to mask any fears or denials. If I get drunk, its usually because we are having a great time and the drunkeness adds to it - IE bowling or lan parties I don't drink to make myself feel better, or to forget any problems in my life. I drink because I like the taste and in the right situations, it can really make for a fun evening.
By my sophomore year, I had developed a very tight group of 5 of us. Alcohol became a regular weekend thing for us. We'd get drunk and then sit around and play Diablo all weekend.
By the time I hit my Junior year, I was drinking probably 4 nights of the week. I was in a deep depression because of a very hard breakup that I couldn't get over, and so long as I was drunk, I didn't care. I pulled a 1.75 GPA this semester.
My Senior year, I met a wonderful girl, turned myself back around. Gave up hard alcohol. Found a love for the taste of beer, and was working and going to school so much, I didn't have time to drink. Beer allowed me to judge my drinking and control it far better than what hard alcohol could. I'd just buy a six pack at a time and drink that. Once the six pack was gone, the beer was gone. No more drinking for the night.
Now, a year and a half out of college, I haven't touched hard alcohol in two and a half years. I still drink beer, but it's because I really, really like the taste of it. A nice wheat beer with a slice of lemon is a taste of liquid heaven. I'm happy with my life and I don't need to drink to mask any fears or denials. If I get drunk, its usually because we are having a great time and the drunkeness adds to it - IE bowling or lan parties
I don't drink to make myself feel better, or to forget any problems in my life. I drink because I like the taste and in the right situations, it can really make for a fun evening.<< What draws you towards drugs or drinking? >>
The drugs and drinking, like others said. When I was only dabbling in it, every few weekends, it wasn't a problem. But, as I became a regular weekend warrior, it began to come with a price. After a few years, I decided the price was too high, especially when I was around 25. I don't care what they say, you can't bounce back from a night of drunkeness at 25 like you could when you were 17. At least I couldn't. I was hung-over all the next day, badly. No thanks. I haven't drank in over 3 years, other than a glass of champagne I was incessantly offered at a New Year's Eve party last year. One glass of champagne, the short ones, and it gave me a headache. Blah.
most people drink or do drugs to distract themselves from the general discontent of their meaningless lives.
nakedfrog
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Mary jane is a good way to tap into your musical abilities. It definitely helps connect more to the right side of the brain and less of the left. It just seems as though the music flows out more naturally than when in a normal state of mind. Alcohol can have the same effect, but it also impairs motor skills a lot more, which causes more mistakes.
That's my two cents.
That's my two cents.
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