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jabamayne

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Hispanics now one-seventh of U.S. population

WASHINGTON - One of every seven people in the United States is Hispanic, a record number that probably will keep rising because of immigration and a birth rate outstripping that of non-Hispanic blacks and whites.

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The country?s largest minority group accounted for one-half of the overall population growth of 2.9 million between July 2003 and July 2004, according to a Census Bureau report being released Thursday.

The agency estimated there are 41.3 million Hispanics in the United States. The bureau does not ask people about their legal status; that number is intended to include both legal and other residents.

The population growth for Asians ran a close second. Increases in both groups are due largely to immigration, but also higher birth rates, said Lewis W. Goodman, an American University expert on U.S.-Latin American relations.

?If we didn?t have those elements, we would be moving into a situation like Japan and Europe ... where the populations are graying in a way that is very alarming and endangering their productivity and endangering even their social security systems,? he said.

Most immigrants to the United States tend to arrive in their 20s, when many people have children. A far greater percentage of whites than Hispanics is 65 or older; the opposite is true of those under 18.

Immigration a heated issue
Immigration has become a volatile issue in Congress and border states, as well as in Georgia and other places where there has been a surge in new arrivals. Critics say lax enforcement of immigration laws has allowed millions of people to enter the U.S. illegally, take jobs from legal residents and drain social services.

The Hispanic growth rate for the 12 months starting July 2003 was 3.6 percent, compared with the overall population growth of 1 percent.

The growth rate was 3.4 percent for Asians, 1.7 percent for native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders, 1.3 percent for blacks, 1 percent for American Indians and Alaska natives, and 0.8 percent for whites.

That meant that at the beginning of July last year, the population was an estimated 294 million, with the following racial and ethnic breakdown: 240 million whites, 39.2 million blacks, 14 million Asians, 4.4 million native Indians and Alaskans, and 980,000 native Hawaiians and other islanders.

The numbers for all races and ethnic groups do not add up to the total because 4.4 million people listed themselves as having more than one race.

?Different face? of America
The Census Bureau counts ?Hispanic? or ?Latino? as an ethnicity rather than a race, so Hispanics can be of any race. The population of non-Hispanic whites indicating no other race increased just 0.3 percent in the past year, to 197.8 million.

?Looking toward the future, we see a different face of the U.S. population,? said Audrey Singer, an immigration and census specialist at the Brookings Institution. ?But I don?t think that?s necessarily new. It?s a confirmation that this hasn?t stopped or changed much.?

The size of the Hispanic population and, to a lesser extent, the Asian population, rose in nearly every state over the 1990s. Also, the Census Bureau projected last year that whites and minority groups overall would be roughly equal in size by 2050.

?Sometimes this is portrayed as a problem for the United States ? that the ethnic composition of the country is changing and that new people are coming to take jobs,? said Goodman, dean of American University?s School of International Service.

?My view is just the opposite: increased fertility of young people makes the (social) structure one that is more sustaining of economic production and enables older people to be in a culture where their retirements can be financed.?

The Census Bureau estimates population change using annual data on births, deaths and international migration.



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What do you think?

I think it's a good thing because of all the economic benefits...

Though I would say that our government needs to up it's enforcement of immigration laws and protect our borders from those who come illegally...
 

jabamayne

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No, and all the illegal immigrants should be deported.


Yes, I do agree that all the illegal immigrants should be deported...

If a Hispanic immigrant wants to come to the U.S., they should come the legal way like everybody else.
 

Nomada

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Label all you don't know as Terrorists and the World will be bettre off(didn't siphon for content). All I'm Saying is that everyone has a face and most people can't bluff.
 

Philippine Mango

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while this belongs in P&N, I will comment anyways. I'm perfectly fine with immigrants comming into the united states and hearing these stupid mexicans b!tch about arnold shwarzenegger not liking immigrants is so f*cking annoying. You can come into this country but in order to do so, you need to do it like the rest of us did (like my grandfather did).
 

jabamayne

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Yea, I'm sorry for not posting it over in P&N...Im half sleep and wasn't really thinking when I posted the thread... Sorry people.. my mistake.
 

Chode Messiah

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Originally posted by: jabamayne
Yea, I'm sorry for not posting it over in P&N...Im half sleep and wasn't really thinking when I posted the thread... Sorry people.. my mistake.

it's ok, just blame it on the damn illegal immigrants.
 

compuwiz1

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I have no problem with immigrants coming in "legally". It is totally American to accept them, as most americans have immigrant ancestry.

People coming here illegally, then making lots of kids, finally expecting our welfare system to support them, just p!sses me off to no end.
After the first born kid, I think illegals need to be reprimanded, told that they cannot do this. If they persist, fsckin sterilize them. :|

I have seen the AFDC check amounts. Did you know, that someone with 6 kids makes more on welfare than most college grads with 2 kids? Not to mention the section 8 rental sudsidy and food stamps. Our system is getting scammed daily, but yet we let it go on!

Recently we had a [ ] woman on our showroom buying a highline car. I won't mention race, as I don't want to get into that. She had 7 separate check stubs from Social Security, for $980 each! That was her proof of income. Secondly, she was only paying $215 rent for a large 5 bedroom house, plus she was getting another $1200 per month for her own subsistence! Do the math. This is crazy!

Oh, and where's daddy?
Which one, was her response, then she went on to try and explain that this one came from this guy, who she got pregnant with in H.S., then the others she had not seen in many years. This gal is only 28 years old! :Q
 

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I have no problem with immigrants coming in "legally". It is totally American to accept them, as most americans have immigrant ancestry.

People coming here illegally, then making lots of kids, finally expecting our welfare system to support them, just p!sses me off to no end.
After the first born kid, I think illegals need to be reprimanded, told that they cannot do this. If they persist, fsckin sterilize them. :|

I have seen the AFDC check amounts. Did you know, that someone with 6 kids makes more on welfare than most college grads with 2 kids? Not to mention the section 8 rental sudsidy and food stamps. Our system is getting scammed daily, but yet we let it go on!

Recently we had a [ ] woman on our showroom buying a highline car. I won't mention race, as I don't want to get into that. She had 7 separate check stubs from Social Security, for $980 each! That was her proof of income. Secondly, she was only paying $215 rent for a large 5 bedroom house, plus she was getting another $1200 per month for her own subsistence! Do the math. This is crazy!

Yeah, I agree it is unfair, but dang that's a lot of money.
 

Chode Messiah

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I have no problem with immigrants coming in "legally". It is totally American to accept them, as most americans have immigrant ancestry.

People coming here illegally, then making lots of kids, finally expecting our welfare system to support them, just p!sses me off to no end.
After the first born kid, I think illegals need to be reprimanded, told that they cannot do this. If they persist, fsckin sterilize them. :|

I have seen the ADFC check amounts. Did you know, that someone with 6 kids makes more on welfare than most college grads with 2 kids? Not to mention the section 8 rental sudsidy and food stamps. Our system is getting scammed daily, but yet we let it go on!

Recently we had a [ ] woman on our showroom buying a highline car. I won't mention race, as I don't want to get into that. She had 7 separate check stubs from Social Security, for $980 each! That was her proof of income. Secondly, she was only paying $215 rent for a large 5 bedroom house, plus she was getting another $1200 per month for her own subsistence! Do the math. This is crazy!

that's what im sayin, 11,000,000 crossed last year wtf is up with that?!! And 33% of walmarts employees were illegals.that is whack. We need a great wall of the U.S. of A
 

compuwiz1

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hispanic girls = hawt

I agree, but..

I'd rather go there (mexico) on vacation and get that, rather than let them run our borders the way they have.

At the numbers we have seen, exponentially, they could bankrupt this country within 10 years. I'm certain some people, who are far more powerful than any of us, know this and have the sane concerns, but why is it allowed?
 

jabamayne

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
hispanic girls = hawt

I agree, but..

I'd rather go there (mexico) on vacation and get that, rather than let them run our borders the way they have.

At the numbers we have seen, exponentially, they could bankrupt this country within 10 years. I'm certain some people, who are far more powerful than any of us, know this and have the sane concerns, but why is it allowed?


It boggles my mind why it is allowed...
 
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if people like the way we run things here and want to be a productive member of society i dont see the problem
 

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I have no problem with immigrants coming in "legally". It is totally American to accept them, as most americans have immigrant ancestry.

All Americans (unless you're native) have immigrant ancestry. Same with Canadians. It is the way our countries developed, and to stop the flow because of whites becoming outnumbered is just silly racial fear.