What does "RTM" mean in banking?

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MotionMan

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My friend deposited a relatively large check at his bank last week. He received a notice from his bank in the mail today (Saturday) saying that a hold has been placed on the money and that the check *may* be returned. The letter says the following:


"Return Reason: RTM"


What does RTM mean?

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lozina

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Read The Manual ? RTFM!

edit: beat by mere seconds...

but how about...

Really Too Messy?

Rejected: Too Messy (does he have poor handwriting?)

Return To Manufacturer

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refer to maker : could be the check was rejected by the bank for insufficient funds.
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: RKS
refer to maker : could be the check was rejected by the bank for insufficient funds.

I thought this as well. But why wouldn't it just say NSF?

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: RKS
refer to maker : could be the check was rejected by the bank for insufficient funds.

I thought this as well. But why wouldn't it just say NSF?

MotionMan

Because it may not be NSF. There may well be funds to cover the check. Most likely since the OP said it was a large check, the bank suspects fraud and is refusing to cash it without further information.
 

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: RKS
refer to maker : could be the check was rejected by the bank for insufficient funds.

I thought this as well. But why wouldn't it just say NSF?

MotionMan

On the face of it, dealing with the words themselves means this check is no good and you'll have to find the maker to determine why it's no good. In banking language, however, it means this check is 99% sure to be a fraud, but the bank can't say so. NSF on the check can be disproven if the records show a good balance - but the officer knows the balance is false, and fraudulently inflated. So I can't put NSF on it. The signature agrees. "Funds subject to hold" means I better have some documentation to back me up. However, I may be taking action on nothing but a phone call And I'm in even more trouble if I put "suspected fraud" on the face of the check. So the catch-all - used by almost all financial institutions (particularly the very large ones) is "Refer to Maker".

If you can't find a good, standard reason to put on the check as the reason for return, and the reason you are returning it puts even more liability on the bank, then "Refer to Maker" is your answer.
 

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It also could be old checks with and old/invalid account, if it does get returned call the bank he wrote the check from.
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
It also could be old checks with and old/invalid account, if it does get returned call the bank he wrote the check from.

It was typed and signed by the proper person. The account has plenty of money. The only issue may be that the check number was out of order (I believe they used a new checkbook before the old one was used up).

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