What do you use to clean your car?

Mr N8

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Here's the car I'm talking about...the pic is for reference to cleaning the wheels. Civic

I'm looking for something to do a good cleanup of the wheels. All those spokes will make for a detailed job. They are currently off of the car, since I picked up some cheap wheels to put snow tires on them. I am considering Sonus P21S Gel Wheel Cleaner, but I'm wondering what others use that works well.

The other thing that bugs me is how dirty the shift boot gets. I don't eat in my car, but that thing still seems to be able to collect dirt dust more than any other part of the car. It's a leather shift boot. Any recommendations for cleaners, tools, or technique on keeping that clean?

Thanks.
 

zoiks

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Buy Zaino products. People online swear by it. I was looking around for these but you can't find em in the store.

Check reviews on it on google by doing a search.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Buy Zaino products. People online swear by it. I was looking around for these but you can't find em in the store.

Check reviews on it on google by doing a search.

Zaino is a waste, IMHO. It's definately a diminishing return on investment compared to Meguiars and others. Sure, it cleans well and makes the paint shiny and wet in appearance, but so does the stuff that costs 1/3 the price.
 

Jzero

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I just vacuum the boot.
For the wheels, I just use a brush and car wash solution. Those spokes aren't that hard to clean...from your description I was picturing those wire rims with hundreds of tiny spokes.
 

j00fek

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simple green, pink stuff cleaner. i just use a hard brisseld brush to clean my wheels. they usually come out nice and clean.

as for the shift cover i too have a civic with the same thing. i have the same prob cant keep it clean for more than 3-5days. guess we might have to deal with it :p
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: zoiks
Buy Zaino products. People online swear by it. I was looking around for these but you can't find em in the store.

Check reviews on it on google by doing a search.

Zaino is a waste, IMHO. It's definately a diminishing return on investment compared to Meguiars and others. Sure, it cleans well and makes the paint shiny and wet in appearance, but so does the stuff that costs 1/3 the price.

I must strenuously disagree. I've used Zaino exclusively for five years now and it is consistently the best product I've ever seen.

What I've also seen is that most of the people who claim it isn't all it's cracked up to be, are the same people who fail to properly prep their car before trying to put the shine on. They are quick to knock the product because they improperly use it. Truth be told, proper prepwork will make even cheap wax look good, but Zaino is consistently on top of the game. The Wax Guru magazine has consistently shown Zaino to be the #1 shine, test after test. Zaino leaves no white residues, repels water better, lasts longer, and doesn't discolor the shine like anything with carnauba wax will.

Zaino takes more work to apply. It's for the true enthusiasts. For anyone just looking to use it like any other off-the-shelf wax, it will disappoint and it's not for you. If you just wash your car, dry it off, then apply a wax... Zaino is not for you. It is aimed at people who take car care seriously, and who are willing to go the extra mile to get maximum shine. it's for people who strip off any old wax, throughly clay-bar the paint, rub out any swirls, and start fresh with the cleanest possible finish. Do this first and any wax will shine brighter, but Zaino will be the brightest. Put Zaino on a poorly prepped surface and it will not look any different than Meguiars or Mothers.

The other big problem with Zaino complaints is that it's a waste of money. A lot of people use WAY too much! This stuff is designed to be applied as thin as possible. I can make an 8-oz. bottle provide 24-32 coats on my TRUCK. That's right... 3-4 coats per ounce. All you need.

On to the OP, regarding wheels the best cleaner is usually soap and water. THose heavy-duty spray on wheel cleaners can be harsh on some metals and arent usually necessary unless your wheels are horridly filthy. Blue Coral makes an outstanding wheel polish (I think they still make it) that comes in a little 2-inch jar. It's a periwinkle-colored cream. It will leave a nice shine and help repel brake dust and such from sticking. Also, if the wheels are clear-coated you can slap your usual car wax on them as well. They even will benefit from the regular use of Quick Detailer. Given the shape of your rims and spokes, you could also get one of those Dashboard California car dusters and use it solely for cleaning the rims between washings.

Edit: Regarding shift boots, use a non-silicone based protectant (this means NO Armor-All!). I recommend 303 Aerospace protectant, which is available at boating supply stores and pilot supply stores (usually). It contains a very strong sunblock, doesn't have a blinding shine and is, I think, the best product for most interior vinyl. If you have leather boots, it'll still work but you could also try Lexol.

For getting into the nooks and crannies of the boot, dip a Q-tip in your cleaner of choice and use that. SOmetimes I even remove the shift boot to remove junk that is out of reach of the Q-tip.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: zoiks
Buy Zaino products. People online swear by it. I was looking around for these but you can't find em in the store.

Check reviews on it on google by doing a search.

Zaino is a waste, IMHO. It's definately a diminishing return on investment compared to Meguiars and others. Sure, it cleans well and makes the paint shiny and wet in appearance, but so does the stuff that costs 1/3 the price.

Not to mention the amount of time you need to invest in getting the multiple coats of product on your car. I don't think it looks any better than the results I've obtained with Meguiars.

<--Been using Meguiars for 16 years on various cars I've owned. Zaino is a waste of time and money.
 

Soccerman06

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No point in cleaning wheels in the middle of winter, wheres theres salty and sandy water everywhere.
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: zoiks
Buy Zaino products. People online swear by it. I was looking around for these but you can't find em in the store.

Check reviews on it on google by doing a search.

Zaino is a waste, IMHO. It's definately a diminishing return on investment compared to Meguiars and others. Sure, it cleans well and makes the paint shiny and wet in appearance, but so does the stuff that costs 1/3 the price.

Not to mention the amount of time you need to invest in getting the multiple coats of product on your car. I don't think it looks any better than the results I've obtained with Meguiars.

<--Been using Meguiars for 16 years on various cars I've owned. Zaino is a waste of time and money.

Some Meguiars stuff is really, really, good. Some of it is complete crap. I personally don't like Zaino, but that's not because of the price...I simply find other products tend to produce a more favorable result. I use Klasse products for wax and sealant...I also use a Porter-Cable to apply the wax...I get beautiful results.

The "money" arguement cracks me up. All you guys spend thousands of $$$ on a car and you're bitching and moaning over an extra $10-15 when it comes to what wax to use.

OP- Go to www.autopia.org, click on the Forums link, and research.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: zoiks
Buy Zaino products. People online swear by it. I was looking around for these but you can't find em in the store.

Check reviews on it on google by doing a search.

Zaino is a waste, IMHO. It's definately a diminishing return on investment compared to Meguiars and others. Sure, it cleans well and makes the paint shiny and wet in appearance, but so does the stuff that costs 1/3 the price.

Not to mention the amount of time you need to invest in getting the multiple coats of product on your car. I don't think it looks any better than the results I've obtained with Meguiars.

<--Been using Meguiars for 16 years on various cars I've owned. Zaino is a waste of time and money.

Some Meguiars stuff is really, really, good. Some of it is complete crap. I personally don't like Zaino, but that's not because of the price...I simply find other products tend to produce a more favorable result. I use Klasse products for wax and sealant...I also use a Porter-Cable to apply the wax...I get beautiful results.

The "money" arguement cracks me up. All you guys spend thousands of $$$ on a car and you're bitching and moaning over an extra $10-15 when it comes to what wax to use.

OP- Go to www.autopia.org, click on the Forums link, and research.

I'm not above spending money on a decent product and I am meticulous about cleaning my cars but I'm not into spending 8 hours on a Saturday cleaning, prepping and applying multiple layers of Zaino to achieve the same results 2-3 hours and Meguiars would give. I use their professional paint cleaner (if necessary) showcar glaze, and follow that up with a coat of their best wax.

I don't care what a bunch of amateurs on a forum have to say about the product. I post on a few automotive forums and there are some very knowledgeable people there who state that Zaino isn't worth the time invested...at least as many as those who purport that is the best.
 

Mr N8

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
No point in cleaning wheels in the middle of winter, wheres theres salty and sandy water everywhere.

Read my post. The wheels are not on the car right now. :roll:


Thanks to those with good advice. I'll start with soap and water and see if I need to go from there. The Q-tip advice for the shift boot sounds good. It may end up being too tedious for how quickly it will be dirty again, though.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Mr N8
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
No point in cleaning wheels in the middle of winter, wheres theres salty and sandy water everywhere.

Read my post. The wheels are not on the car right now. :roll:


Thanks to those with good advice. I'll start with soap and water and see if I need to go from there. The Q-tip advice for the shift boot sounds good. It may end up being too tedious for how quickly it will be dirty again, though.

From a BMW site (a car known for producing excessive amounts of brake dust) try using Griot's Garage Wheel Cleaner:

First, you will need to wet your wheels with a spray of water. Remember to do this in the shade, as you want to keep the surface of the wheels wet through the entire process. Then, spray on the Wheel Cleaner on your wheels, remembering to get the inside of the wheels. Less is more, so don't over-do it. Move on to the next wheel and do the same. By this time (about a minute or two), you can go back to your first wheel and with the Boar's Hair brush (or other similar, non-scratching yet stiff brush) agitate the wet surface to lather up the cleaners and the brake dust should easy break loose. The trick is reaching the inside of the wheels, through the spokes. For this, I use the 3-finger mitt which allows me to reach through the spokes without getting my hands cut up on the disc brake covers and metal parts around the brakes. After all the brake dust is loose, a quick rinse with a stream of water will leave a nice, shiny wheel. It's really that simple!

For easier cleaning, I recommend waxing your alloy wheels, about 4 times a year depending on your driving style and mileage. It will also lessen the amount of brake dust wanting to cling on to your wheels, as well as protect your wheels from the elements. I use the same wax I use on my car paint to wax my wheels (Griot's Garage Best of Show Wax).
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: zoiks
Buy Zaino products. People online swear by it. I was looking around for these but you can't find em in the store.

Check reviews on it on google by doing a search.

Zaino is a waste, IMHO. It's definately a diminishing return on investment compared to Meguiars and others. Sure, it cleans well and makes the paint shiny and wet in appearance, but so does the stuff that costs 1/3 the price.

Not to mention the amount of time you need to invest in getting the multiple coats of product on your car. I don't think it looks any better than the results I've obtained with Meguiars.

<--Been using Meguiars for 16 years on various cars I've owned. Zaino is a waste of time and money.

Some Meguiars stuff is really, really, good. Some of it is complete crap. I personally don't like Zaino, but that's not because of the price...I simply find other products tend to produce a more favorable result. I use Klasse products for wax and sealant...I also use a Porter-Cable to apply the wax...I get beautiful results.

The "money" arguement cracks me up. All you guys spend thousands of $$$ on a car and you're bitching and moaning over an extra $10-15 when it comes to what wax to use.

OP- Go to www.autopia.org, click on the Forums link, and research.

I'm not above spending money on a decent product and I am meticulous about cleaning my cars but I'm not into spending 8 hours on a Saturday cleaning, prepping and applying multiple layers of Zaino to achieve the same results 2-3 hours and Meguiars would give. I use their professional paint cleaner (if necessary) showcar glaze, and follow that up with a coat of their best wax.

I don't care what a bunch of amateurs on a forum have to say about the product. I post on a few automotive forums and there are some very knowledgeable people there who state that Zaino isn't worth the time invested...at least as many as those who purport that is the best.

Zaino is worth the time invested if you're lazy (like me). It lasts a LONG time in bad conditions. On a black car in the Nevada summer sun, it can still last for months, whereas carnuba based waxes stop beading to the same level within two weeks. In these kind of conditions, synthetics (Zaino, Meguires NXT, Klasse, etc) are the only way to go.