What do you think would happen if Al Qaeda detonated a nuclear weapon in a US city

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jpeyton

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I think we'd turn some sand into glass.

Afghanistan is largely mountainous, FYI. But the whole sand/glass thing is always good for a few chuckles.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I think we'd turn some sand into glass.

Afghanistan is largely mountainous, FYI. But the whole sand/glass thing is always good for a few chuckles.

I know, it had to be said though. :laugh:;)
 

Vic

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If Al Qaeda had nukes, they wouldn't have crashed planes into buildings.
 

michaels

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We would still have the nuts who think talking and policies would work, and they would still to refuse to admit that Islam needs a huge enima.
 

sao123

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while you're all worried about thie big cities... some beloved patriot sits in a closet preparing to nuke the open country in the central us.
Forget killing people... well nuke the grain basket and starve them all to death.

No grain, no corn, no cows.
yea... worldwide screwedness.
 
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Originally posted by: hungfarover
islam, the religion of peace.

those nice fellows would never harm us! gosh!

Thank you for trolling.

Lots of people would die.
100 times more people would die in the inevitable Third World War.

(cue in Halo 3 teaser)

"This is the way, the world will end."
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: Vic
If Al Qaeda had nukes, they wouldn't have crashed planes into buildings.

That's NOT correct. They are not madmen in the sense of mindless bloodthirsty maniacs who cannot see beyond a desire for immediate carnage. (Zarqawi was probably somewhat closer to that type.)

Khalid Sheik Mohammed said they first considered attacking nuclear reactor sites but decided against it, that things "might get out of control."

They also considered using something called a "mubtakkar" device, an easily obtainable chemical weapons dispersal device, but Zawahiri called that off as well, presumably because it would not be devestating enough as a followup to 9/11.

 

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Realistically, the next crusade would begin. There will be no safe harbor for islamic fundamentalists around the world, innocent or guilty. I could imagine a holocaust for the muslim population. War would be bigger than any war we've ever experienced. Not only will it be on a global scale, but internally too.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: J0hnny
Realistically, the next crusade would begin. There will be no safe harbor for islamic fundamentalists around the world, innocent or guilty. I could imagine a holocaust for the muslim population. War would be bigger than any war we've ever experienced. Not only will it be on a global scale, but internally too.

The apocalyptic scenarios are far-fetched, at best. Rooting out fundamentalists is a given; in fact, that's what we should have been doing since day one. The world wouldn't allow another Holocaust to occur unilaterally; it would only happen if a large number of Islamic nations declared war on us (which would never happen).

Our government has already declared many Islamic nations to be our allies. While a few states (Iran and Syria) would still be open to attack, most would not.
 

amdhunter

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I would make those stupid support our troops stickers that all these dumbasses have on their cars, except that it would say "support <insert city here>." No joke, I'd be a friggin millionaire within a few days. :thumbsup:
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: amdhunter
I would make those stupid support our troops stickers that all these dumbasses have on their cars, except that it would say "support <insert city here>." No joke, I'd be a friggin millionaire within a few days. :thumbsup:

Don't forget some Chinese-made US flags and flag stickers. I'd secure a distributor now.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Vic
If Al Qaeda had nukes, they wouldn't have crashed planes into buildings.
What if they got one in January of 2007?
And how do you suppose they would do that?

Originally posted by: Frackal
That's NOT correct. They are not madmen in the sense of mindless bloodthirsty maniacs who cannot see beyond a desire for immediate carnage. (Zarqawi was probably somewhat closer to that type.)
Given that they already murdered almost 3,000 people, I cannot agree with this statement. In that one day, they murdered more people than Ridgway, Dahmer, and Bundy did in all their lifetimes combined.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Vic
If Al Qaeda had nukes, they wouldn't have crashed planes into buildings.
What if they got one in January of 2007?
And how do you suppose they would do that?

Originally posted by: Frackal
That's NOT correct. They are not madmen in the sense of mindless bloodthirsty maniacs who cannot see beyond a desire for immediate carnage. (Zarqawi was probably somewhat closer to that type.)
Given that they already murdered almost 3,000 people, I cannot agree with this statement. In that one day, they murdered more people than Ridgway, Dahmer, and Bundy did in all their lifetimes combined.


I hate to say this, but they consider 3,000 to be a rather low starting point to begin gradually increasing the pain felt by US citizens.

And by the way, this is war (to them, and to us), not serial killing.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Frackal
That's NOT correct. They are not madmen in the sense of mindless bloodthirsty maniacs who cannot see beyond a desire for immediate carnage. (Zarqawi was probably somewhat closer to that type.)
Given that they already murdered almost 3,000 people, I cannot agree with this statement. In that one day, they murdered more people than Ridgway, Dahmer, and Bundy did in all their lifetimes combined.
I hate to say this, but they consider 3,000 to be a rather low starting point to begin gradually increasing the pain felt by US citizens.
My point exactly. They ARE mindless bloodthirsty maniacs. And like all mindless bloodthirsty maniacs, once they start doing it, they want to keep doing it. Just like any psychopathic serial murderers.

It's funny that we think people like Ridgway, Dahmer, and Bundy are psychopaths or sociopaths, and then we condone war. It seems that killing a few is horribly wrong, but killing thousands or millions is ok.
 

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The President would be blamed for the attacks and any military action in response would be criticized.
 

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A nuclear bomb going off in a city and killing scores of innocent people is a potential recipe for disaster.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Frackal
That's NOT correct. They are not madmen in the sense of mindless bloodthirsty maniacs who cannot see beyond a desire for immediate carnage. (Zarqawi was probably somewhat closer to that type.)
Given that they already murdered almost 3,000 people, I cannot agree with this statement. In that one day, they murdered more people than Ridgway, Dahmer, and Bundy did in all their lifetimes combined.
I hate to say this, but they consider 3,000 to be a rather low starting point to begin gradually increasing the pain felt by US citizens.
My point exactly. They ARE mindless bloodthirsty maniacs. And like all mindless bloodthirsty maniacs, once they start doing it, they want to keep doing it. Just like any psychopathic serial murderers.

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No they aren't. (without parsing to some 4th Lt. from Karachi who is)

Bin Laden is:

- Patient
- Calculating
- Capable

-And possesses an (arguably) reluctant but most certainly present willingness to kill.

They are not motivated by a desire to simply kill. At least Bin Laden is not, nor is Al-Zawahiri.
 

SamurAchzar

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There will be another half-assed attempt at war, and after 5 years all that will remain of the event is a bunch of documentaries and a f*cking huge insurance claim.

The West is just too weak to properly root out mad Islam. GWB is not even half the madman needed to counter them.

What I'd like to see in such scenario is a preemptive strike on nuclear sites in the Muslim world (Pakistan, etc), and then nuclear bombing of Mecca and Medinna. Just hurt them where it matters. They want our symbols? Lets get theirs.
 

Zebo

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Books you need to read are "The Dhimmi" - "Islam and Dhimmitude" - "The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam" - "Onward Muslim Soldiers" - "The Legacy of Jihad" among others you'd see Jihad-conquest not just been going on in Europe for 1400 years but everywhere Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc were forced to succumb to Islam.

Like the Borg Resistance is futile. Make preparations to covert.

As far as a nuke it's just a matter of time and Bush condi et al will still call it religion of peace
 

Polish3d

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We should only destroy Mecca and Medina IMO if we intend and are prepared to eradicate all Muslims around the world, which is not what we wish or should do. And I sincerely hope it never comes to that.