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What do you guys think of the Dell Dimension 2400?

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mshan

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For a non-gaming user, any complaints?

Also, will it be any less snappy than a Dell Dimension 3000?
 
The Dimension 2400 uses "Northwood" Celerons, which are notorious for their horrible performance. I suggest staying the heck away from them. Also note that the 2400 cannot be configured with a DVD burner, which is essential for backing up large amounts of data.

If you have a $400 budget, and really need a flat-panel display, then the 2400 is your only choice. But I suggest going with a CRT, instead, and getting a Dimension 3000 with a Celeron D.
 
How does the Celeron D stack up against the Pentium 4 (I believe the Dell 2400 uses Intel 845GV and the Dell 3000 the Intel 865GV chipset)?

For non-gaming uses, can I compare speed of the Celeron D vs. that of the Pentium 4 straight up?

Also, will the small L2 cache of the Celeron D make it seem a lot less snappy (latency) than a similarly speed rated Pentium 4?
 
I think Dell is currently offering a Pentium 4 2.8 at fsb 533 vs. Celeron D 2.4 at fsb 400.

Would the Celeron D be noticeably slower (in the sense of snappiness or low latency) or get congested with light multi-tasking?
 
Originally posted by: mshan
I think Dell is currently offering a Pentium 4 2.8 at fsb 533 vs. Celeron D 2.4 at fsb 400.

Would the Celeron D be noticeably slower (in the sense of snappiness or low latency) or get congested with light multi-tasking?
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The Celeron "D" runs at FSB-533, not 400. Even so, it will seem like night and day comparing a Celeron D 320 (2.4 GHz) and P4 2.8GHz/FSB533. If it's a "Northwood" Celeron @ 2.4 GHz, the P4 2.8 will murder it.
 
Can you provide any examples of how much slower the Celeron D will be vs. the Pentium 4 in web-surfing, word processing or excel, or light multi-tasking?

Also, here are all of the options currently available for the Dell 3000:
http://catalog.us.dell.com/CS1/cs1page2...=us&cs=19&fm=11095&kc=6V468&l=en&s=dhs

Where do you guys think the sweetspot is in terms of price and performance? And do you think there will be much better deals offered around July 4 or July/August when everyone is competing for the college schoolkids wanting to buy a computer?
 
Everyone is going to disagree on where the "sweet spot" lies. Myself, I believe it all depends on your budget. How much do you want to spend? What's your headroom? Etc... As far as the Dimension 3000 is concerned, I'd say the extra $50 or so for the P4 2.8 is well worth it. But please don't assume Dell is your best bet.

The Celeron D is a decent buy. It's one of the few Intel processor lines that isn't overwhelmed by AMD's competition. Still, I would have to recommend a socket-754 system, unless you absolutely can't afford it. Try these links:

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopp...s/hp_pavilion&storeName=computer_store

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http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopp...mpaq_presario&storeName=computer_store
 
I am doing some research for the secretary in my dad's office. She initially wanted to get a complete system (including flat panel monitor and printer) for $300, but I told her that $400 may be more reasonable.

Are those HP's really well built and reliable and how do they compare to those e-machines bundles that I see for a little over $300 AR in all of the mass market computer retailers during sales?
 
I'd say HP/Compaq is a better PC manufacturer than Dell--that is, more reliable, better customer service, so on and so forth. But I don't actually have any real evidence to back that up. It's just the impression I get from my personal experience with HP, and the bad reviews I see of Dell.

HP's flat-panels are very expensive, whereas Dell offers them for a lot less. So, if a flat-panel display is imporant, you should probably look at a Dell.

Really, what you should do is figure out which features you need, and a couple other features that aren't necessary but would be very helpful. Then, see which company offers a system with your features for the least money.
 
If you strictly use your machine for email and word processing, then get the lowest base system. My 3 year old Dell P4 2.0ghz outperforms my roommates 6 month old celeron dell. with his 256mb, boot time is about 6 minutes LOL. If you want background processes liek AIM, antivirus, spyware protection, daemon tools, etc, then you may wanna consider paying a little more or be infinitely patient.
 
"My 3 year old Dell P4 2.0ghz outperforms my roommates 6 month old celeron dell."

Wow, those plain Celerons must be incredibly slow!

Do you think a 2.4 Celeron D would fee as snappy / powerful as that 3 year old P4 2.0 (my dad has a Dell Dimension 8200 with a 1.7 P4 and it actually seems fine for web-surfing, etc.)?
 
P4 imo have more processing speed and power per clock cycle. I'm sure the moment you open up that dell box and fire up ur PC, it should feel like its gliding on ice. The moment you do something process intensive like say, i don't know, disk defragmentor, then it would show its true colors. Burning a CD would mean you devote all your resources to that task and even then you might get a buffer underrun.
My advice, for the basic pc tasks get the celeron and sufficient ram.
 
I'd say a Pentium 4 2.0A is more or less comparable to a Celeron 2.4 or 2.5. You'd have to look at the benchmarks, to be sure, though.

A Celeron D 320 (2.4 GHz), on the other hand, would be a lot faster than a Celeron 2.4 or a P4 2.0. It would certainly blow away that old P4 1.7 GHz.
 
Originally posted by: mettleh3d
P4 imo have more processing speed and power per clock cycle. I'm sure the moment you open up that dell box and fire up ur PC, it should feel like its gliding on ice. The moment you do something process intensive like say, i don't know, disk defragmentor, then it would show its true colors. Burning a CD would mean you devote all your resources to that task and even then you might get a buffer underrun.
My advice, for the basic pc tasks get the celeron and sufficient ram.
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I disagree. As long as she keeps the PC clear of spyware/adware and viruses, it should run just fine. And a Celeron D 320 is certainly faster than a P4 2.0A. For certain tasks, even a "Northwood" Celeron 2.4 would be faster.
 
Those HPs seem nice, but I believe she is really set on getting a flat panel display, so I think that means Dell (or possibly E-machines after tons or risky rebates).

Seems like a Celeron D at 2.4 should be fine for her needs.

Do you think Dell will offer much better deals on the Fourth of July holiday and / or July-August during all the back to school competition?
 
Originally posted by: mshan
Those HPs seem nice, but I believe she is really set on getting a flat panel display, so I think that means Dell (or possibly E-machines after tons or risky rebates).

Seems like a Celeron D at 2.4 should be fine for her needs.

Do you think Dell will offer much better deals on the Fourth of July holiday and / or July-August during all the back to school competition?
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I think you're right. If a flat-panel is desired, go Dell.

As for holiday deals, I have no idea. Sorry.
 
they always have deals. free shipping, free memory upgrade, free flat panel upgrade. If you're patient you can snag a good deal when it comes along
 
So, there isn't an every year aggressive discounting when everyone is competing for going to college computer sales (at least for Dell)?
 
I think they do. For Grads n Dads, or the back to school PC deals. etc
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