What do you like better for DVD movies? LCD or CRT?

[Muse]

I'm new to LCD's, sort of. Now I've got a CRT and LCD. It's clear to me that the LCD is way superior for text. I'm not yet a gamer but I've read a lot of posts about the issue and most gamers prefer a CRT at least with some games. What about movies? I was watching a DVD movie and noticed that in dull lighting conditions (night shots, etc.), the LCD has that reflective two dimensional thing happening. Maybe that can be adjusted out somewhat or reduced, I don't know. Anyway, my question is: What do people prefer for DVD movies and why?

 

[madthumbs]

Too much motion blur in conventional lcd screens. Future ones shouldn't have the problem. Also, there are lcd projectors which may be nice with a screen, but expensive. I prefer RPHDTV to both.

 

[VIAN]

LCD's just have really bad picture quality compared to CRT's.
Things that you don't have in LCD's that you have in CRT's.

Great brightness and contrast.
clearer picture
more native resolutions
easier to see from all angles
better refresh rate
better color

do you want any more reasons on why not to get LCD's for gaming

 

[SilverBack]

I have an 19" LCD.
My response time is 16ms, it's great for games.
I've watched several DVD's with it and have found it to better looking than my 21" G810 Viewsonic.
Using the DVI interface
The LCD does have a Contrast Ratio: 700:1 <<< very good for those dark scenes
And a Brightness: 300 nit (cd/m²)

I run it at it's natice resolution of Resolutions: 1,280 x 1,024 / 75Hz

 

[Bateluer]

Vian, LCDs rock in games. I get no motion blur on my NEC 17" LCD. As Silverback said, if your responce time is less than 20ms, games will be smooth.

Refresh rates do not apply to LCDs. You can stare at a 60Hz LCD all day and not feel even the slightest eyestrain.

The color and contrast on LCDs is also superior to CRTs.

You are correct on the native resolution point tho. When I play IWD and BG2, for example, I have to scale down to 800x600 from 1280x1024, the image is blurry. Its not much of a problem on 3D games tho, as my PC has enough power to run them at 1280x1024

 

[titanmiller]

I know what you are talking about, I notice the same thing on my notebook, it is very annoying. In bright scenes it looks great, but in darker ones it looks very bad and blotchy.

 

[LethalWolfe]

LCD's cannot reproduce color the way CRT's can. That's why you'll never see grahic artist or photographer using and LCD for their work.

Lethal

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
LCD's cannot reproduce color the way CRT's can. That's why you'll never see grahic artist or photographer using and LCD for their work.

Lethal

Too each their own. LCDs are superior to CRTs IMO. I'll never go back to a CRT, I wouldn't be able to stand it anymore.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: SilverBack
I have an 19" LCD.
My response time is 16ms, it's great for games.
I've watched several DVD's with it and have found it to better looking than my 21" G810 Viewsonic.
Using the DVI interface
The LCD does have a Contrast Ratio: 700:1 <<< very good for those dark scenes
And a Brightness: 300 nit (cd/m²)

I run it at it's natice resolution of Resolutions: 1,280 x 1,024 / 75Hz

Which 19" LCD do you have?
I wasn't aware that there were any 19" with 16ms response time. Well I know one but seriously doubt you have it.
Maybe you meant 17" but then the rest of your specs don't make sense. There are no 17' monitors with 16ms response times that have 700:1 contrast ratios or 300nit brightness.
Quit lying about your specs.


On the subject I have a 191t and DVDs look fine on it.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
LCD's cannot reproduce color the way CRT's can. That's why you'll never see grahic artist or photographer using and LCD for their work.

Lethal

Too each their own. LCDs are superior to CRTs IMO. I'll never go back to a CRT, I wouldn't be able to stand it anymore.

Myself, I'm partially color blind. I don't know that I'll ever be able to pronounce on the issue of which is better as far as colors are concerned. I do notice that my CRT has a much bluer white than the LCD, which has a decidedly yellowish tinge to the whites compared to the CRT. However that's relative, as far as I'm concerned. I'm no judge as to which is right. For text, obviously CRT's are lousy compared to LCDs. Fact is, text is what I deal with most of the time. The last few days, since I've set up my two displays side by side, I've been mulling over the idea of trading my CRT for an LCD or selling it and buying another LCD. However, I think I'll refrain for a while. I may change my mind and decide to have one of each. I can use the LCD for text and the CRT for some other things if I feel it's superior for those. Right now, the contrast between the two when they are side by side is disconcerting, but maybe I'll get used to that. Right now, though, there's no doubt that if I had to have just one, I'd go with the LCD. Text is king, for me. Text on the CRT (and this is the best CRT I've ever seen) is just terrible compared to on the LCD.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
LCD's cannot reproduce color the way CRT's can. That's why you'll never see grahic artist or photographer using and LCD for their work.

Lethal

Too each their own. LCDs are superior to CRTs IMO. I'll never go back to a CRT, I wouldn't be able to stand it anymore.

I agree you should use whatever you like better, but it's a fact that current LCD's cannot represent colors as accurately as a good CRT. Anyone who needs to match the screen to the printer will not be useing an LCD. That and the usually poor display quality at a non-native res are probably the only two draw backs to LCDs compared to CRTs.


Lethal

 

[Looney]

I love my 1800FP... even though i have a Sony GDM-FW900 (cost me almost $4k Canadian) that's purely use for gaming and nothing else, i still often resort to my LCD for gaming.

And yes, i've watched movies on my LCD, and have never ever had any problems... no 'ghosting' or anything of that sort.

 

[Slammy1]

Depends on the source. I think colors are much warmer on LCDs over CRTs by far, but for darker movies (eg The Matrix et al) a CRT gives better viewing. I have a 25 ms response LCD, and ghosting is a non issue. I'd much rather watch a movie on an LCD over CRT for the most part. Check out Futurama's DVD compilation on DVD; the LCD gives a very good 3-D effect.

 

[BFG10K]

Refresh rates do not apply to LCDs.

For framerate based games they most certainly do.

 

Dont listen to the LCD owners Muse. They are just trying to justify their LCD purchases in their own minds. Even a Cheap $97.00 17" CRT can outperform a 600.00 LCD on almost everything, brightness, refresh rates, scalable resolutions, correct color reproduction. The only thing LCD's have over CRT's is obvious. Space Saving and produce almost no heat.

GM

 

[Kongzi]

That's an ignorant statement gorillaman. After moving to LCD from CRT I have not regretted it one bit. Yes of course LCD's have their downsides but I think the pluses outweigh the minuses. You're wrong on some parts. Brightness is much better on an LCD. Also refresh rates don't matter on LCDs since they're always lit, making eyestrain non existant. Everything is so much sharper on an LCD. The only thing I think CRTs have going for them are that they are cheaper and can display more colors (which I can hardly notice the diff most of the time anyways).

 

[VIAN]

Lets face it, the only thing that LCD's beat CRT's in is that they utilize less space. Everything else is better on CRT's including price, more for the money. You can't go wrong with an CRT.

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Refresh rates do not apply to LCDs.

For framerate based games they most certainly do.

Refresh rate mean nothing to LCD's it is important to CRT's. LCD's are based on the "Response time" not refresh rate. CRT's generally have about a 60hz-100hz "refresh rate" where the LCD's have a "Response time" of 15ms to 30ms+ which is the combination of the rise time and fall time of the signal. You can not adjust the "refresh rate" on an LCD since there is not one.

ALL these people that are bashing LCD's should actually go out and buy one and use it for awhile. You will not go back. I have no more eye twitching and my eyes don't get blurry anymore after being on the computer for a few hours.

BTW I have a 25ms 19" Microtec with a contrast ratio of 500:1 and brightness of 250:1 and I have absolutely no ghosting while playing games. Dark areas in games such as UT look the same as a CRT.

 

[JammingJay]

LCDs are better than conventional CRTs in these aspects:

Brightness
Takes up less space
Generates less heat / consumes less energy
Has a longer life than a CRT
Does not refresh (easier on the eyes)

CRTs are generally considered superior in terms of true color reproduction, response time, viewing angles, cost (on similar sizes), and gaming.

LCDs in the last couple years has made tremendous strides in response time & contrast to make gaming somewhat comparable (yet inferior) to a CRT. I personally believe movies look better on a CRT especially on 'darker' movies as a previous member stated. I own both types of monitors and use them accordingly depending on what my needs are.

 

[ethebubbeth]

i love LCD's for text, hate them for gaming and movies

 

[MSNY]

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This new model being released by Samsung will be the BEST LCD on the market and
come very close to CRT quality. Note the specs at the bottom of the link.

 

[Mem]

Working link .

 

[Robor]

For me at home I say CRT all the way... I've got a 19" Sony Trinitron and 22" Mitsubishi Diamondtron at home. Both are bright and produce excellent colors and have very good text quality. Of course they are larger and not as good as an LCD on text but IMO the benefits (size, cost, image quality) outweight the benefits of an LCD (small and good text).

Most of my coworkers have standard Dell setups that use a 17" CRT. Well one of the execs who had a 17" LCD left the company and his LCD was available. It went around to 4-5 of the local execs and after using it a short while they all asked to have their CRT back. I've seen this LCD in action and it must have a slow response time because when scrolling text up and down there's a blur (or whatever it's called) while the text is in motion. It's very annoying.

I wouldn't mind trying out a quality LCD for work but no way my employeer is going to spend the extra $$$!

 

[Slammy1]

LOL What's funny about this thread is that the people recommending LCDs have owned both LCDs and CRTs, but the people recommending CRTs own CRTs and that's it. Yeah, I've seen bad LCD displays on laptops and such, but a decent new LCD monitor positively blows away a CRT. Not that it has every advantage, and you might argue value, but to argue quality is just pure misinformation. Refresh rate is meaningless, an LCD does not refresh the screen like a CRT. It changes what needs to change and not the entire screen which is why response time is the key factor. I hope all computer owners are happy with their components, and to an extent it is a personal decision, and to tell the truth I could care less what people have to say through lack of experience. LCDs are the hands down winner in the quality argument. Factor in costs you might have an argument, but to compare solely on the basis of quality there really is no debate. At least for people who own LCDs.

 

[VIAN]

I have a CRT that is flat screen Trinitron 21", 19.8" viewable, and this baby is awsome. I love looking at black on this thing is beautiful. True black. I have the refresh rate @ 85Hz and I experience no flickering whatso every. I can stay on this thing for hours and hours. Many people have never used trinitron technology before, well, sucks for you. This is the best type of CRT. And I have used LCD's. My college has LCD's everywhere. I hate working with it. At any angle you move it to, half of the picture is either brighter than the other or in the negative - hate that so much - really pisses me off. The blurriness, the low brightness, the low contrast, the low color. I try to tweak them and I got limited options. Come on. Some people either own LCD's or own CRT's. I work with both, and I'd rather have my Trinitron over any LCD any day. The picture looks fake, not as crisp and you can see all the boxy divisions. I all looks blurred. I look for picture quality and I am very picky. I criticise everything. Many people don't see what I see as far as picture quality is concerned. CRT's own. You just get more with a CRT.