What do you guys think of this employment site?

[AreaCode707]

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New job site for my company. I had little to do with it, just did some technical testing prior to go live. If any of you remember the navigation fogged green site with the flash sidekick and the pictures of the terrier, I think this is a notable improvement. At least this site has menus...

I'm curious what you think but also, if you see jobs on there that interest you, shoot me a PM and I'll send your resume directly to the recruiters.

 

[Unheard]

You suck @ teh linking! Link

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Unheard
You suck @ teh linking! Link

Eh, I was running off to a meeting, I put the stuff in backwards and didn't look at my post, so sue me.

 

[purbeast0]

lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

 

[OdiN]

Making that guy dance around is fun at least...

 

[chambersc]

that "sara" is less than appealing. immediately turned me off to the site, sorry.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: chambersc
that "sara" is less than appealing. immediately turned me off to the site, sorry.

Which one is Sara? There are four or five rotating characters on the site, I think.

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: chambersc
that "sara" is less than appealing. immediately turned me off to the site, sorry.

Which one is Sara? There are four or five rotating characters on the site, I think.

Asian in marketing.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

Ah, gotcha. That's not standard practice for large corps, I've noticed, and I think it's because a single email is so easily lost, isn't centralizd, and isn't searchable for other jobs. Makes sense though, from a candidate perspective.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

Ah, gotcha. That's not standard practice for large corps, I've noticed, and I think it's because a single email is so easily lost, isn't centralizd, and isn't searchable for other jobs. Makes sense though, from a candidate perspective.

Yah I can understand why they do it, but it is just a hassle to have to create an account, and typically they will ask you stupid questions that are required.

Actually on monday I was doing some of this stuff and found a job on monster.com I thought I'd send my resume to, so I went to their website and was creating an account, and they had all of these HTML errors and I was getting all of these invalid values in fields when I went to submit.

It had fields for "Country", "Location", "Zip Code" ... it wouldn't take USA or US in the country, only United States of America. I had no idea what to put in "Location" and ended up giving up because I couldn't have it accept what I put in there. It was a royal pain in the ass and I literally just gave up and did not submit my resume to them.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

Ah, gotcha. That's not standard practice for large corps, I've noticed, and I think it's because a single email is so easily lost, isn't centralizd, and isn't searchable for other jobs. Makes sense though, from a candidate perspective.

Yah I can understand why they do it, but it is just a hassle to have to create an account, and typically they will ask you stupid questions that are required.

Actually on monday I was doing some of this stuff and found a job on monster.com I thought I'd send my resume to, so I went to their website and was creating an account, and they had all of these HTML errors and I was getting all of these invalid values in fields when I went to submit.

It had fields for "Country", "Location", "Zip Code" ... it wouldn't take USA or US in the country, only United States of America. I had no idea what to put in "Location" and ended up giving up because I couldn't have it accept what I put in there. It was a royal pain in the ass and I literally just gave up and did not submit my resume to them.

Wow, that sucks. I know the people who designed our profile factored for attrition - everybody knows we lose people at the profile stage and it is a pretty major problem. Unfortunately nobody's come up with a workable solution yet really, since the large numbers of one off resumes are unmanageable.

The site we've got actually can take a resume and automatically fill in about half the profile fields, I think, but that feature isn't extremely highlighted.

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

Ah, gotcha. That's not standard practice for large corps, I've noticed, and I think it's because a single email is so easily lost, isn't centralizd, and isn't searchable for other jobs. Makes sense though, from a candidate perspective.

Yah I can understand why they do it, but it is just a hassle to have to create an account, and typically they will ask you stupid questions that are required.

Actually on monday I was doing some of this stuff and found a job on monster.com I thought I'd send my resume to, so I went to their website and was creating an account, and they had all of these HTML errors and I was getting all of these invalid values in fields when I went to submit.

It had fields for "Country", "Location", "Zip Code" ... it wouldn't take USA or US in the country, only United States of America. I had no idea what to put in "Location" and ended up giving up because I couldn't have it accept what I put in there. It was a royal pain in the ass and I literally just gave up and did not submit my resume to them.

Yep back when I was doing job searching I found online apps to be such a huge pain in the ass. A couple of the companies' apps were just ridiculously long, Caterpillar for one. And I had the same issues with stupid form boxes not accepting entries. I had one form give me a cryptic error message and I fixed it by trial and error eventually finding that it didn't like the # sign in my address. Worst. Invention. Ever.

Companies also need to get WAY more specific in the "location" field for the job location. USA isn't going to cut it folks; I care where I live. And unless I'm real desperate I'm not going to spend 30+ minutes filling out a form with a job location of USA. Why is it so hard to say where your locations are?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

Ah, gotcha. That's not standard practice for large corps, I've noticed, and I think it's because a single email is so easily lost, isn't centralizd, and isn't searchable for other jobs. Makes sense though, from a candidate perspective.

Yah I can understand why they do it, but it is just a hassle to have to create an account, and typically they will ask you stupid questions that are required.

Actually on monday I was doing some of this stuff and found a job on monster.com I thought I'd send my resume to, so I went to their website and was creating an account, and they had all of these HTML errors and I was getting all of these invalid values in fields when I went to submit.

It had fields for "Country", "Location", "Zip Code" ... it wouldn't take USA or US in the country, only United States of America. I had no idea what to put in "Location" and ended up giving up because I couldn't have it accept what I put in there. It was a royal pain in the ass and I literally just gave up and did not submit my resume to them.

Wow, that sucks. I know the people who designed our profile factored for attrition - everybody knows we lose people at the profile stage and it is a pretty major problem. Unfortunately nobody's come up with a workable solution yet really, since the large numbers of one off resumes are unmanageable.

The site we've got actually can take a resume and automatically fill in about half the profile fields, I think, but that feature isn't extremely highlighted.

Why not just have a form that has 3 fields - 1 for clients name, 1 for clients email, then one that has a "browse" button next to it that lets the user point to their resume in .doc file, then a submit button. when they submit, it just emails the resume to a jobs@tmobile.com type of email, that way the email addy is not public to anyone and it will only have resumes in it.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

Ah, gotcha. That's not standard practice for large corps, I've noticed, and I think it's because a single email is so easily lost, isn't centralizd, and isn't searchable for other jobs. Makes sense though, from a candidate perspective.

Yah I can understand why they do it, but it is just a hassle to have to create an account, and typically they will ask you stupid questions that are required.

Actually on monday I was doing some of this stuff and found a job on monster.com I thought I'd send my resume to, so I went to their website and was creating an account, and they had all of these HTML errors and I was getting all of these invalid values in fields when I went to submit.

It had fields for "Country", "Location", "Zip Code" ... it wouldn't take USA or US in the country, only United States of America. I had no idea what to put in "Location" and ended up giving up because I couldn't have it accept what I put in there. It was a royal pain in the ass and I literally just gave up and did not submit my resume to them.

Yep back when I was doing job searching I found online apps to be such a huge pain in the ass. A couple of the companies' apps were just ridiculously long, Caterpillar for one. And I had the same issues with stupid form boxes not accepting entries. I had one form give me a cryptic error message and I fixed it by trial and error eventually finding that it didn't like the # sign in my address. Worst. Invention. Ever.

Companies also need to get WAY more specific in the "location" field for the job location. USA isn't going to cut it folks; I care where I live. And unless I'm real desperate I'm not going to spend 30+ minutes filling out a form with a job location of USA. Why is it so hard to say where your locations are?

How's the location list and location display on our site, for you? That's one thing I do have some control over.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: purbeast0
lmao @ the asian woman.

personally I've always hated job sites where you have to "create an account" just to apply for a job. if it's not a job i'm particularly interested in, I usually just skip over that opportunity.

EDIT: oh yah, and I really dislike flash on sites. flash really serves no purpose and makes things more complicated than they need to be, and takes longer to load.

I'm just curious - how would you apply for a job without creating an account? Seems like there'd be no way to transmit your resume...

email them a word document. that's pretty much the globally accepted format.

Ah, gotcha. That's not standard practice for large corps, I've noticed, and I think it's because a single email is so easily lost, isn't centralizd, and isn't searchable for other jobs. Makes sense though, from a candidate perspective.

Yah I can understand why they do it, but it is just a hassle to have to create an account, and typically they will ask you stupid questions that are required.

Actually on monday I was doing some of this stuff and found a job on monster.com I thought I'd send my resume to, so I went to their website and was creating an account, and they had all of these HTML errors and I was getting all of these invalid values in fields when I went to submit.

It had fields for "Country", "Location", "Zip Code" ... it wouldn't take USA or US in the country, only United States of America. I had no idea what to put in "Location" and ended up giving up because I couldn't have it accept what I put in there. It was a royal pain in the ass and I literally just gave up and did not submit my resume to them.

Wow, that sucks. I know the people who designed our profile factored for attrition - everybody knows we lose people at the profile stage and it is a pretty major problem. Unfortunately nobody's come up with a workable solution yet really, since the large numbers of one off resumes are unmanageable.

The site we've got actually can take a resume and automatically fill in about half the profile fields, I think, but that feature isn't extremely highlighted.

Why not just have a form that has 3 fields - 1 for clients name, 1 for clients email, then one that has a "browse" button next to it that lets the user point to their resume in .doc file, then a submit button. when they submit, it just emails the resume to a jobs@tmobile.com type of email, that way the email addy is not public to anyone and it will only have resumes in it.

I think they collect address so they can tell whether the candidate is in the right physical area for the job, since not all jobs have relocation, and usually they want phone number so they can contact the candidate quickly if they're selected for an interview instead of waiting for people to check their email.

Is there a lot more required than that? I think that's about all that is *required* and the rest is optional and it may help a recruiter find you if they're looking for something specific.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: HotChic
I think they collect address so they can tell whether the candidate is in the right physical area for the job, since not all jobs have relocation, and usually they want phone number so they can contact the candidate quickly if they're selected for an interview instead of waiting for people to check their email.

Is there a lot more required than that? I think that's about all that is *required* and the rest is optional and it may help a recruiter find you if they're looking for something specific.

Heh if the person submitting the resume doesn't have a phone # on their resume, I don't think that said person should even be considered for the job.

Same goes for address. you wouldn't ever consider a person until you looked at their resume, which in turn WILL have their address on it (and if not, this person is too stupid to deserve any job) so I just think these forms are %100 worthless.

 

[WildHorse]

didn't read the other posts above.

a) The deleriously happy-faced Asian woman & black guy are hilarious & novel. Especially enjoyed her "fun," "daring" & "talented" personas. Ha!
That graphic tracks well with the text that says "...We are confident, daring and talented. We work hard, have fun and enjoy..." The text & person pics integrate & reinforce each other. Good!

b) In the "Search T-Mobil Jobs" boxes at the top, it wouild be friendlier to also provide a way to simply browse openings without preselecting a category or location. Maybe the "more search options / concept search" offers that? I didn't go that deeply into your site.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic
I think they collect address so they can tell whether the candidate is in the right physical area for the job, since not all jobs have relocation, and usually they want phone number so they can contact the candidate quickly if they're selected for an interview instead of waiting for people to check their email.

Is there a lot more required than that? I think that's about all that is *required* and the rest is optional and it may help a recruiter find you if they're looking for something specific.

Heh if the person submitting the resume doesn't have a phone # on their resume, I don't think that said person should even be considered for the job.

Same goes for address. you wouldn't ever consider a person until you looked at their resume, which in turn WILL have their address on it (and if not, this person is too stupid to deserve any job) so I just think these forms are %100 worthless.

I guess it's a time saver to make the candidates screenable. If you're looking through a list of 200 people, to be able to glance over the location without having to click into each resume is a significant time saver. And it's amazing how many people don't even have their name on their actual resume...

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: scott
didn't read the other posts above.

a) The deleriously happy-faced Asian woman & black guy are hilarious & novel. Especially enjoyed her "fun," "daring" & "talented" personas. Ha!
That graphic tracks well with the text that says "...We are confident, daring and talented. We work hard, have fun and enjoy..." The text & person pics integrate & reinforce each other. Good!

b) In the "Search T-Mobil Jobs" boxes at the top, it wouild be friendlier to also provide a way to simply browse openings without preselecting a category or location. Maybe the "more search options / concept search" offers that? I didn't go that deeply into your site.

Keyword search is available under the "more" search options, yeah.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: HotChic
I think they collect address so they can tell whether the candidate is in the right physical area for the job, since not all jobs have relocation, and usually they want phone number so they can contact the candidate quickly if they're selected for an interview instead of waiting for people to check their email.

Is there a lot more required than that? I think that's about all that is *required* and the rest is optional and it may help a recruiter find you if they're looking for something specific.

Heh if the person submitting the resume doesn't have a phone # on their resume, I don't think that said person should even be considered for the job.

Same goes for address. you wouldn't ever consider a person until you looked at their resume, which in turn WILL have their address on it (and if not, this person is too stupid to deserve any job) so I just think these forms are %100 worthless.

There's no point paying people to leaf through resumes to look for addresses and then match that with the job. The software to pull an address from a document isn't going to reliably handle the varying formats of people's resumes. This means that the only efficient way to have a software filter on a person's address to match them to a job is to requre that person to enter the address into a profile where the format can be controlled and entered into a database that is searchable by the software.

The simple fact is that most resumes are not even looked at by a human until the candidate is into the phone screening stage. The large numbers of applications simply make it terribly inefficient to have people manually sift through resumes for the relevant information. It's not what they tell you in college, but the simple fact is that the vast majority of candidate screening is done by a computer and not by a human.

ZV

 

[MajinWade]

Originally posted by: HotChic

How's the location list and location display on our site, for you? That's one thing I do have some control over.

It works well. One thing I notice about most sites is they do not allow you to select a whole state. That would be a nice option.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: MajinWade

Originally posted by: HotChic

How's the location list and location display on our site, for you? That's one thing I do have some control over.

It works well. One thing I notice about most sites is they do not allow you to select a whole state. That would be a nice option.

Hm, okay. At the moment we can only assign one location "bucket" to one location code, so the metro area is what we're using, but if we have the possibility to add state search sometime I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

 

[Aquila76]

LOL, if you spin the mouse around the Flash image fast enough, it looks like she's doing "The Thriller" dance move.

EDIT: Seriously though, this site looks good, except that there are no IT jobs in any part of MA.