for a duron overclocked, would it make that much of a difference if i used radio shack's stuff or if i just used artic silver 2.
what do you think about the radio shack thermal compound?
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I don't think you are going to get a phenominal difference between the two. Arctic Silver will transfer heat better, but I doubt you will see a noticible difference. When I switched from the Radio Shak goo to the Arctic Silver goo I only saw a 1 degree (F) difference. Is it worth the 15 bucks or so for AS? Thats up to you. I would spend your money on a better HSF combo, or maybe lap the surface of your current HSF. With a lapped HSF there is no difference between the type of goo you use (alteast from what I have seen).
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i'd say go for the AS2, its getting cheaper all the time, but watch out it'll void your warranty on an aluminum heatsink, they say it will destroy aluminum heatsinks... but i havent ever experienced it...
I, being cheap, have never used anything else. My Athlon 1000, running at 1500, has also not seen the hot side of 44DegC.
OCnMan
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be aware with the AMD chips, the RS thermal paste tends to dry out after awhile & will need redoing!
Compuwiz1 says he sees significant drying after only his 24hr burn in. (48hrs maybe - not sure, bad memory been looking for a replacement chip but my brain board doesn't have any compatible slots......
)
)I wouldn't use the RS stuff. I've tried it on my P3's, and they needed reapplication, so I just used my AS2 instead
Should I remove the stuff under the tape on the heatsink , before putting on the thermal grease? Thanx.
<< Compuwiz1 says he sees significant drying after only his 24hr burn in. (48hrs maybe - not sure, bad memory been looking for a replacement chip but my brain board doesn't have any compatible slots......
) >>well if he wouldnt keep pulling the damm chip off then it wouldnt be drying faster
evilerich,
Absolutely!
You should definitely remove the thermal compound that comes standard on most HSF before applying AS2.
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Absolutely!
You should definitely remove the thermal compound that comes standard on most HSF before applying AS2.
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Now you guys got me worried about my P3 with RS compound. Do you think I should remove it and reapply with this chemtronics stuff I got for free way back when? And can anybody tell me which fan/hs would be great for a bh6 900mhz@1ghz? I'm still not convinced I've topped this thing off
I think it's tasty, especially good with fish sticks.
On the drying note, obviously when you take apart a CPU/HSF and find dried compound, if you were to put it back together like that it wouldn't work worth a damn, probably worse than bare surfaces. But then we all reapply anyway so that's a nonissue. Has it been shown that dried out compound does not cool as well?
I ask this because while it may seem like a "Duh, of course not" answer, look at ASII. It's got silver particles in a fluid carrier. Assuming you could extract the fluid and have nothing left but a bunch of little silver molecules all touching each other, it'd work just as well, right? However it's impractical to apply silver dust so a fluid form is much handier. Also, the carrier provides some lubricative effect when the heatsink shifts (during installation, drops off buildings, etc) to help minimize clumping.
The only dried out compound I've had personal experience with was with an old K5-133. Had some crap HSF on top, a layer of compound, a piece of foil, another layer of compound - all dried out. Now, no, those didn't make much heat at all. But (at least mine) is fairly heat sensitive. I scraped off all the old dried compound, removed the foil (don't know what it was doing in there) and thought "what the hell, couldn't have been doing anything all dried like that anyway, must not need it" and put it back together with the bare sink. Locked up shortly after and continued doing that until I put it back together properly. So I've seen first hand dried stuff is still doing -something-, what I don't know is how much the efficiency drops off if it does.
--Mc
On the drying note, obviously when you take apart a CPU/HSF and find dried compound, if you were to put it back together like that it wouldn't work worth a damn, probably worse than bare surfaces. But then we all reapply anyway so that's a nonissue. Has it been shown that dried out compound does not cool as well?
I ask this because while it may seem like a "Duh, of course not" answer, look at ASII. It's got silver particles in a fluid carrier. Assuming you could extract the fluid and have nothing left but a bunch of little silver molecules all touching each other, it'd work just as well, right? However it's impractical to apply silver dust so a fluid form is much handier. Also, the carrier provides some lubricative effect when the heatsink shifts (during installation, drops off buildings, etc) to help minimize clumping.
The only dried out compound I've had personal experience with was with an old K5-133. Had some crap HSF on top, a layer of compound, a piece of foil, another layer of compound - all dried out. Now, no, those didn't make much heat at all. But (at least mine) is fairly heat sensitive. I scraped off all the old dried compound, removed the foil (don't know what it was doing in there) and thought "what the hell, couldn't have been doing anything all dried like that anyway, must not need it" and put it back together with the bare sink. Locked up shortly after and continued doing that until I put it back together properly. So I've seen first hand dried stuff is still doing -something-, what I don't know is how much the efficiency drops off if it does.
--Mc
The RS thermal compound on my 566@850 1.8v has been dried out for a while now... Haven't noticed any problems yet but I'll put on some fresh stuff next time I vacum that sucker out .
.I use RS......works just as well for me. We had a discussion awhile back about this "drying out" story. If air can't get to it...I don't know how it could dry out. Every HS I've taken of with RS on it was still fresh.......months & months later. Once the air hits it.......sure it dries. It hasn't for me "in use" though.
Other compounds are not magic bullets. I say this 'cause lately I get the impression that all you need to OC to 2gigs is some AS2 and a 500watt power supply.
Other compounds are not magic bullets. I say this 'cause lately I get the impression that all you need to OC to 2gigs is some AS2 and a 500watt power supply.
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I have used RS compound for years and so far I haven?t had it dry out. Right now I got it on a 300a @ 450, a 500 cel @ 560, a P3 550 @ 760 and P3 700 @ 933. When I take them apart for cleaning, (every 6-8 months or so) the compound is still fresh. At least for me it works, it?s cheap and my systems are stable so I?ll continue to use it.
<< I think it's tasty, especially good with fish sticks.
On the drying note, obviously when you take apart a CPU/HSF and find dried compound, if you were to put it back together like that it wouldn't work worth a damn, probably worse than bare surfaces. But then we all reapply anyway so that's a nonissue. Has it been shown that dried out compound does not cool as well? >>
You have a good point. The white stuff that you see (ZnO) has the main purpose of transfering heat. The silicon fluid does this too, but at a much lesser extent. If the solid ZnO is contacting the heat sink and the CPU there is heat transfer, although not optimal. I would recommend to re-apply it if it 'dries'.
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