what does "relaying not permitted" mean for email?

[dpopiz]

my friend has an email address at the university he works for and also gets dialup from them. when he connects through their dialup, it works fine. when he connects through the crappy sbc yahoo dsl he just got, he can receive mail on the university account, but not send it. when he tries to send mail, it says something about not allowing relaying....I think it was error 505 or something.

 

[Grey]

You can't use the mail.yahoo.com for non yahoo mail, adjust the account to be mail.college.edu or whatever it is.

 

[notfred]

It means that the server isn't going to send your email for you.

Here's how it works. Your friend connects to SBC, and has an SBC IP address. he tries to connect to the University mail server. The server sees his SBC IP address and says "Hmm, that's not one of my students, I'm not letting him send mail". They do this to prevent spamming. If you could just use anyone's mail server to send mail, you'd just use mail.microsoft.com and send a billion spam messages through their servers on their bandwidth.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

What notfred said. Tell him to use his dsl's pop3 server to relay his mail.

 

[bastula]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
What notfred said. Tell him to use his dsl's pop3 server to relay his mail.

I think you mean SMTP server. POP3 is for receiving mail. SMTP is for sending.

 

See if he can possibly authenticate himself to the SMTP server. It's an option in the "Accounts" menu in OE and Outlook and all other email programs.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: bastula

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
What notfred said. Tell him to use his dsl's pop3 server to relay his mail.

I think you mean SMTP server. POP3 is for receiving mail. SMTP is for sending.

Yeah, that's what I meant I'm surprised someone corrected me civilly

 

[bastula]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: bastula

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
What notfred said. Tell him to use his dsl's pop3 server to relay his mail.

I think you mean SMTP server. POP3 is for receiving mail. SMTP is for sending.

Yeah, that's what I meant I'm surprised someone corrected me civilly

Thanks - I've seen a lot of animosity on several boards lately. Not about to join in the party anytime soon.

 

[dpopiz]

well, using sbc's smtp server for the university account doesn't work because sbc's server doesn't even have that user on it. maybe I'm not understanding....I mean the username for the university account is on a university domain, so how could it work on sbc's domain?

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: dpopiz
well, using sbc's smtp server for the university account doesn't work because sbc's server doesn't even have that user on it. maybe I'm not understanding....I mean the username for the university account is on a university domain, so how could it work on sbc's domain?

When connected through sbc, you should be able to use their mail server to relay your other emails, including your school's. I use my dialup account to send my dialup email and my school email.

 

[dpopiz]

what do you mean by "relay"? I'm saying you can't put the sbc server in as the smtp server for the school email address because the school email address doesn't exist on sbc's server

 

[dpopiz]

bump

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: dpopiz
what do you mean by "relay"? I'm saying you can't put the sbc server in as the smtp server for the school email address because the school email address doesn't exist on sbc's server

Do it anyways. It will work as notfred explained above.

 

[dpopiz]

no I mean I did try it. it came back with a message saying the user doesn't exist on that domain. maybe I'm not understanding...could you explain in detail what you're suggesting?

 

[dpopiz]

bump

 

[bastula]

When using an ISP's SMTP server such as SBC or Comcast, they typically set it up so that you don't have to log in. Just remove the login settings and it should send fine. I use Comcast and it works the same way.