What do you think of these headlights?

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poopaskoopa

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They look about the same in those pics. I voted for the new lights just cuz you said the old ones are yellow and faded.
 
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Damn you.....I thought this was a boobies thread! :|
 
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Why does it have a mustang insignia in the grill and a cobra on the side? That's weird...
 
Zenmervolt

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They are _not_ "DOT Approved".

From a very reputable lighting consultant:

What about blue-tinted headlight bulbs that I found at a local auto parts store, or on the internet? They're sold as being "DOT Approved". Are these legal?

Probably not. There's no such thing as "DOT approved". DOT does not "approve" products as the European regulatory body does. Rather, the manufacturer of an item of motor vehicle equipment is legally obligated to self-certify that his product complies with all applicable regulations. For some items of equipment, such as headlamp bulbs, the certification takes the form of a "DOT" marking on the bulb base. However, there is no legal obligation for the manufacturer to submit his product for government testing before applying the marking, and many companies go ahead and apply the marking even to bulbs that do not comply with the law. The relevant regulations (US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108, Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards 108 and 108.1, and ECE Regulations 8, 20, 37, 98, 99, 112 and 113 all call for "white" light, defined as discussed above, so the statement of DOT compliance itself is false for a bulb that emits a light color obviously different from "white".

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
They are _not_ "DOT Approved".

From a very reputable lighting consultant:

What about blue-tinted headlight bulbs that I found at a local auto parts store, or on the internet? They're sold as being "DOT Approved". Are these legal?

Probably not. There's no such thing as "DOT approved". DOT does not "approve" products as the European regulatory body does. Rather, the manufacturer of an item of motor vehicle equipment is legally obligated to self-certify that his product complies with all applicable regulations. For some items of equipment, such as headlamp bulbs, the certification takes the form of a "DOT" marking on the bulb base. However, there is no legal obligation for the manufacturer to submit his product for government testing before applying the marking, and many companies go ahead and apply the marking even to bulbs that do not comply with the law. The relevant regulations (US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 108, Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards 108 and 108.1, and ECE Regulations 8, 20, 37, 98, 99, 112 and 113 all call for "white" light, defined as discussed above, so the statement of DOT compliance itself is false for a bulb that emits a light color obviously different from "white".

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html

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It's not the bulbs that are tinted but the lens itself.

notfred, do they have just regular smoked lenses? ie, charcoal or something similar? I think that'd look better then the blue.
 
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SportSC4

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im guessing that your headlights are plastic since they are yellow and faded, right? Scrub them hard with a plastic polisher and they will look new, the yellow is due to oxidation.
 
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Originally posted by: SportSC4
im guessing that your headlights are plastic since they are yellow and faded, right? Scrub them hard with a plastic polisher and they will look new, the yellow is due to oxidation.
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Any recommendations for a plastic polisher? Where can I pick something like that up? Hardware store?
 
Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
It's not the bulbs that are tinted but the lens itself.

notfred, do they have just regular smoked lenses? ie, charcoal or something similar? I think that'd look better then the blue.
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A tint is a tint and is therefore illegal. Unless tinting the lenses somehow magically has no effect on the color of the light output. A blue tinted lens with a clear bulb has the same net effect as a blue tinted bulb in a clear lens.

And that still doesn't chance the fact that there is no such thing as "DOT Approval" or "DOT Certification", those are 100% untested claims, the government does not certify bulbs or lenses.

Furthermore, a tint by definition will reduce the total light output. Given that US headlights are already piss-poor, I fail to understand why anyone would want to make something that already sucks, suck even worse. There are exactly three replacements I would consider: OE, Hella, and Ciebe. Since Hella and Ciebe lenses are only available as H4 conversions of sealed beam designs, that leaves the OE lenses in the case of Notfred's Cobra.

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!
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It's a Mustang Cobra you nitwit, that's how it's supposed to be.

Viper GTS
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SOME cobras also have the insignia in the front grill. In fact, he's also linked to one such car.
Regardless a '96 cobra can barely hang with a 2003-4 GT let alone a 2005 gt which would rape it.
I think instead of spending money on headlight, you should look into putting more power under the hood.
 
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Originally posted by: SportSC4
im guessing that your headlights are plastic since they are yellow and faded, right? Scrub them hard with a plastic polisher and they will look new, the yellow is due to oxidation.
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If the oxidation is deep, 1500 grit folded over a stiff sponge with light pressure and soapy water will do the trick.
Then use plastic cleaner, followed by plastic polish. Tail light lenses can come-up as new with the same treatment.

bty: Nice look'en ride :)
 
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