what do you peopel think of Dish Network's mpeg4 HDTV implementation?

[Goosemaster]

well?

 

[JoPh]

:thumbsdown:

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: JoPh
:thumbsdown:

really?


Is it pixelated etc? details

 

[Pepsei]

in trying to combat illegal modded old dish recievers, they close that loophole by changing to a different encryption; but it opens an alternate way for people with free-to-air receivers (namely pansat) to get their programs for free.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
in trying to combat illegal modded old dish recievers, they close that loophole by changing to a different encryption; but it opens an alternate way for people with free-to-air receivers (namely pansat) to get their programs for free.

Tell me more!

 

[Pepsei]

some FTA models which at the moment I believe would be the Pansat 2700a/3500

but google is your friend.

i have no experience with it because i'm too lazy. i was researching regular free-to-air programming and stumbled upon that.

 

[Wag]

According to people on AVSForum they're not even sending true MPEG4 now, just MPEG2 with a MPEG4 header, essentially causing you to buy a new receiver for no reason at all.

 

[Pepsei]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Pepsei
in trying to combat illegal modded old dish recievers, they close that loophole by changing to a different encryption; but it opens an alternate way for people with free-to-air receivers (namely pansat) to get their programs for free.

Tell me more!

forgot to mention that people shouldn't do this in the states as it is highly illegal. if you live in canada, feel free.

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
in trying to combat illegal modded old dish recievers, they close that loophole by changing to a different encryption; but it opens an alternate way for people with free-to-air receivers (namely pansat) to get their programs for free.

it is also a desperate atempt to catch up to cable providers who have far more bandwith availible to them.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
well?

Is this available in all markets yet? Or still in testing?

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
some FTA models which at the moment I believe would be the Pansat 2700a/3500

but google is your friend.

i have no experience with it because i'm too lazy. i was researching regular free-to-air programming and stumbled upon that.

Really??? I didn't think any FTA IRD had MPEG4 support. Only PCI DVB-S cards can potentially support MPEG4 without any upgrades.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: Pepsei
some FTA models which at the moment I believe would be the Pansat 2700a/3500

but google is your friend.

i have no experience with it because i'm too lazy. i was researching regular free-to-air programming and stumbled upon that.

Really??? I didn't think any FTA IRD had MPEG4 support. Only PCI DVB-S cards can potentially support MPEG4 without any upgrades.

I *think* he meant the move to Nagra2 was to combat piracy, which makes mpeg4 crappy.

 

[Pepsei]

Really??? I didn't think any FTA IRD had MPEG4 support. Only PCI DVB-S cards can potentially support MPEG4 without any upgrades.

er, don't take my words for it, i have no idea what i'm talking about really.

maybe the later version of pansat, like 5000.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Pepsei

Really??? I didn't think any FTA IRD had MPEG4 support. Only PCI DVB-S cards can potentially support MPEG4 without any upgrades.

er, don't take my words for it, i have no idea what i'm talking about really.

maybe the later version of pansat, like 5000.

Nope, only HDTV FTA content is the DVB-S cards. No FTA receivers (pansat sucks btw... viewsat and coolsat are much better) are capable of HDTV atm.

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: Looney
Nope, only HDTV FTA content is the DVB-S cards. No FTA receivers (pansat sucks btw... viewsat and coolsat are much better) are capable of HDTV atm.

Yup. And DVB-S cards only support QSPK modulation. Dish Network is using 8SPK modulation. So my above comment about supporting MPEG4 is moot until SDTV channels are transmitted this way.

In the mean time, I'll continue to enjoy over 30 HDTV channels on BEV with my 1020a card

 

[Pepsei]

i stand corrected, thanks for the info.

 

[SaltBoy]

Sort of related - Does Dish STILL not have local HDTV channels available?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Wag
According to people on AVSForum they're not even sending true MPEG4 now, just MPEG2 with a MPEG4 header, essentially causing you to buy a new receiver for no reason at all.

that's awful