What does "we are a proud people" mean?

[Puppies04]

We are a proud people. We are very proud of where we came from hence the fact we left and moved to your country.

 

[darkswordsman17]

It means "We're not a white male, so therefore we are going to make this retarded statement to think we are special. In reality, we're sad pieces of shit that can't live life daily without telling ourselves that we're super dooper special."

The Black Panthers feel that way.
The 2nd poster in this thread feels that way.
Every Latin I see where their nation's flag spewed all over their truck/car feels that way.

What's your point?

Let me guess you're a mid 20s white male that's become convinced that you're the most oppressed demographic in the history of mankind.

 

[SlitheryDee]

We are a proud people. We are very proud of where we came from hence the fact we left and moved to your country.

Nicaragua!

 

[BurnItDwn]

The Black Panthers feel that way.
The 2nd poster in this thread feels that way.
Every Latin I see where their nation's flag spewed all over their truck/car feels that way.

What's your point?

My point is that "proud of my people" is sometimes just a way to mask racism.

 

[JJ650]

In high school, we had a student in our class that traced her heritage back to the Zulu nation. Her family was not from slave descent. Our history teacher was really good and did a great job of teaching. Her family heritage was from slavery.
One day they were talking about the Zulu nation and our classmate said, "we are proud of our people". The teacher didn't want ANY of that and launched into her asking how proud she was of selling her fellow people into slavery and "aiding in the horrors that MY people endured because YOU people wanted to turn a buck!"

That was an uncomfortable class that day.

Yea, didn't answer your question. Just made me recall that day.

 

[mikeford]

I hear it usually as "we are a proud people" BUT. Something a person says that thinks negatively about their people in general, but they are proud as in unwilling to recognize faults.

 

[mikeford]

In high school, we had a student in our class that traced her heritage back to the Zulu nation. Her family was not from slave descent. Our history teacher was really good and did a great job of teaching. Her family heritage was from slavery.
One day they were talking about the Zulu nation and our classmate said, "we are proud of our people". The teacher didn't want ANY of that and launched into her asking how proud she was of selling her fellow people into slavery and "aiding in the horrors that MY people endured because YOU people wanted to turn a buck!"

That was an uncomfortable class that day.

Yea, didn't answer your question. Just made me recall that day.

As I understand it the alternative practice in a tribal conflict was to kill everyone in the losing tribe. Seems barbaric, but nobody gripes to you 200 years later about sparing their lives.

 

[JJ650]

As I understand it the alternative practice in a tribal conflict was to kill everyone in the losing tribe. Seems barbaric, but nobody gripes to you 200 years later about sparing their lives.

Some people are just too proud to say "thank you"?

 

[Dirigible]

My point is that "proud of my people" is sometimes just a way to mask racism.

It's always racist or similarly dumb.

My granfalloon is different than your granfalloon, and that difference is one way my granfalloon is superior.

 

[Drako]

¡Viva la Raza!

 

[glenn1]

In high school, we had a student in our class that traced her heritage back to the Zulu nation. Her family was not from slave descent. Our history teacher was really good and did a great job of teaching. Her family heritage was from slavery.
One day they were talking about the Zulu nation and our classmate said, "we are proud of our people". The teacher didn't want ANY of that and launched into her asking how proud she was of selling her fellow people into slavery and "aiding in the horrors that MY people endured because YOU people wanted to turn a buck!"

That was an uncomfortable class that day.

Yea, didn't answer your question. Just made me recall that day.

Sounds like the teacher feels bashful about declaring himself to be of a "proud people" considering they were pussies who got their asses kicked and sold into slavery by the Zulus.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

By hear this a lot I assume you're probably referencing ads and/or entertainment? I've literally never heard anyone say that ever without it being some ad for a company looking to specifically exploit said people or in a non comedic/joking fashion.

I hear it, see it written, sometimes in FB comments. I hear it in speeches too. I also see it in the form of things like logos that say "Native Pride" and other such bullshit.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

As I understand it the alternative practice in a tribal conflict was to kill everyone in the losing tribe. Seems barbaric, but nobody gripes to you 200 years later about sparing their lives.

I think this is a good policy, otherwise you might be roped into a deal where everyone tries to guilt you for being born a certain race and you have to provide free healthcare to a bunch of racist ingrates (hypothetically, of course.)

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

My point is that "proud of my people" is sometimes just a way to mask racism.

I agree with that statement. The more pride one takes in their race then the more likely they are to be racist.

 

[Tango]

In high school, we had a student in our class that traced her heritage back to the Zulu nation. Her family was not from slave descent. Our history teacher was really good and did a great job of teaching. Her family heritage was from slavery.
One day they were talking about the Zulu nation and our classmate said, "we are proud of our people". The teacher didn't want ANY of that and launched into her asking how proud she was of selling her fellow people into slavery and "aiding in the horrors that MY people endured because YOU people wanted to turn a buck!"

That was an uncomfortable class that day.

Yea, didn't answer your question. Just made me recall that day.

It is extremely (you might in fact say impossible) unlikely that Zulus ever traded slaves with the Americas.

So, in this specific case the teacher was defending a good point, but being ignorant about the specifics.

We are a proud people. We are very proud of where we came from hence the fact we left and moved to your country.

People don't necessarily have much to do with countries. I call no country home. I have three passports and am eligible for two more, lived in a dozen countries and still divide my time equally between two continents. The very concept of being nationalistic about a country seems weird to me.

On the other hand there is a cultural heritage of which I am proud, in the sense that I recognize it as defining who I am, what I am part of.

 

[KlokWyze]

God damn. AT is delivering quality threads today! LMAO....

 

[bradly1101]

I hear this a lot - "We are a proud people." I especially hear it from minorities. I hear natives say it quite often. What the hell does that even mean? I have never heard of a group of people who aren't proud. I've never heard someone say "Yeah, my heritage is X, but we really are quite ashamed and wish we were Y."

What the fuck does it mean, and why do people say it?

We gays can be awfully prideful too. I believe there's a reason that pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Pride is the opposite of humility.

 

[bradly1101]

We are a proud people. We are very proud of where we came from hence the fact we left and moved to your country.

Um I think we moved in on them (at least the native Americans) Edit: and the Mexicans in the Southwest. .

 

[Theb]

I hear this a lot - "We are a proud people." I especially hear it from minorities. I hear natives say it quite often. What the hell does that even mean? I have never heard of a group of people who aren't proud. I've never heard someone say "Yeah, my heritage is X, but we really are quite ashamed and wish we were Y."

What the fuck does it mean, and why do people say it?

I can't recall anyone ever saying this to me. If you're hearing it a lot I imagine you're saying or doing something you shouldn't be.

 

[zinfamous]

I hear it usually as "we are a proud people" BUT. Something a person says that thinks negatively about their people in general, but they are proud as in unwilling to recognize faults.

so, like, "Bless our hearts, but we just can't get shit done."

 

[bradly1101]

I think it's all a reaction to overt as well as unspoken white pride.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I think it's all a reaction to overt as well as unspoken white pride.

I think everyone who starts throwing the [insert group here] pride around, including the white pride guys, do so out of some sense of being oppressed. They do it because they perceive a deficiency in their group or at least their group's status in society and want to balance it out in any way they can. Nebulous concepts like being "a proud people" can do that for them, at least on the surface of their thoughts. It gives them a reason to feel good about nothing other than being who they happen to be, which is kind of a bullshit idea when you think about it hard enough.

 

[Dirigible]

My people don't think hard about things.


#freethebieb

 

[bradly1101]

They do it because they perceive a deficiency in their group or at least their group's status in society and want to balance it out in any way they can.

Yes I should've added 'perceived' white pride.

It gives them a reason to feel good about nothing other than being who they happen to be, which is kind of a bullshit idea when you think about it hard enough.

There's no 'i' in humility, oh wait...