What do you think about profiting on the "backs of others"?

Flyback

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I have mixed feelings on this, but I've been thinking a lot lately how much of the technologies available are based on ideas and research done by others.

For example, Larry Ellison created what is now known as Oracle by using the ideas of Edgar Codd's relational database (published in an ACM journal way back in 1970). Ellison is a multi-billionaire.

Similarly, Bill Gates was wise enough or had the foresight at least and business acumen to purchase a CP/M clone QDOS and the rest is, as they say, "history". Gates, too, is a billionaire.

At one time I thought it was a slimeball move--making money based on the ideas of others (when I was younger and idealistic).

Then I largely felt indifferent towards it; if the person didn't want it capitalized on, they should control access to it (i.e. if it's an idea or research, don't release it to the public but instead put it to use yourself).

And yet something inside just says it's "wrong". I don't know why I can't shake it.

At the same time, those who came up with the ideas and research "stood on shoulders of giants" and have themselves benefited (in an academic sense) from the work of others. They were not an island unto themselves in the development of the idea or research.

Just because you profit on an idea does not mean you didn't put in any work, either. For example, you still have to implement it and bring it to the market, provide the funding, and do all of that crap--you risk a lot of your own in the process.

Is there some safe middle ground? Split some of the profits with the inventor for a clear conscience, or at least acknowledge their contribution to it?
 

mrrman

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its every man for himself..screw mankind...that seems to be the way of the corporate world
 

JS80

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if the guy did nothing to take the risks necessary to build a viable product off his "idea" then why should he get a cent?
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: JS80
if the guy did nothing to take the risks necessary to build a viable product off his "idea" then why should he get a cent?

What if they tried but failed? Edgar Codd tried to market his idea of relational databases to his then employer, IBM (if I recall correctly). Lots of time it comes down to right place and time for some--should they miss out because of that? Every man for themselves is one way of looking at it, but do you "owe" them nothing for such a great idea?

You have no legal or social obligation to give back to them, but I think that I'd feel a little uneasy amassing a fortune while the other lives an everyday life. I'd kick them some of the money, hard to say how much.
 

chambersc

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Topic Title: What do you think about profiting on the "backs of others"?

Perfectly fine with me.
 

JoeyM

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Originally posted by: chambersc
Topic Title: What do you think about profiting on the "backs of others"?

Perfectly fine with me.

Is there any other way to profit?
 

Atheus

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All ideas stem from the ideas of others. There is no such thing as completely original research, or even a completely original product.
 

Flyback

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Originally posted by: Atheus
All ideas stem from the ideas of others. There is no such thing as completely original research, or even a completely original product.

Yeah thats what I was thinking in my OP post (when I said they themselves benefited from others).

Not like anything is truly original, really.

I don't see why you couldn't share some profit with the person(s), though. (If you were making millions or more.)