what do you think of biotech?

qwex

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with sophomore year about to begin, it's time to pick a major. I'm probably the most undecided engineering student in the school right now, but lately I've been thinking computer engineering, for a few reasons: easier than EE (less analog/low level circuitry stuff); has more comp sci, so seems like I could also work in software engineering if I were so inclined; people always need computers; I've already taken 3 ECE (electrical and computer engineering, it's one department here) courses.

but people have been telling me it's worth it to do the extra work to major in biomedical engineering, and the job market will be much better with more growth. I'm interested enough in bme to study it, but it does seem like a lot more work over comp-e, namely a year of organic chemistry and biology.

at the same time, though, someone told me a bachelor's in bme isn't enough to do high-tech advanced work, you need a ph.d. or medical degree. though I have nothing to back it up, it sounds sensible - if I wanted to design an artificial heart, would 4 years studying bme really be enough? then again, I don't really know what bme graduates go on to do. but I also want to do more than design consumer electronics or program microprocessors in computer hardware - biotech work strikes me as far more satisfying since it improves people's health, but that's assuming I can work on important projects without extensive post-undergraduate education (med school's too much for me).

so I'm wondering, what do you think will give me more opportunities, both to get a great job and advance in the industry? I'm at this point comfortable with both in terms of interest in the material, though bme will be more work (at least this coming year). would you recommend a masters degree? I'd have the opportunity to do research, but what exactly are some things a comp-e major would research anyway? a masters in EE I can see, but comp-e seems more applications of EE to me. in any case, after a few years in engineering I would really like to go to business school and join the ranks of management.

anyway, I'll stop now. thanks in advance for any advice and answers, hopefully when I start school in a couple weeks the major question will finally be solved :)
 

QueHuong

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I just talked to the director of biomed engineering today at my college - he also recommended that if I want to work as an engineer, I should go for at least a master's. The reason I'm looking into biomed is because I'm planning on pursuing med school. But christ, looking over the curriculum, it scares the crap out of me (I'm gonna be a freshman). Anyway, I recommend you talk to a biomed professor or director.

 

qwex

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emailing the department is a good idea, one I've been putting off for too long...but I'll get on it, I still kind of need to choose what classes I'm taking, and I can't do that without a major
 

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If you don't want to be an EE simply because CS is easier, BME is DEFINITELY not for you. In terms of courseloads, BME is EXTREMELY rigorous. I hope you like school.

And no, you won't get anywhere with a BS or BA in BME. As with any field involving biological research, a bachelors degree is crap and even a masters will get you nowhere. If you're going BME, you're going to have to go all the way and get a PhD. And unlike EE, a PhD in BME means about 5-6 years in grad school as opposed to 3-4 for most engineers.

Sorry to sound so negative but it's the truth. Although I'm not BME (I'm molecular biology) I also was looking to get into BME because I'm exactly the opposite of you. My background is in MCB, but my interest is in engineering. I've decided to ditch that route though and stick with MCB, get my PhD, go into the industry, make lots of money, and then laugh at all the poor people.
 

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I'm a Biomedical Engineering senior with 1 semester left to graduation. I don't know what some of these people are talking about, BME is not that hard. I don't think it would be any harder than CE or EE. The job market for BME's is supposed to like quadruple within the next 10 years so I think BME is definitely a good choice. If you like CE or EE better or you are better at it than you can always do that for undergrad and then go into a Bioengineering masters program.
 

qwex

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I'm thinking along the same lines, do comp-e undergrad, and since I'll probably get a masters anyway (seems like almost necessary to be competitive in today's economy) I can always tailor it to biotech.

if a bachelor's in bme isn't all that useful by itself, then I most likely won't pursue it - I may or may not go as high as a ph.d., but I want to be able to advance with a bachelor's alone, and from what people are telling me, comp-e/EE are better choices for that. and a ph.d. in engineering is a bit more time than I want to dedicate to engineering :)

about the difficulty - course material maybe, but courseload (at least at my school) doesn't seem that way. if I were to do, say, electronic instrumentation, the number of courses I'd have to take to fulfill the requirements is about equal to the number of courses for comp-e, even a couple less, believe it or not. as for difficulty, someone in the department told me himself it's the hardest field, but looking at the student course ratings and comments, it seems to have the same number of really hard courses as EE does. I'm guessing bme is more reading/memorization than problem solving though, and my memory is terrible.

in any case, thanks for the comments so far, anymore are definitely welcome and appreciated (or on something related, like chemical engineering, since I can do a biotech concentration)
 

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Biotech is Godzilla

(really hope someone gets that...)

Damn you! Damn you! You stole my quote. You forgot to put [Max Cavalera] [/Max Cavalera] tags around it though. :)
 

McPhreak

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Originally posted by: qwex
I'm thinking along the same lines, do comp-e undergrad, and since I'll probably get a masters anyway (seems like almost necessary to be competitive in today's economy) I can always tailor it to biotech.

if a bachelor's in bme isn't all that useful by itself, then I most likely won't pursue it - I may or may not go as high as a ph.d., but I want to be able to advance with a bachelor's alone, and from what people are telling me, comp-e/EE are better choices for that. and a ph.d. in engineering is a bit more time than I want to dedicate to engineering :)

about the difficulty - course material maybe, but courseload (at least at my school) doesn't seem that way. if I were to do, say, electronic instrumentation, the number of courses I'd have to take to fulfill the requirements is about equal to the number of courses for comp-e, even a couple less, believe it or not. as for difficulty, someone in the department told me himself it's the hardest field, but looking at the student course ratings and comments, it seems to have the same number of really hard courses as EE does. I'm guessing bme is more reading/memorization than problem solving though, and my memory is terrible.

in any case, thanks for the comments so far, anymore are definitely welcome and appreciated (or on something related, like chemical engineering, since I can do a biotech concentration)

As with any major, the difficulty of your courses generally depends on which school you decide to take those courses in. Even if you're in a rigorous program and you still find it easy, good for you. But I guess I speak on behalf of the vast majority who find BME to be quite challenging to say the least.

 

qwex

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well, my school is supposed to be one of the better ones for bme (top 10 according to US news rankings, not ranked at all for comp-e/EE/comp sci though, but I try nott to pay attention to rankings). I don't know if this means the courses are better, or harder...in any case, time to contact some people in the department for their take