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Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: mcmilljb
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Carbo
The liberal, lying media.

Agreed. The economy would be better than it is if people didn't keep crying wolf and causing people not to spend money.

Because I was supposed to pay $1 million for a 2 bedroom ranch?

Or because a 100% increase in gas prices in 2 years shouldn't cause me to change my spending habits?

How stupid are you? People stopped spending money because they stopped having money to spend.

Their magic spending plastic cards stopped working...

I know... I applied for one of those magic 0% down no-income-documentation mortgages for that $1 million dollar 2 bedroom ranch and was told those loans didn't exist anymore... :(

But it was the liberal media that kept me from buying!!! :|

:roll:
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Republican, Democrat, it doesn't matter. They are the same.

Republicans want to control your life through morality issues (gambling, drinking, marriage, language, education, bad science, etc).

Democrats want to control your life through societal issues (tax the fuck out of you, give your money to worthless people, restrict freedoms like free speech, the right to own guns, etc).

Both of them will spend all your money on their own projects. Both of them tell you the other is horrible. Both of them tell you they are wonderful. Both of them want your vote. Fuck them.

The biggest problem is political correct bullshit. Pretty soon you won't be able to do or say anything because it might offend some gay person, some religious person, some science person or a corporation (which will sue your ass).

Yea but I'd rather be not allowed to gamble outside of vegas and indian casinos, not allow a man and a cow to marry, have English be the official language, and have some accountability in public education than have my hard earned money taken away, not allow me to express my opinions and have my guns taken away.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Considering it doesn't affect me directly but is still pretty damn apparent: religion

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
 

schmedy

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Political Correctness, Nanny State, Government Bloat, people thinking they deserve something without working for it.
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.

I've seen this before and the answer is still NO. It's not. Better luck next time.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: 40Hands
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.

I've seen this before and the answer is still NO. It's not. Better luck next time.

it is by this definition:

A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

http://www.answers.com/religion&r=67
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: 40Hands
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.

I've seen this before and the answer is still NO. It's not. Better luck next time.

it is by this definition:

A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

http://www.answers.com/religion&r=67

That's the definition of religion. How does that relate to atheism? There are many articles about this that you can read. Atheism is NOT a religion. By that definition, a shit ton of things could be considered a religion.

http://atheism.about.com/libra...lathm_rel_religion.htm

 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: 40Hands
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: 40Hands
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.

I've seen this before and the answer is still NO. It's not. Better luck next time.

it is by this definition:

A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

http://www.answers.com/religion&r=67

That's the definition of religion. How does that relate to atheism? There are many articles about this that you can read. Atheism is NOT a religion. By that definition, a shit ton of things could be considered a religion.

http://atheism.about.com/libra...lathm_rel_religion.htm
i know it's one definition of "religion", but it sounds like it could apply to atheism just as well. it's the religion of non-believers in God.

rock and roll can be considered a religion. a religion doesn't always involve worshiping of God.
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.

atheism is a lack of a religion.
 

ElFenix

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Mar 20, 2000
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
i know it's one definition of "religion", but it sounds like it could apply to atheism just as well. it's the religion of non-believers in God.

rock and roll can be considered a religion. a religion doesn't always involve worshiping of God.

i worship Zeus and Athena, therefore i'm an atheist by your definition.

:confused:






Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

naivety is a problem.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
i know it's one definition of "religion", but it sounds like it could apply to atheism just as well. it's the religion of non-believers in God.

rock and roll can be considered a religion. a religion doesn't always involve worshiping of God.

i worship Zeus and Athena, therefore i'm an atheist by your definition.

:confused:

cherry picker. :p so change God to "a god" or "god and goddesses" or "something".








 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
cherry picker. :p so change God to "a god" or "god and goddesses" or "something".

i'll pick your cherry! :D


:eek:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.
No it isn't.

 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: legoman666
I believe religion has been and still is one of the biggest crisis in human history. Nothing else has caused so much war, pain, persecution and suffering. Religion had it's place 1500-2000 years ago, now it does not.

That and stupid people. (especially those who perpetuate religion)

Atheism is a religion too.

atheism is a lack of a religion.

Atheism is a lack of intelligence.