What do you think of TorrentPrivacy?

[G73S]

Since you all know I have a DMCA complaint a while back, what do you think of this program here that for a small subscription, promises it will keep you anonymous as it uses an SSH proxy or whatever they call it

am I safe that way? and does this alleviate the need for using a VPN alltogether?

https://torrentprivacy.com/index.php?mod=v2_user

Piracy discussions are okay. But, AT is not a platform for giving or asking for instructions on how to pirate. -Admin DrPizza

 

[smakme7757]

It's essentially the same as a VPN however they are only tunneling your torrent traffic with their pre-configured torrent software.

They say they keep no logs, which is nice, but in the end you still need to trust them. I couldn't seem to figure out what country they are located in either.

To be honest, you're better off just not stealing.

 

[Morbus]

Stealing information isn't stealing. At most it's espionage.

 

[smakme7757]

Stealing information isn't stealing. At most it's espionage.

I don't think a film would be classified as "Information" and espionage wouldn't apply to something that is publicly available for download.

Stealing: "To take (the property of another) without right or permission."
Ok
Copyright infringement as noted below.

 

[lxskllr]

Stealing information isn't stealing. At most it's espionage.

That's a paradoxical statement that occurs when people use incorrect terminology. Same as when people say "Android is Linux, but it isn't Linux". Unauthorized downloading of data is copyright infringement, not stealing, and Linux on the desktop is typically GNU/Linux, while Linux on Android would probably be best described as Android/Linux since "Linux" is just a kernel, and doesn't do much by itself.

 

[G73S]

the conversation has now steered of my question about its effectiveness.

I didn't want to discuss whether the whole act of downloading is right or wrong to each his own. I just wanted to ask the experts here what do they think of this proggy

It's essentially the same as a VPN however they are only tunneling your torrent traffic with their pre-configured torrent software.

They say they keep no logs, which is nice, but in the end you still need to trust them. I couldn't seem to figure out what country they are located in either.

To be honest, you're better off just not stealing.

They're in the UK it seems

http://torrentprivacy.com/index.php?mod=v2_contacts

 

[lxskllr]

the conversation has now steered of my question about its effectiveness.

I didn't want to discuss whether the whole act of downloading is right or wrong to each his own. I just wanted to ask the experts here what do they think of this proggy



They're in the UK it seems

http://torrentprivacy.com/index.php?mod=v2_contacts

AT isn't friendly towards particular discussion of copyright infringement. Aside from that, you're asking to be spoon fed. Being spoon fed techniques for skirting law are likely to end up with you being burned. There are no shortcuts to anonymity and cryptography. The concepts are are fairly complex, and can't be boiled down to "Use this, and it'll all be cool".

If you want to pursue this topic, you'd probably do better on reddit.

 

[G73S]

AT isn't friendly towards particular discussion of copyright infringement. Aside from that, you're asking to be spoon fed. Being spoon fed techniques for skirting law are likely to end up with you being burned. There are no shortcuts to anonymity and cryptography. The concepts are are fairly complex, and can't be boiled down to "Use this, and it'll all be cool".

If you want to pursue this topic, you'd probably do better on reddit.

The whole point of making this thread actually was to get an answer from you who I consider to be the most knowledgeable on these forums.

But if you don't wanna help its cool I understand

 

[lxskllr]

The whole point of making this thread actually was to get an answer from you who I consider to be the most knowledgeable on these forums.

But if you don't wanna help its cool I understand

... And, no helping people to pirate. -Admin DrPizza

 

[corkyg]

My personal view of the question is this - on the Internet, I have no expectation of privacy.

 

[lxskllr]

My personal view of the question is this - on the Internet, I have no expectation of privacy.

That's a design flaw that needs to be fixed. Same as Windows being designed with non-existent security. That's been improved over time, and the internet will follow as long as people give privacy the value it deserves.

 

[Carson Dyle]

I've received maybe six or seven DMCA warnings over the past 10 years from Comcast, my ISP. I've never tried to use a VPN or proxy. Should I be worried?

 

[lxskllr]

I've received maybe six or seven DMCA warnings over the past 10 years from Comcast, my ISP. I've never tried to use a VPN or proxy. Should I be worried?

The "six strikes" system largely has no teeth. They've pretty much said they don't intend to do anything drastic. What you have to worry about is predatory lawyers looking to make some easy money. They especially like going after porn downloaders due to the embarrassment factor. Many will just quietly pay up instead of challenging the dubious, or fraudulent claims.

 

[smakme7757]

I don't really think it's worth the risk downloading torrents anymore. You're just putting yourself in a position to rolled over by private enterprise.

I just read about a guy who was dragged out of amovie by government agents because he was wearing Google Glasses: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/01/22/feds-question-man-for-wearing-google-glass-in-movie-theater/

I mean seriously. It's all just a big witch hunt. How did we end up here? I just don't think it's worth getting involved. When law enforcement is in the pockets of the MPAA you're pretty much stuffed if they decide to target you.

A free porno film or movie isn't worth the risk of being financially fucked for the rest of your life. Maybe you even get a black mark against your name in the police database which isn't a good thing,

 

[Morbus]

Unauthorized downloading of data is copyright infringement, not stealing

I'm sorry, unauthorized DISTRIBUTION of data is copyright infringement. If you download something you don't legally have the right to use, it's the distributor's fault for giving it to you. Much like when you watch cable TV on a bar that hasn't paid its dues, or go to a disco that doesn't have a license, or are given a game for free by your mobile service provider, or get it bundled in a magazine. You're not required to know whether the provider has the rights to give you the data!

Granted, of course, this is not me justifying piracy. If you buy or receive clearly counterfeit software/hardware/products, you must be held responsible, or are at least expected to know the software/hardware/product is counterfeit. But as usually happens, the worse that can happen is you loosing your money and the software/hardware/product.

Of course it's all a double standard. Roadrunner released Dream Theater's latest album for free on Youtube, a month before the album could be bought off the shelf. Nowhere on Youtube or anywhere is there a license of any sort, they released the material for free with no strings attached. Apart from draconian moronic laws that protect the established music industry's MO, nothing is impeding me from giving the album away for free to whoever, or using it however I want to. This doesn't apply to data with a license that prohibits distribution in some form, but it does apply to a measurable part of the torrents we find around the web. There are TV shows that are free to be distributed, software, movies, music, games, all sorts of INFORMATION (aka data) that the distributor, at one time or another, gave out for free with no distribution hindrances. How is the average costumer expected to legally know what he's entitled to and what he's not?

Argue this against a jury? I don't think you'll be very successful. And I wouldn't want to do it (that's why I don't, as a rule, use pirated or otherwise illegal software). But that doesn't mean it's not right.

Again, copyright infringement exists to prevent distribution, not usage. It's just the twisted ways of rich lobbies all around the world that has turned into a tool to force you to have to pay twice to watch a movie on two different occasions, or on two different monitors, or to pay twice to listen to the same music on two different music players, it's just bonkers. I'm fine that they charge people for that crap, and I'm fine that people pay for it, but I don't care for that. Back to the music thing, when I buy an album, physical or digital, I immediately get all the files synced across my phone, my car, my MP3 player and my computer. I don't care that they want me to pay more for that, they should be thanking me for even buying anything in the first place.

My personal view of the question is this - on the Internet, I have no expectation of privacy.

This, pretty much.

 

[lxskllr]

I'm sorry, unauthorized DISTRIBUTION of data is copyright infringement. If you download something you don't legally have the right to use, it's the distributor's fault for giving it to you. Much like when you watch cable TV on a bar that hasn't paid its dues, or go to a disco that doesn't have a license, or are given a game for free by your mobile service provider, or get it bundled in a magazine. You're not required to know whether the provider has the rights to give you the data!

Perhaps... My wording wasn't very good. Ironic considering my mini rant above :^D

I had torrents specifically in mind, and unless you specifically set your client up differently, you are distributing content. If you set up your client to not give back, you're a douchebag, and will probably still get a nastygram forwarded to you by your isp.

 

[Morbus]

Perhaps... My wording wasn't very good. Ironic considering my mini rant above :^D

I had torrents specifically in mind, and unless you specifically set your client up differently, you are distributing content. If you set up your client to not give back, you're a douchebag, and will probably still get a nastygram forwarded to you by your isp.

Word.

I'm sorry for the slight offtopic though. I don't presume to know everything or even be right in my views... Thankfully I live in Portugal, and the government doesn't crack down on piracy nearly as much as in other countries. Not that it'd be a problem for me, mind you, but up to until very recently, it would be. I'd say I moved out of it more due to my solid financial situation and conscience towards the developers than out of legal fear or whatever. Anyway...

 

[jolancer]

everything in this topic ATM IMO is circumstantial. and IMO less relevant than what most i think make it out to be. piracy has always been around even before broadband, you could get a bootleg anything in most urban developed country locations. In the current economic model I can't say i condone it. If you are in a stable enough position to financialy support your entertainment needs opposed to the more important things, yet choose to counterfit it anyway for no good reason, well theres no law against being a cockface, however in that instance people like that are probably doing worse things which overshadow the relavance of simple piracy anyhow.

despite piracy and the internet the entertainment industry is still and probably will always be one of the most successful industries in the economy. I can't even imagine it being worth there while to try and go after and prosecute those downloading copyrighted content. That said i don't blame anyone for using scare tactics to protect there copyrighted content, unless there using bait tactics like law enforcment.

however excluding the porn industry which is probably hit harder than average from piracy. Tho i can't say i have any simpathy for them, the majority of random porn Id say that iv seen so far in my life is worthless, the porn that i thought was actually worth a dam i would be willing to spend the money on if i had it for it, to support the producers of good content like any other industry. For that reason and there profit loss's probably being a matter of perspective, ex- porn ceo perhaps only making billions now instead of trillions.. I personally won't be shedding a tear[EDIT: No Fcks given, pun intended, lol had to put that in], and actually am starting to think piracy helps the threshold BS tollorance production limit for the industry not just porn..

So for example, anything produced currently has a potential for piracy, but if something is produced to capture the respect of there target users/audience, I don't think piracy could stop its success. Where as producing something for Bshits sake, piracy aside, i hope it fails.

All that said, id have to say im fine with the way things currently are re Torrent privacy. those who can afford it maybe scared away from piracy, and those who cant will always find a way.

 

[OCGuy]

Since when was this allowed to be openly discussed here

 

[Morbus]

Tss, these new comers know no bounds...