What does it mean to have a file that "bleeds built in"?

Syringer

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and for a file to be ready to print, including crop marks, etc.?

I'm asking on behalf of a friend, let's impress them with our great knowledge!
 

AbsolutDealage

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"bleeds" usually refers to the white space surrounding a photo. If the bleeds are built in, that means that the print size of the photo is larger than the actual cut size of the paper. That way, the final product "bleeds"... that is to say that the photo goes all the way to the edge of the paper on all sides.
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: Syringer
and for a file to be ready to print, including crop marks, etc.?

I'm asking on behalf of a friend, let's impress them with our great knowledge!


A bleed is a printed border. A press cant print exactly to the edge and if you try it will print part of the bleed on the back of some of the pages due to press registration ( the ability of the press to print in exactly the same spot everytime ) SO If you bave a border it will be printed near the edge then the unprinted area will be cut off make it appear as though the printing had been done all the way to the edge.

Crop marks are where the sheet will be cut. Business cards are generally printed 4 up on a 5.5x8.5 sheet and are centered. The crops would be on the outer edge and marking each card, so 6 crop marks for business cards.

Is that clear or just confusing?
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
"bleeds" usually refers to the white space surrounding a photo. If the bleeds are built in, that means that the print size of the photo is larger than the actual cut size of the paper. That way, the final product "bleeds"... that is to say that the photo goes all the way to the edge of the paper on all sides.

I think hes asking about printing, not photos

 

AbsolutDealage

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
"bleeds" usually refers to the white space surrounding a photo. If the bleeds are built in, that means that the print size of the photo is larger than the actual cut size of the paper. That way, the final product "bleeds"... that is to say that the photo goes all the way to the edge of the paper on all sides.

I think hes asking about printing, not photos

Yea, I kind of assumed in my reply that he knew this was used in relation to some kind of professional printing. I've only ever heard the term in relation to photos being printed and cut to size, but obviously it applies to press printing as a whole.

You had a better explanation anyways.
 

drinkmorejava

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Wow, I learned something on ATOT. Should I be surprised the world hasn't collapsed in on itself?
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Originally posted by: jdini76
how about "double truck no gutter"

Double Truck

The gutter refers to a printed line that would be in the middle of a 2 page spread.

Thats not correct. They are actually referring to sigs and a gutter is any unprinted vertical area between blocks of text. I suppose its possible to have different terminolgy for newspaper production printing and custom shops though.

Ive had quite a few discussions about whether its "set off" or "off set" when talkin about stacks being to high and getting printing on the back of stuff.
 

jdini76

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Originally posted by: jdini76
how about "double truck no gutter"

Double Truck

The gutter refers to a printed line that would be in the middle of a 2 page spread.

Thats not correct. They are actually referring to sigs and a gutter is any unprinted vertical area between blocks of text. I suppose its possible to have different terminolgy for newspaper production printing and custom shops though.

Ive had quite a few discussions about whether its "set off" or "off set" when talkin about stacks being to high and getting printing on the back of stuff.

In my reference it is the area in the middle of the page for newpaper.