what do you think about this TV?

[pontifex]

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still shows in stock at my local CC. I'm quite surprised (unless the website hasn't updated yet.) if you guys think this is a good TV, i might run over after work and pick one up if they still have any.

 

[Amused]

What would the application be? I wouldn't want it in a dark room or home theater environment, but as a family room TV or kitchen TV it should be fine.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Amused
What would the application be? I wouldn't want it in a dark room or home theater environment, but as a family room TV or kitchen TV it should be fine.

it would be in my bedroom used to play video games on, probably some DVDs also.
I don't have anything that requires or uses HDTV and really have no need for HDTV yet.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Amused
What would the application be? I wouldn't want it in a dark room or home theater environment, but as a family room TV or kitchen TV it should be fine.

it would be in my bedroom used to play video games on, probably some DVDs also.
I don't have anything that requires or uses HDTV and really have no need for HDTV yet.

It's not so much the lower resolution as it is the poor black levels. In a dark HT application, blacks would look very washed out and gray.

But since it's going to be used for games and such, I'd say it's a good bet for you and a great deal.

Go for it.

 

[Reggae4k]

uses an ATI Xilleon chip. people over at avsforum are talking about problems with the chip scaling 480i and 480p content. the result is a lot of ghosting.

update with link

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=712567&page=1&pp=30

 

[ForumMaster]

get it. it's a wonderful price and if you don't like it, you can later sell it for more.

 

[pontifex]

is there any other decent tv similar to this at that price or close?

 

[Reggae4k]

if you go for the 37 inch, it uses a different chip. no ghosting. cheapest is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...=AFC-TechBargains&Item=N82E16889022032

if you dont need a TV tuner (e.g. you have a cable box/sat box/stb) then microcenter has the 37inch "monitor-only" for 499AR. there is also no ghosting on this model.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: Reggae4k
uses an ATI Xilleon chip. people over at avsforum are talking about problems with the chip scaling 480i and 480p content. the result is a lot of ghosting.

update with link

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=712567&page=1&pp=30

From my cursory knowledge, it seems that the blurring exists while trying to display 480i/480p input. However, if you upconvert to 720p, the blurring goes away. Right?

 

[Reggae4k]

From my cursory knowledge, it seems that the blurring exists while trying to display 480i/480p input. However, if you upconvert to 720p, the blurring goes away. Right?

yes thats correct. that would usually require you to buy a new upconverting dvd player. ps2 games would probably be impossible to play as well as the wii (since it doesnt do hd). anything that uses 480i/p would be impossible to watch like older dvd players, vhs, most standard satellite and cable boxes, etc.....

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Reggae4k

From my cursory knowledge, it seems that the blurring exists while trying to display 480i/480p input. However, if you upconvert to 720p, the blurring goes away. Right?

yes thats correct. that would usually require you to buy a new upconverting dvd player. ps2 games would probably be impossible to play as well as the wii (since it doesnt do hd). anything that uses 480i/p would be impossible to watch like older dvd players, vhs, most standard satellite and cable boxes, etc.....

i would plan to use it with a Wii. so it sounds like this would be a bad purchase.
i really don't want to spend that much more on a tv right now (honestly, i probably shouldn't even buy one at all).

 

[pontifex]

i was reading more about that problem on the avs forum. damn, its been like 4 months since people found the problem and there hasn't been a fix yet.

 

[pontifex]

what about the olevia 332h?
also, what exactly is an hdtv tuner? this one doesn't have one

 

[sniperruff]

if you're thinking about the olevia 232v, it's completely gone.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
if you're thinking about the olevia 232v, it's completely gone.

i know that, this is a 332h.

i wouldn't buy a 232 anyway, based on what i read so far.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: Reggae4k
if you go for the 37 inch, it uses a different chip. no ghosting. cheapest is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...=AFC-TechBargains&Item=N82E16889022032

if you dont need a TV tuner (e.g. you have a cable box/sat box/stb) then microcenter has the 37inch "monitor-only" for 499AR. there is also no ghosting on this model.

Do you know how that model differs from the 537H?

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: Reggae4k
if you go for the 37 inch, it uses a different chip. no ghosting. cheapest is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...=AFC-TechBargains&Item=N82E16889022032

if you dont need a TV tuner (e.g. you have a cable box/sat box/stb) then microcenter has the 37inch "monitor-only" for 499AR. there is also no ghosting on this model.

Do you know how that model differs from the 537H?

It doesn't, except for speaker location. It also has a better warranty (1 year on-site, versus having to ship the 237v in). I heard there's a few more menu controls in the 537, but nothing groundbreaking.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: Reggae4k
if you go for the 37 inch, it uses a different chip. no ghosting. cheapest is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...=AFC-TechBargains&Item=N82E16889022032

if you dont need a TV tuner (e.g. you have a cable box/sat box/stb) then microcenter has the 37inch "monitor-only" for 499AR. there is also no ghosting on this model.

Do you know how that model differs from the 537H?

It doesn't, except for speaker location. It also has a better warranty (1 year on-site, versus having to ship the 237v in). I heard there's a few more menu controls in the 537, but nothing groundbreaking.

IIRC you've researched the Olevia 37's pretty extensively, right?

Would you buy the 237V? Why or why not?

Is there anything the 537H does better?

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: Reggae4k
if you go for the 37 inch, it uses a different chip. no ghosting. cheapest is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...=AFC-TechBargains&Item=N82E16889022032

if you dont need a TV tuner (e.g. you have a cable box/sat box/stb) then microcenter has the 37inch "monitor-only" for 499AR. there is also no ghosting on this model.

Do you know how that model differs from the 537H?

It doesn't, except for speaker location. It also has a better warranty (1 year on-site, versus having to ship the 237v in). I heard there's a few more menu controls in the 537, but nothing groundbreaking.

IIRC you've researched the Olevia 37's pretty extensively, right?

Would you buy the 237V? Why or why not?

Is there anything the 537H does better?

If I wasn't about to put down 3 grand on Lasik, I would've bought the 537H from Tiger Direct, just because of the better warranty terms. From what I've read, they both perform the same (both use the MTK video processor). I don't trust UPS, so the fact that Newegg doesn't accept returns is a red flag.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: Reggae4k
if you go for the 37 inch, it uses a different chip. no ghosting. cheapest is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...=AFC-TechBargains&Item=N82E16889022032

if you dont need a TV tuner (e.g. you have a cable box/sat box/stb) then microcenter has the 37inch "monitor-only" for 499AR. there is also no ghosting on this model.

Do you know how that model differs from the 537H?

It doesn't, except for speaker location. It also has a better warranty (1 year on-site, versus having to ship the 237v in). I heard there's a few more menu controls in the 537, but nothing groundbreaking.

IIRC you've researched the Olevia 37's pretty extensively, right?

Would you buy the 237V? Why or why not?

Is there anything the 537H does better?

If I wasn't about to put down 3 grand on Lasik, I would've bought the 537H from Tiger Direct, just because of the better warranty terms. From what I've read, they both perform the same (both use the MTK video processor). I don't trust UPS, so the fact that Newegg doesn't accept returns is a red flag.

Good point and I also don't trust UPS. I know TD has a bad reputation for rebates but at least the rebate amount is low.

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: sniperruff
if you're thinking about the olevia 232v, it's completely gone.

i know that, this is a 332h.

i wouldn't buy a 232 anyway, based on what i read so far.

you do know that the 332 IS the 232 without the HDTV tuner and side speakers right? that's what the folks at AVS have confirmed with olevia's CSR.

 

[Insane3D]

For those worried about UPS and Newegg, I got my 537H from Newegg, and it came from California to NH without a problem. Also, even if UPS was rough with the box, it's packed EXTREMELY well, and I doubt they could do much damage unless they really wanted to. Besides, if you get it and the box is in really bad shape, just don't accept it. It's not yours until you sign according to Newegg...

I'll never understand the rampant UPS worrying around here. I get tons of stuff from UPS delivered to work and I have never had any problems. They are actually more reliable than Fedex in my experience...