What do you guys make of the Opteron (dual core) stock HSF?

[The Sauce]

This stock HSF seems better built than my XP-90. It has a solid copper base and 4 heatpipes. Pretty sick looking for stock unit. Are people using these or is everyone replacing them? I never thought i would be tempted to keep a stock HSF...but I am with this.

 

[Markfw]

I used my XP90 since I got the OEM 170.

 

[Zebo]

It's decent for a stock cooler but nothing compared to an aftermarket one..

Only about 400grams while after markets get into 1 Kg with obviously much more surface area.

Has a little fan 70 x 15mm, that's much thinner and smaller than even the lowest end after market fans which are 80 x 25 mm on a after market HSF.. not to mention some 120's out there... This fan has hardy any static pressure or CFM.. it's built for quiet and cheapness, that's it!

Basically you're "safe" with 2.5 Ghz and under 1.5 V with it.. after that may want to think about upgrading.

BTW I sold mine for $15 so it obviously has some value.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

They're definitely a step up from your standard A64, however Zebo is right about the aftermarket cooling. What you need to ask yourself is, "is it worth ~$50 for a cooler and maybe only an extra 50MHz?" Ofcourse it might be worth it when we start to consider noise factor, as some of these beasts can boast a beefy 120mm fan. Near silet opperation and better cooling to boot.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
They're definitely a step up from your standard A64, however Zebo is right about the aftermarket cooling. What you need to ask yourself is, "is it worth ~$50 for a cooler and maybe only an extra 50MHz?" Ofcourse it might be worth it when we start to consider noise factor, as some of these beasts can boast a beefy 120mm fan. Near silet opperation and better cooling to boot.

All true but I'd give 100Mhz- 200 Mhz to some of these After markets.. I mean some are so large, with so much fluid it's basically poor mans watercooling at that point and signiigantly can shed temps at higher end.. it's not a linear progession on heat dissapation and when these chips start leaking that stock HSF heat up quick and can't get rid of heat fast enough while a big typoon/XP120 can.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
They're definitely a step up from your standard A64, however Zebo is right about the aftermarket cooling. What you need to ask yourself is, "is it worth ~$50 for a cooler and maybe only an extra 50MHz?" Ofcourse it might be worth it when we start to consider noise factor, as some of these beasts can boast a beefy 120mm fan. Near silet opperation and better cooling to boot.

All true but I'd give 100Mhz- 200 Mhz to some of these After markets.. I mean some are so large, with so much fluid it's basically poor mans watercooling at that point and signiigantly can shed temps at higher end.. it's not a linear progession on heat dissapation and when these chips start leaking that stock HSF heat up quick and can't get rid of heat fast enough while a big typoon/XP120 can.

I guess it depends, sometimes chips just have a stubborn wall...then again it might also be whoever's not afraid to pump the voltage (and its true, you?re not going to be so timid to do so with a behemoth heatsink/fan)

I was happy with AMD stock cooling, other than the noise when that little fan has to kick into gear when you start pushing the CPU. I don't doubt that you could possibly get 100-200 MHz extra from a better hs/fan, especially vs. the smaller heatsinks AMD pairs with the lower-end chips. I guess I tend to be a bit conservative. Not only is it more fun to be surprised when personal expectations are exceeded, you usually don't let down the noobs with grandiose claims