What do you think the Democrats will get done before 2008

[biostud]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Craig234
I don't think the dems will tie war funding to things like the minimum wage; they would tie it to war policy.

Not publicly, but none of us really knows what goes on behind closed doors

rock, paper, scissors

 

[senseamp]

Democrats will ask the administration what its strategy in Iraq is. And they won't take BS for an answer. Which means that Bush will have to develop a strategy that passes at least a stink test.

 

[Zebo]

I Heard Tony Snow commenting tonight at the White House: "well maybe the President can work with the new majority and get comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty) passed."

So thats pretty much a done deal for 12-30 million illegal aliens since Bush wanted it and democrats wanted it. The only thing stopping was Republican house.

Anything else I wouldn't expect drastic changes due to veto pen.

Bush in still CNC so Iraq or a bomb run on Iran won't change.

Tax cuts under Bush will be allowed to sunset 2008 or 2010 I forget which but I suspect no new taxes as Democrats won't cut thier throat.

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Dems cannot take troops out of Iraq. I don't know why Americans don't get it. The president runs the military. Democrats can only ask questions, the answers still have to come from the president. The problem with GOP is that they weren't asking the hard questions.

Blame the supposed liberal media for planting the idea in the simple man's head that the D's have that power and setting the voters up for disappointment.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Tax hikes, which means not only are you paying more for your goods but your taking home less. But the lazy of the country will be getting more money, so I guess we'll "feel good" because we did something.

I dont know what all we've lost tonight, but I think we've just lost the war on radical islam, and we're well and truly fvcked.

So, it's the Democrats' fault that your moronic hero put us so far into debt that China now owns both Washington, DC and NYC? And, by the way, no human named George Bush has ever won a war. We've been losing this "war" since the day George W. Gump decided he wanted to play war.

Its every politicians fault. *I* am smart enough to realize we've been sliding deeper into debt for decades and dont choose to play the blame game in that regards. Only a fool would really. Granted, Bush has ran us into debt fatser then other Administrations but to say our country is backrupt just because of Bush is very, very short sighted and downright assinine.

As for losing the war....Funny I never heard any Democrat come up with a real solution to the 9/11 incident. Well, other then grab your ankles a little tighter and cuddle up to the terrorists because you know their actually our friends and are just misunderstood.

That idea seems to be working well for Spain, France and the UK doesnt it?

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

As for losing the war....Funny I never heard any Democrat come up with a real solution to the 9/11 incident. Well, other then grab your ankles a little tighter and cuddle up to the terrorists because you know their actually our friends and are just misunderstood.

That idea seems to be working well for Spain, France and the UK doesnt it?

Are you suggesting that the war in Iraq decreases the terror threat?

As for preventing international terrorism I find it very hard to believe that invading a country which has never been linked to international terrorism should somehow decrease the threats from terrorists. Other changed security policies might have improved security, but the war in Iraq.........

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: Specop 007

As for losing the war....Funny I never heard any Democrat come up with a real solution to the 9/11 incident. Well, other then grab your ankles a little tighter and cuddle up to the terrorists because you know their actually our friends and are just misunderstood.

That idea seems to be working well for Spain, France and the UK doesnt it?

Are you suggesting that the war in Iraq decreases the terror threat?

Not in the short term, and it will hurt us in the long term to leave.
Flip side to that of course is how long can we afford to stay there?

As for preventing international terrorism I find it very hard to believe that invading a country which has never been linked to international terrorism should somehow decrease the threats from terrorists. Other changed security policies might have improved security, but the war in Iraq.........

And it wont decrease the threat of terrorism if we pull out.

 

[Strk]

I'd like to see an investigation and end to the cost plus program. Investigating the group that created the energy bill would also be quite nice. It's hard to say if it will be gridlock like the 90s. I'm not sure if the Democrats will investigate every possible thing available like the Republicans did.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: Specop 007

As for losing the war....Funny I never heard any Democrat come up with a real solution to the 9/11 incident. Well, other then grab your ankles a little tighter and cuddle up to the terrorists because you know their actually our friends and are just misunderstood.

That idea seems to be working well for Spain, France and the UK doesnt it?

Are you suggesting that the war in Iraq decreases the terror threat?

Not in the short term, and it will hurt us in the long term to leave.
Flip side to that of course is how long can we afford to stay there?

As for preventing international terrorism I find it very hard to believe that invading a country which has never been linked to international terrorism should somehow decrease the threats from terrorists. Other changed security policies might have improved security, but the war in Iraq.........

And it wont decrease the threat of terrorism if we pull out.

The "threat"? Perhaps not, but it will decrease the Acts of terrorism significantly. You'd go from daily to every few years.

 

[GoPackGo]

Just think...in a few months they will start talking the 08 Elections and the bid for President since both side have to do the primary thing.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I Heard Tony Snow commenting tonight at the White House: "well maybe the President can work with the new majority and get comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty) passed."

So thats pretty much a done deal for 12-30 million illegal aliens since Bush wanted it and democrats wanted it. The only thing stopping was Republican house.

Anything else I wouldn't expect drastic changes due to veto pen.

Bush in still CNC so Iraq or a bomb run on Iran won't change.

Tax cuts under Bush will be allowed to sunset 2008 or 2010 I forget which but I suspect no new taxes as Democrats won't cut thier throat.

If they don't do some kind of middle class tax cut/relief or at least extend the current rates, then it might be bad for the dems in 2008.

Look for Bush to push hard for that. Or not.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: Specop 007

As for losing the war....Funny I never heard any Democrat come up with a real solution to the 9/11 incident. Well, other then grab your ankles a little tighter and cuddle up to the terrorists because you know their actually our friends and are just misunderstood.

That idea seems to be working well for Spain, France and the UK doesnt it?

Are you suggesting that the war in Iraq decreases the terror threat?

Not in the short term, and it will hurt us in the long term to leave.
Flip side to that of course is how long can we afford to stay there?

As for preventing international terrorism I find it very hard to believe that invading a country which has never been linked to international terrorism should somehow decrease the threats from terrorists. Other changed security policies might have improved security, but the war in Iraq.........

And it wont decrease the threat of terrorism if we pull out.

The "threat"? Perhaps not, but it will decrease the Acts of terrorism significantly. You'd go from daily to every few years.

Daily over there or every few years over here.

Which would you prefer? Never mind, I think I know.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ntdz
What, if anything, do you people they will manage to accomplish? I think it'll be tough to get stuff by Bush...what's your guys' take? As long as they don't raise taxes or screw with business I could care less what else they do...

Topic Title: What do you think the Democrats will get done before 2008
Topic Summary: Assuming they take the House and Senate (which, I'm afraid, I think will happen)

I hope all the resident Republicans are quaking in their pants on a daily basis. :thumbsup:

I hope Dems are able to extract every due tax out of the upper rich class that has been not paying their fair share.

I hope the big Corporations that have been in control get so kicked in the ass that they leave the Country.

Don't worry, real Americans that love the Country will fill the gap by the Companies that hate America leaving and we will be better off.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: loki8481
minimum wage increase
some bush tax cuts will expire
tax deduction for college tuition (with the $ coming from the above)
medicare will be allowed to negotiate with drug companies

and I feel like capital hill will see a lot less partisan warfare as people are forced to compromise if they want to get anything done. I'm also crossing my fingers that we'll see an investigation into Cheney's top secret energy council.

I agree. I think most, if not all the huge tax breaks given to companies will expire. There will be no impeachment hearings, despite what some think.

 

[Firebot]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
I dont know what all we've lost tonight, but I think we've just lost the war on radical islam, and we're well and truly fvcked.

Your idiot of a president made you lose the war on radical Islam, by going out and invading the wrong country, manufacturing terrorists instead of eliminating them.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ntdz
What, if anything, do you people they will manage to accomplish? I think it'll be tough to get stuff by Bush...what's your guys' take? As long as they don't raise taxes or screw with business I could care less what else they do...

Topic Title: What do you think the Democrats will get done before 2008
Topic Summary: Assuming they take the House and Senate (which, I'm afraid, I think will happen)

I hope all the resident Republicans are quaking in their pants on a daily basis. :thumbsup:

I hope Dems are able to extract every due tax out of the upper rich class that has been not paying their fair share.

I hope the big Corporations that have been in control get so kicked in the ass that they leave the Country.

Don't worry, real Americans that love the Country will fill the gap by the Companies that hate America leaving and we will be better off.

Ahhh, the entitlement mindset is alive and well!
Why should us commoners work, lets just steal from those greedy elitist pigs!

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Firebot

Originally posted by: Specop 007
I dont know what all we've lost tonight, but I think we've just lost the war on radical islam, and we're well and truly fvcked.

Your idiot of a president made you lose the war on radical Islam, by going out and invading the wrong country, manufacturing terrorists instead of eliminating them.

Really? I thought our action was a response to an attack. You mean to tell me we werent attacked by terrorists?

Yes, lets put our heads in the sand because, as I said earlier, its working so very well for France, Spain, Uk and a host of other countries isnt it.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ntdz
What, if anything, do you people they will manage to accomplish? I think it'll be tough to get stuff by Bush...what's your guys' take? As long as they don't raise taxes or screw with business I could care less what else they do...

Topic Title: What do you think the Democrats will get done before 2008
Topic Summary: Assuming they take the House and Senate (which, I'm afraid, I think will happen)

I hope all the resident Republicans are quaking in their pants on a daily basis. :thumbsup:

I hope Dems are able to extract every due tax out of the upper rich class that has been not paying their fair share.

I hope the big Corporations that have been in control get so kicked in the ass that they leave the Country.

Don't worry, real Americans that love the Country will fill the gap by the Companies that hate America leaving and we will be better off.

Ahhh, the entitlement mindset is alive and well!
Why should us commoners work, lets just steal from those greedy elitist pigs!

greedy elitist pigs!

You said it, not me.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: Specop 007

As for losing the war....Funny I never heard any Democrat come up with a real solution to the 9/11 incident. Well, other then grab your ankles a little tighter and cuddle up to the terrorists because you know their actually our friends and are just misunderstood.

That idea seems to be working well for Spain, France and the UK doesnt it?

Are you suggesting that the war in Iraq decreases the terror threat?

Not in the short term, and it will hurt us in the long term to leave.
Flip side to that of course is how long can we afford to stay there?

As for preventing international terrorism I find it very hard to believe that invading a country which has never been linked to international terrorism should somehow decrease the threats from terrorists. Other changed security policies might have improved security, but the war in Iraq.........

And it wont decrease the threat of terrorism if we pull out.

The "threat"? Perhaps not, but it will decrease the Acts of terrorism significantly. You'd go from daily to every few years.

Daily over there or every few years over here.

Which would you prefer? Never mind, I think I know.

The "few years" has not been eliminated. The "daily" has skyrocketed.

 

[Firebot]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Firebot

Originally posted by: Specop 007
I dont know what all we've lost tonight, but I think we've just lost the war on radical islam, and we're well and truly fvcked.

Your idiot of a president made you lose the war on radical Islam, by going out and invading the wrong country, manufacturing terrorists instead of eliminating them.

Really? I thought our action was a response to an attack. You mean to tell me we werent attacked by terrorists?

Yes, lets put our heads in the sand because, as I said earlier, its working so very well for France, Spain, Uk and a host of other countries isnt it.

I don't remember Saddam Hussein taking part in 9/11. That would be like Pearl Harbour being attacked by Japan, and invading Spain as retaliation for that attack.

 

[piasabird]

Democrats will not get much done. I think it will still be hard to accomplish anything. Bush can still use his veto powers. If they do everything business as usually they will have to do some cooperating to appease the president and get him to make some compromises. Of course to do this they will have to break their own idealog way of doing things. If they mess the country up in the two years they are in office, the voters will not forgive them. With the voters, everything is about the money. If they change security policy and we have a terrorist attack that could all be blamed on them also. However, knowing the Democrats, they will just blame everything on Bush. What would be neat is to see Bush impeached and then to see him Resign and leave the vice president in charge.

 

[MikeO]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Firebot

Originally posted by: Specop 007
I dont know what all we've lost tonight, but I think we've just lost the war on radical islam, and we're well and truly fvcked.

Your idiot of a president made you lose the war on radical Islam, by going out and invading the wrong country, manufacturing terrorists instead of eliminating them.

Really? I thought our action was a response to an attack. You mean to tell me we werent attacked by terrorists?

The 19 terrorists behind the attack were mostly from Saudi Arabia and your response is to attack... Iraq! Yeah, that makes sense. Brainwashing by BushCo, creating it's own reality since 2001!

 

[Bird222]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Gun bans, because you certainly dont want your subjects armed! But we'll "feel good" because we've taken a major step is stopping crime and stripping Rights from citizens.

You have got to be kidding me talking about 'stripping rights from citizens'. Apparently, the Revolutionary war is too far removed because a great number of us have forgetten what the 'idea' of America is supposed to be about. Bush and company have stripped more rights from citizens than I care to think about. When Bush leaves office, I hope whoever gets in (Dem or Repub) get rid of the Patriot Act and return the Bill of Rights and some freedom back to this country. Because if things don't change the terrorist don't have to execute a single additional attack on America because they will have already done us in.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Ahhh, the entitlement mindset is alive and well!
Why should us commoners work, lets just steal from those greedy elitist pigs!

Said the millionaire to the billionaire. :laugh: