What does Christianity have to do with gun control?

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Cerb
Gun control. The emphasis is where it's at. Fear and control are the main parts of what Fundies are and do (and why many other Christians can't even stand them). Freedom is in direct opposition to control, and eventually in opposition to fear (though this requires more time and work, as we must begin to overcome those fears programmed into us, and then the fears we are born with as animals).

One of the greatest fears we have is that of the unknown. In this case, to not be a blind follower of sect A. Those people not part of sect A, or at least not compatible with sect A's beliefs, are feared and hated. Even worse, these outsiders are often pitied.

How can those that are feared, hated, and pathetic, be allowed to wield means of death and suffering? That is the duty of the chosen. Sect A has direction, purpose, and an agenda. It is their place to guide the pitiful of the world. After all, with God on their side, they are definitely going to responsible with those firearms.

This then follows directly into Rainsford's post:

Well, the supposed "connection" is that far right fundies are for personal freedom and individual rights, including gun ownership. Nothing could be farther from the truth. They don't believe in gun ownership because they believe in individual rights. They believe in gun ownership because they want to own guns. They are libertarians when it comes to themselves, and authoritarians when it comes to anyone who disagrees with them.

THAT is the connection.

God forbid (pun intended) children be allowed to grow up in a safe and [at least socially] free environment.

Disarming our nation and creating a society of victims is going to make them safe in what way? 9/11 wouldn't have succeeded had our population not had to listen to the liberal mantra of "When a craft is highjacked, keep your head down, do not challenge the highjackers, be passive and do not anger them. Submit to them and you will surivie." That was wrong and the degree of wrong was proven on 9/11. You eat a lot of dirt when crawling on your belly! The key to being a strong nation lies in individual strength and group psychology just won't get the job done!

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[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Cerb
Gun control. The emphasis is where it's at. Fear and control are the main parts of what Fundies are and do (and why many other Christians can't even stand them). Freedom is in direct opposition to control, and eventually in opposition to fear (though this requires more time and work, as we must begin to overcome those fears programmed into us, and then the fears we are born with as animals).

One of the greatest fears we have is that of the unknown. In this case, to not be a blind follower of sect A. Those people not part of sect A, or at least not compatible with sect A's beliefs, are feared and hated. Even worse, these outsiders are often pitied.

How can those that are feared, hated, and pathetic, be allowed to wield means of death and suffering? That is the duty of the chosen. Sect A has direction, purpose, and an agenda. It is their place to guide the pitiful of the world. After all, with God on their side, they are definitely going to responsible with those firearms.

This then follows directly into Rainsford's post:

Well, the supposed "connection" is that far right fundies are for personal freedom and individual rights, including gun ownership. Nothing could be farther from the truth. They don't believe in gun ownership because they believe in individual rights. They believe in gun ownership because they want to own guns. They are libertarians when it comes to themselves, and authoritarians when it comes to anyone who disagrees with them.

THAT is the connection.

God forbid (pun intended) children be allowed to grow up in a safe and [at least socially] free environment.

Disarming our nation and creating a society of victims is going to make them safe in what way? (snip)

It's not. If every kind going into middle school were required to get a hunting license (which, in most states, is basically a safety course), and possibly learn to actually use a firearm, we'd be quite well off, and pretty safe. I can't imagine accidental gun injuries not going severely down.

9/11 wouldn't have succeeded had our population not had to listen to the liberal mantra of "When a craft is highjacked, keep your head down, do not challenge the highjackers, be passive and do not anger them. Submit to them and you will surivie." That was wrong and the degree of wrong was proven on 9/11. You eat a lot of dirt when crawling on your belly! The key to being a strong nation lies in individual strength and group psychology just won't get the job done!

...yet that still doesn't stop useless airport checks and wasted press time on such BS; even though the problem at hand was fixed before the fourth plane hit its target.