what do you think your opposing political party will look like in 10 years?

brianmanahan

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will it have made some concessions and become more centric, or become even more polarized? or will it even exist in its current form? or something else entirely?
 

Starbuck1975

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I think there is going to be a realignment. The GOP has swung too far right and its implosion will shift things around ideologically.

Once social conservatives get past the race thing, they will ironically find common ground with the more recent immigration waves.

As automation and AI increases, you may see a labor movement grow amongst some segments of white collar labor.

There will be a higher demand for democratic socialism, which if executed poorly, will trigger a counter movement of social conservatism.

There will be friction between environmental groups and champions of housing for the working class.

Rich people will continue to restrict beach access however.
 

cytg111

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MMmmmm depends on whether you manage to kick Putin out of the white house and congress.

If you do, less polarized, cause whatever comes next will have the markings of a full frontal sledgehammer to the face as a reminder that the nation needs healing, fox will need to be dealt with, same with breitbart etc.

If you dont, less polarized, cause whatever polar will get squashed by free falls from tall buildings...It is gonna be the new way of business.


edit : you also have to deal with this kind of shit
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ke-news-as-long-as-it-doesnt-cause-real-harm/
 
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I don't really know. We have a serious cancer infecting us right now. The free press, career officials with loyalty to our country over party and the truth are the chemo needed to drive it out. But we don't know if it's ultimately going to work. We could send it into remission. Or it could further metastasize and overtake our country and spread to others.

Ultimately I think we're going to have to do a reboot to the Constitution and the two party system. The ever growing polarization is going to break us apart. We'll need to figure out some way to embrace additional parties at a federal level to allow all people to have some form of a voice. I have no idea if that is 3 parties, 4 parties or 8. But they will basically function as caucuses that will have to cooperate with others to pass real legislation. I think 10 years is too soon for that to happen, but at 40 years old, I would not be surprised to see it in my lifetime.
 

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I don't know if the US will be recognizable in a decade so I certainly haven't a clue as to the political state of the union. The current system cannot survive under the weight of corruption for too long in the scheme of things. For now, the economy is what people seem to care most about and status quo is good enough for them, but when the inflationary cycle sets in due to adverse effects of tariffs and jobs go away then people will care. To what degree depends on how much things hurt. In the event of a Greater Depression as the worst case, the government will collapse and we start over. If things are otherwise we might still have our heads up our asses.
 

DrunkenSano

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What I wish is for both of the major parties to completely fracture. You will have the crazy extreme right on the Republican side having their own group and politicians, a more centrist-right group on the Republican side that is more focused on working with all the groups while maintaining their conservative views. Same with a centered independent group and a centrist-left group. Then you have the far left liberals like the socialists as well. All groups will have their ideas, some which are valid and some which aren't, but the ideas shouldn't be immediately dismissed because it's a Republican idea or a Democrat idea. Having just a Republican party and a Democrat party is ludicrous and too damaging to the country.
 

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I don't know if the US will be recognizable in a decade so I certainly haven't a clue as to the political state of the union. The current system cannot survive under the weight of corruption for too long in the scheme of things. For now, the economy is what people seem to care most about and status quo is good enough for them, but when the inflationary cycle sets in due to adverse effects of tariffs and jobs go away then people will care. To what degree depends on how much things hurt. In the event of a Greater Depression as the worst case, the government will collapse and we start over. If things are otherwise we might still have our heads up our asses.

I'm not normally a fringy/conspiracy kinda kook. But I do think there is some very bad stuff brewing deep under our economy. We have a massive, and ever increasing inequality in how our wealth is distributed. 1% of our nation has the other 99% by the balls. The 1% is slowly buying up all of the little guys and taking over ownership of content and production. They squeeze whatever wealth they can out of those purchases and leave a corpse of dead companies in their wake. I think we'll start seeing those wealth holders cashing out leaving those companies to die. Sort of like the Elves leaving the realm of humans in LoTR. Jobs and employment will dry up. Our service economy will crash.

And then we'll have to reset to America 2.0. New currency. New laws. A total reversal of the industrial revolution as we move away from massive mega-corp production and move towards smaller/individual ownershsip like things were in the pre-industrial age. That's not 10 years, and likely not in my lifetime. But it's just how things feel like they are moving. The weight of that income inequality is going to pull us all down.
 

DrunkenSano

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I'm not normally a fringy/conspiracy kinda kook. But I do think there is some very bad stuff brewing deep under our economy. We have a massive, and ever increasing inequality in how our wealth is distributed. 1% of our nation has the other 99% by the balls. The 1% is slowly buying up all of the little guys and taking over ownership of content and production. They squeeze whatever wealth they can out of those purchases and leave a corpse of dead companies in their wake. I think we'll start seeing those wealth holders cashing out leaving those companies to die. Sort of like the Elves leaving the realm of humans in LoTR. Jobs and employment will dry up. Our service economy will crash.

And then we'll have to reset to America 2.0. New currency. New laws. A total reversal of the industrial revolution as we move away from massive mega-corp production and move towards smaller/individual ownershsip like things were in the pre-industrial age. That's not 10 years, and likely not in my lifetime. But it's just how things feel like they are moving. The weight of that income inequality is going to pull us all down.

If the direction doesn't change, it will definitely get worse and the class disparity will also worsen by a lot. That will result is a messy and probably bloody revolution. History will just repeat itself, that is always the endgame. Things get bad enough until enough people has had enough, and there is a revolution. I'm just hoping I've saved enough money by then to move to like Switzerland and retire.
 

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What I wish is for both of the major parties to completely fracture. You will have the crazy extreme right on the Republican side having their own group and politicians, a more centrist-right group on the Republican side that is more focused on working with all the groups while maintaining their conservative views. Same with a centered independent group and a centrist-left group. Then you have the far left liberals like the socialists as well. All groups will have their ideas, some which are valid and some which aren't, but the ideas shouldn't be immediately dismissed because it's a Republican idea or a Democrat idea. Having just a Republican party and a Democrat party is ludicrous and too damaging to the country.

I think the natural progression will be to splinter to a horse shoe model (Centrist in middle of the shoe and then falling to far left and far right on each side). But I don't know if that's how it *should* be. I question if a true 4 party (or more) with dedicated representation for each party at a House of Reps and then free for all at Senate level would be better. 4 parties would basically be far left, centrist left, centrist right, far right. And a rep for each one. Break up the monopoly on power and force groups to Caucasus with one another for advancement.