What do you guys think of getting a fastback 67 mustang and...

boyRacer

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...cloning a GT500?... :D is that ghey? not like i could afford an original shelby let alone find one... but i think it would be pretty crazy driving the original around in the first place.

hey it beats getting one here for $150k... :confused:
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
you have any idea how much you'll spend making one into a GT500??

ok not a complete GT500 replica... but the more i think of this idea... the more it starts becoming horribly ghey... a GT500 look alike that doesn't have the oomph because im trying to cut corner$... :( damn thats just like the civics around here that have bodykits that look like they go 200mph. :( damn i wish i could get one of those cars. :(
 

DainBramaged

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You don't have to use the fastback engine. Not all cool cars go fast. But I do see the point of it being an old ricer. Except it would at least look good.
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: boyRacer
...cloning a GT500?... :D is that ghey? not like i could afford an original shelby let alone find one... but i think it would be pretty crazy driving the original around in the first place.

hey it beats getting one here for $150k... :confused:
Hey - The base model is only $50K!

 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: boyRacer
...cloning a GT500?... :D is that ghey? not like i could afford an original shelby let alone find one... but i think it would be pretty crazy driving the original around in the first place.

hey it beats getting one here for $150k... :confused:
Hey - The base model is only $50K!

Ummm... that's still a lot. In fact I would be very happy with the base. But i'm a poor college student who would like to learn more about mustangs by working on them... so this is looking more and more like a big money pit. :(
 

Ronstang

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... but i think it would be pretty crazy driving the original around in the first place.
I drive my original Shelby around and last time I checked I am not crazy. Anyway, cloning a GT500 will be very expensive with all the extensive bosy plexiglass you will have to buy, not to mention finding and building a 428 Cobrajet will get real expensive. I suggest you get a nice '67 fastback you can afford and fix it up the way YOU like it and be happy in the fact that no one else will have a car exactly like yours. You can do all the Shelby suspension stuff pretty cheap so you can actually achieve the"feel" of the Shelby relatively easily.
 

Balthazar

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....driving it off a cliff....

Oh sorry....you meant making Shelby clone :)

No seriously though, I think you are beginning to see the right path....replicas are ghey, if you want to do that I know a guy who will sell you everything for a Countach replica....looks just like one....

Nevermind it only has 150bhp at the wheels.... :)
If you really want an old muscle car, and insist on a Rustang, then yeah just go for a fastback and dress her up nicely....
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
... but i think it would be pretty crazy driving the original around in the first place.
I drive my original Shelby around and last time I checked I am not crazy. Anyway, cloning a GT500 will be very expensive with all the extensive bosy plexiglass you will have to buy, not to mention finding and building a 428 Cobrajet will get real expensive. I suggest you get a nice '67 fastback you can afford and fix it up the way YOU like it and be happy in the fact that no one else will have a car exactly like yours. You can do all the Shelby suspension stuff pretty cheap so you can actually achieve the"feel" of the Shelby relatively easily.

:Q do you have pics of your car? No plans on selling it huh? :D How much will restoring a 67 fastback cost anyway? i see a nice one in school parked all the way in a corner and i think the owner saw me driving around it with my car over and over. :D sorry... i'm an import guy and know pretty much next to nothing when it comes to domestics. :(
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Balthazar
....driving it off a cliff....

Oh sorry....you meant making Shelby clone :)

No seriously though, I think you are beginning to see the right path....replicas are ghey, if you want to do that I know a guy who will sell you everything for a Countach replica....looks just like one....

Nevermind it only has 150bhp at the wheels.... :)
If you really want an old muscle car, and insist on a Rustang, then yeah just go for a fastback and dress her up nicely....

no no no... replica lambos is just a little too much. :D the only replicas i dont mind having is a Porsche 550 Spyder, a Cobra... and this one we're talking about. :D
 

Ronstang

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Sorry, no pics except some old snapshots. Restoring any car can get pretty expensive real quyick unless you can do most of the work yourself. I suggest you find a car that is has a good body and good paint at least since that will save you a big chunk of money when fixing it up. A mechanically sound car is also desirabe but you need to decide what upgrades you want and try to find a car that needs tose type of things redone anyway so you don't pay for something twice. Getting a decent '67 fastback is going to cost you $5K-10K at least depending on condition and what part of the country you live in.
 

boyRacer

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Just made a quick look and some of those fastbacks are still selling for a premium... :Q :( ...man those cars sure are nice.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
you have any idea how much you'll spend making one into a GT500??


Cloning a GT500 isn't hard, it's all cosmetic. The engine and suspension were different, but body parts and paint stripes can be gotten from any specialty Mustang parts place. If you're a decent backyard mechanic you should easily be able to fake a Shelby for a couple of thousand over the cost of the base fastback.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
you have any idea how much you'll spend making one into a GT500??


Cloning a GT500 isn't hard, it's all cosmetic. The engine and suspension were different, but body parts and paint stripes can be gotten from any specialty Mustang parts place. If you're a decent backyard mechanic you should easily be able to fake a Shelby for a couple of thousand over the cost of the base fastback.
I would love to know where you are buying your parts to get a fake Shelby for a couple thousand more. I'm sorry but you are just incorrect. Painting the stripes on will cost you plenty to have the job done right and all the fiberglass parts needed to make a GT500 clone will cost well over $2k and will reguire quite a few hours of massaging by an experienced body man just so they fit.

 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
you have any idea how much you'll spend making one into a GT500??


Cloning a GT500 isn't hard, it's all cosmetic. The engine and suspension were different, but body parts and paint stripes can be gotten from any specialty Mustang parts place. If you're a decent backyard mechanic you should easily be able to fake a Shelby for a couple of thousand over the cost of the base fastback.
I would love to know where you are buying your parts to get a fake Shelby for a couple thousand more. I'm sorry but you are just incorrect. Painting the stripes on will cost you plenty to have the job done right and all the fiberglass parts needed to make a GT500 clone will cost well over $2k and will reguire quite a few hours of massaging by an experienced body man just so they fit.

See, that's why I used the phrase "decent backyard mechanic" instead of "pay somebody else to do it for you". Most of the fiberglass add-ons are easily duplicated and the few trickier ones can be bought for $1000 or so. The side stripes were decals and are available for around $50 a set. Exact template stencils are also available for painting on the hood/roof/trunk stripes and the job can be handled by anyone competent with auto paint and a compressor.
 

Ronstang

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Most of the fiberglass add-ons are easily duplicated and the few trickier ones can be bought for $1000 or so.
This statement alone tells me that you are full of more talk than ability. I would love to see you "easily" replicate ANY of the parts needed to make a clone shelby and have it look even halfway decent and the hood alone is over $500.
 

boyRacer

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Well I found a this for the body alone... if i wanted it to look like the one from the recent gone in 60 seconds movie. I still want this car... :(

...and this one from cardomain.com. Dunno if it's really his but that shape is just so purdy. :)
 

alkemyst

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Right now is a bad time for buying a muscle car, with interest rates down people are taking out equity lines and buying toys.

I restored a 1966 GT, not shelby although that year the two are so close it would have been just as expensive. Back in 1989-90 a full restoration going with NOS, restored original, and reproduction where it was either better than original, or the only thing available ended up with a total of about $45k. The shelby would be worth that in the condition mine was in, but a GT was only 'worth' $20k. It was built as my first car and not as an investment.

the 428 cobra jet engine isn't so hard to find if you aren't looking to match numbers. A replica is a great way to save on a daily driver...many times the two are almost impossible to tell apart. In 1966 the normal mustang and GT had no tell-tale difficult to copy differences and it's really hard to be guaranteed a real one. The shelby's were more documented, but if you knew of a 'destroyed' one you could 'recreate' it and as long as you kept the remains out of sight, no one would know....it's a dangerous market to buy in, if you don't know all the ways to tell a counterfeit, and even then still a crap shoot sometimes.

What happens sometimes is the original owner sees his car and asks the current owner about it. The current owner talks about how it's an authentic whatever and the old owner discloses he sold it as a replica to the guy who sold it as original to the current owner.