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What does this use of the word "but" mean?

Arcadio

Diamond Member
I've always confused the meaning of a sentence using the word "but" in that way. For example, when you see something like "That woman is all but sincere" Does that mean that the woman is not sincere? or does that mean that sincerity is the only attribute she possesses?

I'm not a native English speaker, btw. Just in case you're wondering....
 
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
The speaker is anything except for angry. In other words NOT angry.

That woman is all but sincere; NOT sincere.

It's funny because 'all but' gets misused so much. I've seen / heard it used in newspapers, narratives and so forth as a synonym for "especially", in a sense. As you put it "all but sincere" would mean "very sincere". It boggles my mind, it's right there, all BUT! That negates it! Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
The speaker is anything except for angry. In other words NOT angry.

That woman is all but sincere; NOT sincere.

It's funny because 'all but' gets misused so much. I've seen / heard it used in newspapers, narratives and so forth as a synonym for "especially", in a sense. As you put it "all but sincere" would mean "very sincere". It boggles my mind, it's right there, all BUT! That negates it! Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

Really? Maybe that's why I'm so confused about its meaning... why can't people use correct grammar?!

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...
 
:music:
Oh my god
Becky, look at her butt
Its so big
She looks like one of those rap guys girlfriends
Who understands those rap guys
They only talk to her because she looks like a total prostitute
I mean her butt
It's just so big
I can't believe it's so round
It's just out there
I mean, it's gross
Look, she's just so black

*rap*
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung
Wanna pull up tough
Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh, baby I wanna get with ya
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got
Make Me so horney
Ooh, rump of smooth skin
You say you wanna get in my benz
Well use me use me cuz you aint that average groupy

I've seen them dancin'
To hell with romancin'
She's Sweat,Wet, got it goin like a turbo vette

I'm tired of magazines
Saying flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back

So Fellas (yeah) Fellas(yeah)
Has your girlfriend got the butt (hell yeah)
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake that healthy butt
Baby got back
:music:
 
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
The speaker is anything except for angry. In other words NOT angry.

That woman is all but sincere; NOT sincere.

It's funny because 'all but' gets misused so much. I've seen / heard it used in newspapers, narratives and so forth as a synonym for "especially", in a sense. As you put it "all but sincere" would mean "very sincere". It boggles my mind, it's right there, all BUT! That negates it! Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

Really? Maybe that's why I'm so confused about its meaning... why can't people use correct grammar?!

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...

It's not really good style. A good editor would remove the tired usage and make it more clear.

She's all but sincere should be - she's not sincere. People often write with cliches and colloquisims because they think they sound fancy and it pads their writing. Unfortunatley, it just makes you a bad writer. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
The speaker is anything except for angry. In other words NOT angry.

That woman is all but sincere; NOT sincere.

It's funny because 'all but' gets misused so much. I've seen / heard it used in newspapers, narratives and so forth as a synonym for "especially", in a sense. As you put it "all but sincere" would mean "very sincere". It boggles my mind, it's right there, all BUT! That negates it! Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

Really? Maybe that's why I'm so confused about its meaning... why can't people use correct grammar?!

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...

A better use of the word in that context would be to say "I've all but given up", meaning you're down to your very last hope, and there is nothing left to do but give up.
 
Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
The speaker is anything except for angry. In other words NOT angry.

That woman is all but sincere; NOT sincere.

It's funny because 'all but' gets misused so much. I've seen / heard it used in newspapers, narratives and so forth as a synonym for "especially", in a sense. As you put it "all but sincere" would mean "very sincere". It boggles my mind, it's right there, all BUT! That negates it! Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

Really? Maybe that's why I'm so confused about its meaning... why can't people use correct grammar?!

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...

A better use of the word in that context would be to say "I've all but given up", meaning you're down to your very last hope, and there is nothing left to do but give up.

Yeah, that's not too bad. "I've exhausted my options" or "I've run out of ideas" or "I'm on the verge of giving up" could work too.
 
Originally posted by: nerp
It's not really good style. A good editor would remove the tired usage and make it more clear.

She's all but sincere should be - she's not sincere. People often write with cliches and colloquisims because they think they sound fancy and it pads their writing. Unfortunatley, it just makes you a bad writer. 🙂

That depends on the type of writing and the audience. Colloquialisms are fine in a society column or for character dialogue in a novel. I'm sure there are other areas where such usage would be helpful in establishing a connection with one's readers as well.

As far as cliches are concerned, the whole reason that those phrases became cliches in the first place is that they provide an effective mental image for a layman. Using the phrase, "monkey see, monkey do" is often more effective than saying, "the subject engaged in the act of mimicry without understanding the underlying rationale behind the actions nor the potential consequences associated with said actions". The former is, of course, inappropriate in a scientific or scholarly work, but for explaining a situation to the majority of laymen the cliche is, in this case, a better choice than the "scientific" explanation.

While colloquialisms and cliches rely upon a shared cultural heritage for their effectiveness (and therefore are inappropriate when communicating to an audience which may not share the same cultural heritage), they remain valid literary techniques when used in moderation.

Back to the OP's initial question, the phrase, "all but" is typically used to denote the condition of being at the very brink of something. For example, a father might warn his disobedient teenager that he is, "all but ready to ground" the child. Such a warning would indicate that, if the child's intransigence persists, a grounding will occur, but that if the child backs down immediately the consequence can be avoided. Saying that someone is, "all but sincere" is to imply that, while the person is attempting to feign sincerity (and may indeed be fooling some people), the sincerity is not genuine.

ZV
 
Even though the literal meaning is different, people usually mean whatever follows the "all but...". For instance, if you say "I've all but given up on that" you essentially mean you've given up on it.
 
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: geno
Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...

😕

The 'glitters' version of this phrase is so long established as to be perfectly acceptable - especially as 'glisters' and 'glitters' mean the same thing and are essentially synonymous.

From here.
 
They can work in some situations, but I agree that moderation is key. Unfortunatley, in the vast majority of cases, the cliches are far too frequent. People use them as a crutch, or worse, they don't realize they're cliches. I've often read large blocks of text in which every single phrase is a cliche. I'd say that 99 percent of the time it's better to not use a cliche and come up with an original thought or expression. I agree that some cliches are effective at capturing an idea or expressing a common sentiment, but the overuse of cliches in language slowly erodes the effectiveness of the phrase. It's harder to find a succinct way to express a widely-understood feeling than to rely on the easy cliche.

Sportswriters are some of the worst at this. I know that writing about games is repetitive in nature and it's very hard to find unique ways to say "he hit a home run" or "it was a classic pitcher's duel" but some sportswriters seem to rely on the same tired cliches over and over.
 
Originally posted by: nerp
They can work in some situations, but I agree that moderation is key. Unfortunatley, in the vast majority of cases, the cliches are far too frequent. People use them as a crutch, or worse, they don't realize they're cliches. I've often read large blocks of text in which every single phrase is a cliche. I'd say that 99 percent of the time it's better to not use a cliche and come up with an original thought or expression. I agree that some cliches are effective at capturing an idea or expressing a common sentiment, but the overuse of cliches in language slowly erodes the effectiveness of the phrase. It's harder to find a succinct way to express a widely-understood feeling than to rely on the easy cliche.

Sportswriters are some of the worst at this. I know that writing about games is repetitive in nature and it's very hard to find unique ways to say "he hit a home run" or "it was a classic pitcher's duel" but some sportswriters seem to rely on the same tired cliches over and over.

As I pointed out though, and as you allude to in your second paragraph, there is a limit to the number of succinct ways to express an idea. Asking someone for a "ballpark figure" is a cliche, but it's also effectively guaranteed to be understood.

I agree that large blocks of cliches are terrible writing, but I believe that the problem is not that they are composed of cliches, but that they are large blocks of text. I can over-explain a scientific or philosophical concept with the best of them, but non-technical writing requires economy and this is where many writers fail. Cliches get used not for their concise description, but as a gingerbread to disguise muddled or unoriginal thoughts and it is this misuse, not the cliches themselves, that is the problem.

ZV
 
Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: geno
Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...

😕

The 'glitters' version of this phrase is so long established as to be perfectly acceptable - especially as 'glisters' and 'glitters' mean the same thing and are essentially synonymous.

From here.

Still wrong.

The proper construction is, "Not all that glitters is gold."

The construction, "all that glitters is not gold" actually claims that no glittering thing is gold (which leads to the ridiculous conclusion that gold must therefore not glitter). There is a world of difference between "all are not" and "not all are".

ZV
 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: geno
Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...

😕

The 'glitters' version of this phrase is so long established as to be perfectly acceptable - especially as 'glisters' and 'glitters' mean the same thing and are essentially synonymous.

From here.

Still wrong.

The proper construction is, "Not all that glitters is gold."

The construction, "all that glitters is not gold" actually claims that no glittering thing is gold (which leads to the ridiculous conclusion that gold must therefore not glitter). There is a world of difference between "all are not" and "not all are".

ZV

Exactly. The correct expression is "Not all that glitters is gold". That's why "All that glitters is not gold" sounds funny.
 
Originally posted by: kstu
Originally posted by: Arcadio
Originally posted by: geno
Oh well, I guess that one's up there with "I could care less" and "All that glitters is not gold" 😉

EDIT: lol at "All that glitters is not gold"...

😕

The 'glitters' version of this phrase is so long established as to be perfectly acceptable - especially as 'glisters' and 'glitters' mean the same thing and are essentially synonymous.

From here.

All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost; the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, a light from the shadows shall spring; renewed shall be blade that was broken, the crownless again shall be king.

Even Tolkien used "glitter", and he was a professor of languages.

Edit: oops, saw the other replies that the problem wasn't with the word glitter. Still, any thread is improved by a Tolkien quote.
 
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