what does a engineer technician and webpage designer do?

[Semidevil]

so like all college students, I am looking for a job.

Here are 2 that I found. the first one is titled "Engineering Technician" by MetCo. descriptions include making concrete cylinders, testing soil in field and lab.

Does anyone have any idea on the job? Like, is it doing work in lab, or is it more like grunt work? I prefer paper/pencil, computer, and/or staying in lab doing experiemens...those type of things...what do they mean by "making cylinders"? like, using a big truck of cement?

what kind of job enviornment is this?

Then, there is job 2. which is webpage designer for NextTel. Now, the requirements include "webpage design experience, java, html, and php. I have my own webpage, so I know the basics of making webpags. I took java in college(but I really suck at it), I know html fairly well, and I dotn know php.

I would like to apply, but I dont know if I qualify...it sounds like something I would like to do......

What do webpage designers do? I mean, will I actually need to use Java to write programs?

 

[rasholianmon]

yeah... you write webpages... duh...

 

[Mo0o]

Seems like you would be more qualified for the first one.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Um, you're obviously not qualified for Webpage Designer.

 

[777php]

The webpage designer will probably require that you know JSP, and if you don't know that much I wouldn't even think about applying for that job.

 

[thirdlegstump]

You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

 

[cerebusPu]

Originally posted by: deathkoba
You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

stuff like guestbooks and counters can be found on the internet. theres no need to program any of that.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: deathkoba
You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

You're being sarcastic, right? Right?

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Seems like you would be more qualified for the first one.

Unless he has appropriate national certifications for the testing he will be doing then he is NOT qualified for the first job.

 

[thirdlegstump]

Originally posted by: cerebusPu

Originally posted by: deathkoba
You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

stuff like guestbooks and counters can be found on the internet. theres no need to program any of that.

Really? I had no idea. So you just download it and upload it to your ftp?

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: cerebusPu

Originally posted by: deathkoba
You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

stuff like guestbooks and counters can be found on the internet. theres no need to program any of that.

Really? I had no idea. So you just download it and upload it to your ftp?

Yes, there are plenty of services that simply produce a code for you to tack on into your page

 

[thirdlegstump]

how do you just tack on your page a code? just copy paste into your browser and hit save or something?

 

[cerebusPu]

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: cerebusPu

Originally posted by: deathkoba
You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

stuff like guestbooks and counters can be found on the internet. theres no need to program any of that.

Really? I had no idea. So you just download it and upload it to your ftp?

just to use the OP's site as an example....
right click on his counter and you can see that its from this site.
http://www.e-zeeinternet.com/
"100% free counters"

the bottom of the guestbook page has a link to the http://www.freebieguestbooks.com/

"In minutes you can enjoy your own free guestbook with no messy installations or special hosting requirements needed.
We do it all for you, FREE!"

good stuff for personal webpages....

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Seems like you would be more qualified for the first one.

Unless he has appropriate national certifications for the testing he will be doing then he is NOT qualified for the first job.

Can't he be a technician? He can help out a scientists by help collecting samples and running simple tests on them. I mean, i do some testing of transgenic genes in mice and i dont have a BS in anything yet.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: 777php
The webpage designer will probably require that you know JSP, and if you don't know that much I wouldn't even think about applying for that job.

huh? I didnt see anything in the OP about JSP. you know theres lots of other languages you can program for the web in, you know like PHP, ASP, VB.Net, C#.Net, Perl, Cold Fusion, etc.

And jeeze, reading some of the other responses on here... wtf I thought this was a computer website, has ATOT gotten that ignorant when it comes to computers?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

<-- engineering tech

An engineering technician does all the stuff the engineers are overqualified to do. Or the stuff they just don't want to do.

 

[thirdlegstump]

Originally posted by: cerebusPu

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: cerebusPu

Originally posted by: deathkoba
You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

stuff like guestbooks and counters can be found on the internet. theres no need to program any of that.

Really? I had no idea. So you just download it and upload it to your ftp?

just to use the OP's site as an example....
right click on his counter and you can see that its from this site.
http://www.e-zeeinternet.com/
"100% free counters"

the bottom of the guestbook page has a link to the http://www.freebieguestbooks.com/

"In minutes you can enjoy your own free guestbook with no messy installations or special hosting requirements needed.
We do it all for you, FREE!"

good stuff for personal webpages....

Dude, this stuff doesn't do anything. It didn't work. I clicked on make counter button and it did nothing.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

lmao at his guestbook!

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Seems like you would be more qualified for the first one.

Unless he has appropriate national certifications for the testing he will be doing then he is NOT qualified for the first job.

Can't he be a technician? He can help out a scientists by help collecting samples and running simple tests on them. I mean, i do some testing of transgenic genes in mice and i dont have a BS in anything yet.

Soil, concrete and other material testing is not running simple tests on mice. The testing procedures are ASTM specifications and you MUST be qualified to run the tests by the appropriate agency for the company to be reputable. The soil testing can be as simple as running a soil cone, or as involved as calculating procters and running a troxler nuclear density gauge. Some of the lab specific tests may not require certification of the individual (any idiot can run a sieve test or compression test on concrete cylinders) but I would be suprissed if that's all they want when advertising for a tech.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Mo0o
Seems like you would be more qualified for the first one.

Unless he has appropriate national certifications for the testing he will be doing then he is NOT qualified for the first job.

Can't he be a technician? He can help out a scientists by help collecting samples and running simple tests on them. I mean, i do some testing of transgenic genes in mice and i dont have a BS in anything yet.

Soil, concrete and other material testing is not running simple tests on mice. The testing procedures are ASTM specifications and you MUST be qualified to run the tests by the appropriate agency for the company to be reputable. The soil testing can be as simple as running a soil cone, or as involved as calculating procters and running a troxler nuclear density gauge. Some of the lab specific tests may not require certification of the individual (any idiot can run a sieve test or compression test on concrete cylinders) but I would be suprissed if that's all they want when advertising for a tech.

he didn't list any requirements so im guessing it cn't be too complicated

 

[Semidevil]

the thing is that they didnt list any requirements...the only thing that say is that I have to be able to work for a minimum of 4hour blocks. that's all.

so what is the nature of the job? anyone know? is it like, indoor work doing analysis, and computer stuff, or is it like doing hard labor?

 

[Semidevil]

just to update: I set up an interview tommorow. I dont know guys. I mean, the place is 45 minutes away from me, and I dont know if it is worth it. I want to do it, as long as it can mean a career for me. I want to do mostly indoor work, and if this "engineer tech" involves getting hands dirty, wearing hard hat, and doing hard work, I dont want to do it....

 

[777php]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: 777php
The webpage designer will probably require that you know JSP, and if you don't know that much I wouldn't even think about applying for that job.

huh? I didnt see anything in the OP about JSP. you know theres lots of other languages you can program for the web in, you know like PHP, ASP, VB.Net, C#.Net, Perl, Cold Fusion, etc.

And jeeze, reading some of the other responses on here... wtf I thought this was a computer website, has ATOT gotten that ignorant when it comes to computers?

Really! You can program in PHP for the web?

*looks at username*

 

[yoda291]

You could prolly pick up the first job pretty quickly. Sounds a lot like construction tech. If I remember the job right, Essentially, you hammer a machine called a nuke into the ground, get readings and write report. It's called a nuke because it sends some really wacky radiation into the ground.

The thing about going for a position as a web designer is really just the most glaringly obvious question. If you're applying to be a web designer, you should know design (layout, color theory, information flow, eye flow, etc). I don't know who started the whole problem of smashing the titles together, but web designer and developer are two completely different things.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: deathkoba

Originally posted by: cerebusPu

Originally posted by: deathkoba
You guys are a bit too harsh on the guy. I think he's a great website developer. Have you seen his site? It takes quite a bit of work to wite a guestbook like that. Also the counter isn't something you can easily program either. The first job seems like something anyone can do so I guess you're qualified enough for it already. What are your credentials at the moment?

stuff like guestbooks and counters can be found on the internet. theres no need to program any of that.

Really? I had no idea. So you just download it and upload it to your ftp?

lol.





As for the OP, get real man. You are a college student. You should know this already.

The position of Engineering Technician requires an Engineering technican degree. It is like an associates in engineering degree incomparison. As my annoying Eng. teacher would say, "E Technicians are the ones who maintain and test what the engineers make."I should know...I tutor a E. Technican in math


Anyways, as for the webpage designer for Nextel, they will eat you alive during the interview. They will be expecting some proof-of-competance in addition to examples of your work. To get a job making webpages for decent money, I have found that you need to know html as if the code is reverent, jsp, asp, perl, php and a whole lot of other stuff.

You my friend, need to get with the program. Everything you have written screams "novice" and it would be in your best interests to learn more about finding jobs. I am by no meanstryign to disuade you or discourage you from finding a job in a technical field. I was once like you, but I was forced to realize that I was jsut wasting everyone's time.

Read, learn, implement = profit