First off this is not a flame. This is not supposed to be. Got that? (I seem famous for starting those) I've been noticing a whole lot that people here have been having issues w/ asus boards. I don't know what you guys think, but asus seems to ask a hefty premium for their boards. Companies like Epox and abit have boards every bit as good as asus. Also their tech support is a little on the poor side. I've heard a lot of people complaining about it. Personally, I love my A7N8X deluxe. Its a great board and I am completely satisfied by it. I believe asus has some of the most hassle free bios flashing i've seen. But, this thread is more for other opinions. I'm curious to why people are complaining.
What do u think of asus?
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After installing several Abit, Asus, MSI and Gigabyte boards my personal opinion is that you get more for your money with Abit. All three make some very nice boards but Abit is usually my first choice. I would also say that I rate these vendors a bit above AOpen, Chieftech, I-Will, DFI, Soyo, EPox and Albatron. I reserve Super-Micro and Tyan strictly for servers and workstation building where no overclocking is considered.
I've had Asus boards since 94... my board's socket clips broke so i got a good deal on an Abit KX7-333... my first non-intel rig. Anyway it was rock solid just like my ASUS/Intel systems before... and it dispelled all those horror stories about VIA. Then a capacitor took a crap and started leaking... 
No problem though... just got an RMA with ABIT but I couldn't wait for the 2 week turnaround so I just bought another ASUS. Rock solid as well... and although I would think the ABIT was just an isolated problem considering how they switched to Rubycon capacitors for EVERYTHING on their boards now. I think ABIT boards are much more tweaked to give you more performance, their BIOS options alone I'd give them credit for. I think ASUS is solid, even if slightly overpriced... i don't think they're overrated though.
No problem though... just got an RMA with ABIT but I couldn't wait for the 2 week turnaround so I just bought another ASUS. Rock solid as well... and although I would think the ABIT was just an isolated problem considering how they switched to Rubycon capacitors for EVERYTHING on their boards now. I think ABIT boards are much more tweaked to give you more performance, their BIOS options alone I'd give them credit for. I think ASUS is solid, even if slightly overpriced... i don't think they're overrated though.Ok, I'll take the bait. I've had ASUS for a few years now and have another ready to build. Yes, they do seem to have a bit of a premium in price but I always feel I got what I paid for. When you open a box from ASUS it is well laid out, everything is there, (including some extras you sometimes don't expect) and it is all packaged solidly and neatly. The board itself is also of excellent quality and craftmanship. Yes, there are sometimes exceptions and those tend to get blown out of proportion, possibly because of that "premium" that is paid for. You also get STABILITY with ASUS. No, you won't usually get the best overclocking ability but you will get a board that WORKS!. Again, there are always some exceptions but if I were placing bets in Vegas or Reno, I'd put my money on an ASUS board before most others.
(Caveat Time) I have also built many systems with MSI, Epox, Abit and ECS (remember the K7S5A?) Of those I also had very few problems; most with Abit (longevity is a risk). The ECS boards were supposedly famous for failures but I never had one that didn't work, although with possibly some extra "tweaking". You could also say that I favor ASUS because I have never had to go through their Service Dept. or RMA. Perhaps if I had my opinion would have changed. Can't really say right now but it is indeed a possibility. I have heard horror stories about that but I have also heard the same about some other companies so I don't think they are alone.
Ok, end of my opinion: NEXT!
I've had ASUS for a few years now and have another ready to build. Yes, they do seem to have a bit of a premium in price but I always feel I got what I paid for. When you open a box from ASUS it is well laid out, everything is there, (including some extras you sometimes don't expect) and it is all packaged solidly and neatly. The board itself is also of excellent quality and craftmanship. Yes, there are sometimes exceptions and those tend to get blown out of proportion, possibly because of that "premium" that is paid for. You also get STABILITY with ASUS. No, you won't usually get the best overclocking ability but you will get a board that WORKS!. Again, there are always some exceptions but if I were placing bets in Vegas or Reno, I'd put my money on an ASUS board before most others. (Caveat Time) I have also built many systems with MSI, Epox, Abit and ECS (remember the K7S5A?) Of those I also had very few problems; most with Abit (longevity is a risk). The ECS boards were supposedly famous for failures but I never had one that didn't work, although with possibly some extra "tweaking". You could also say that I favor ASUS because I have never had to go through their Service Dept. or RMA. Perhaps if I had my opinion would have changed. Can't really say right now but it is indeed a possibility. I have heard horror stories about that but I have also heard the same about some other companies so I don't think they are alone.
Ok, end of my opinion: NEXT!
Yeah you guys bring up some good points. Something I like about asus is they are always one of the first to the market with their board designs. They easily overpower everything else from the start. Then Epox and abit come in a little later and turn the tables. I think asus needs to start getting more creative w/ their mobo designs. I liked the black pearl intel PE board from them a lot. A problem I get a lot w/ them is the intial bios the boards ship with. A big problem I've had w/ these boards is the intial bios that these boards ship with are pretty mediocre. Have you guys ever noticed that? Luckily for them they have excellent bios flashing. Seriously, asus update and the alt + f2 method both work flawlessly. I guess its #1 for a reason.
I've built 4 pcs in my life- one ranging some some Intel Chipset in the good ol k6 days with the other one as Via's MVP3 Chipset *shudders* and a Epox 8k5a2+ and my purty Nforce2.
I've found Luckystar to be sub par (though that isn't fair on that Via chipset)
The 8k5a2+ is more rocksolid than my computer, though my brother doesn't overclock so his 1900 agoga will stay that way for a while it seems....
But I love my nforce2. I like how Asus comes in with the big guns in the beginning and still there isn't another NForce2 with all the features that Asus has
Their achillies heel isn't so much their tech support (2.5 weeks for an RMA...not bad) as it is their Shipping Bios. Right now I'm running an Uber version of their bios I know that 1002A is stable as a rock...but man oh man I had problem with 1001G (though thank god for 1002.001)
But I guess that is what us early adopters get - we are the guinea pigs
The other nice thing about the Asus is to see its price just 10 dollars below the price you bought it at last November That is beautiful
I've found Luckystar to be sub par (though that isn't fair on that Via chipset)
The 8k5a2+ is more rocksolid than my computer, though my brother doesn't overclock so his 1900 agoga will stay that way for a while it seems....
But I love my nforce2. I like how Asus comes in with the big guns in the beginning and still there isn't another NForce2 with all the features that Asus has
Their achillies heel isn't so much their tech support (2.5 weeks for an RMA...not bad) as it is their Shipping Bios. Right now I'm running an Uber version of their bios I know that 1002A is stable as a rock...but man oh man I had problem with 1001G (though thank god for 1002.001)
But I guess that is what us early adopters get - we are the guinea pigs
The other nice thing about the Asus is to see its price just 10 dollars below the price you bought it at last November
That is beautifulI've been putting systems together for almost 10 years. Bought boards from asus, tyan, several others. My experience with asus is they are clearly THE WORST supporting motherboard manufacturer I've ever dealt with. Most of the time, asus never even replies period to me. That has never happened with other motherboard companies. asus seems to have their noses up in the sky. I think it's about time consumers let them know with their dollars what they think of such crappy support!
While I can understand how some have had problems dealing with the support system of ASUS (keeping in mind that I have not had to do this so far; knock on wood), I think back to times I've had the same sort of trouble with other manufacturers. MSI comes to mind, as does Epox. In both instances I got literally "squat" as far as email support. I had to call the 800 number, go through the spider web of phone support, until I could finally get hold of a "real" person. Once I got "hold" of them, I didn't let them go until I had either an answer or a resolution; period. Standing my ground didn't mean I ranted and yelled at everyone I talked to either. I always tried to be polite, firm and express myself as professionally as I could. I also made sure I knew what the heck I was talking about too. I know that doesn't always work in all situations but it has worked more often than not for me. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter who the builder of the board is; they all have their problems. What's important is how you deal with them; that makes the difference. Yes, I have had times when I couldn't get the exact kind of answer I wanted or had to wait a day or so (and then called back to remind them) for the answer. There's no such thing as a "Perfect World"; especially in this industry. However, I NEVER accepted the "status quo" of "we'll call you back when we have an answer" or other such garbage.
Gosh, I feel better now. Anyway, I hope you get the point; whether it be ASUS, EPOX, MSI, ECS, etc, make sure you have a valid point, make your point with logic instead of emotion and be STUBBORN!
And yes, I still favor ASUS and ECS has not caused any trouble in my world either. MSI and EPOX could have done better but it still doesn't keep me from trying their products.
Oh yeah, I also like/agree with the previous post that said, "I think most people overrate their ability to assemble and set-up a PC. "
Gosh, I feel better now.
Anyway, I hope you get the point; whether it be ASUS, EPOX, MSI, ECS, etc, make sure you have a valid point, make your point with logic instead of emotion and be STUBBORN! And yes, I still favor ASUS and ECS has not caused any trouble in my world either. MSI and EPOX could have done better but it still doesn't keep me from trying their products.
Oh yeah, I also like/agree with the previous post that said, "I think most people overrate their ability to assemble and set-up a PC. "
I actually like Asus. I have had fewer problems with my Asus boards. Also like Abit as well. Not the biggest fan of Gigabyte, as I have owned more than 5 different Gigabyte boards in the last few months, and had problems with most of them.
Mem
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Asus are a decent brand and use to be the best,however other brands like Epox,MSI etc have really been competitive in both performance,stability etc and now you`ll find all the popular brands are given each other a real run for their money.
In the end it`s down to price and what features you need,there`s really is no best brand now,just lots of good models from all the popular brands.I prefer Epox,MSI and Soltek as my brand choices, btw I`ve yet to have any real problem with any motherboard brand that I`ve used over the years.
In the end it`s down to price and what features you need,there`s really is no best brand now,just lots of good models from all the popular brands.I prefer Epox,MSI and Soltek as my brand choices, btw I`ve yet to have any real problem with any motherboard brand that I`ve used over the years.
Ya know, I used to think of Asus boards as complete ripoffs until I started using em. After going through flaky ECS and MSI boards, I'm more than willing to pay a little more for what I have. I also like some of the little things, like the BIOS flashing and the MyLogo features as well as the little J-Panel.. I know, it's silly, but l like these little features.
Built several system for customers using tyan , supermicro, asus, & abit.
Ranked 1st Asus, 2nd Tyan, 3rd Supermicro won't ever use Abit..
Just my experiance w/ building 150-200 pc's in the past ten years.
And will never use a VIA chipset mobo.
Regard,
Jose
Ranked 1st Asus, 2nd Tyan, 3rd Supermicro won't ever use Abit..
Just my experiance w/ building 150-200 pc's in the past ten years.
And will never use a VIA chipset mobo.
Regard,
Jose
Asus are good, but not all that. They have had plenty of quirks/limitations when you overclock them. Yeah, way better than the low end stuff like MSI and ECS, but they are not the "top" board like some seem to think.
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My sentiments exactly, except without the MSI, which I agree with oldfart about, because they have been the only truely problematic boards I ever used for builds.Originally posted by: Mem
Asus are a decent brand and use to be the best,however other brands like Epox,MSI etc have really been competitive in both performance,stability etc and now you`ll find all the popular brands are given each other a real run for their money.
In the end it`s down to price and what features you need,there`s really is no best brand now,just lots of good models from all the popular brands.I prefer Epox,MSI and Soltek as my brand choices, btw I`ve yet to have any real problem with any motherboard brand that I`ve used over the years.
cmdrdredd, are u sure about that? They had the nforce 2, granite bays, and sis 655's to the market really quickly.
Texun
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My take on ASUS is that they do make some very good boards and are proud of their reputation, so proud in fact that they have allowed their customer support (from what I've read) to suffer. Seems like a "We're ASUS so take it or leave it" attitude. They are good, but my hunch is that probably 10% of the cost of their boards is the ASUS name. I've used ASUS and found them well built... quality and craftsmanship are tops and they have all done exceptionally well.
I had some doubts about Abit for a while but have reconsidered my position on them. This KX7 board was iffy at best right from the start - one of the least stable boards I have ever owned. I flashed the BIOS and then read about the problem with the BIOS jumper and addressed that problem as well. Since then it has been dead on solid. I also have an older Abit BH6 with a PIII-550 that hasn?t spit on me one time in 4 years. Not one time!
To sum it up I like ASUS and Abit. Regarding quality, performance and stability I would say Abit is pretty much ASUS but without the attitude.
I've used many other boards with good success but none were as solid as ASUS or Abit.
I had some doubts about Abit for a while but have reconsidered my position on them. This KX7 board was iffy at best right from the start - one of the least stable boards I have ever owned. I flashed the BIOS and then read about the problem with the BIOS jumper and addressed that problem as well. Since then it has been dead on solid. I also have an older Abit BH6 with a PIII-550 that hasn?t spit on me one time in 4 years. Not one time!
To sum it up I like ASUS and Abit. Regarding quality, performance and stability I would say Abit is pretty much ASUS but without the attitude.
I've used many other boards with good success but none were as solid as ASUS or Abit.
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I trust ASUS for MoBos.
My personal favorite has always been ABit (even in the days when I got flamed in here for even typing the name) Softmenu III has made my life so easy for so long. I built a computer for friends with the only ABit that has ever broken on me.... they had it in an entertainment center cabinet, closed on all sides and the heat fried the NB when it's fan stalled. Other than that I have only replaced ABit MoBos when I wanted something newer. Not because I had to.
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I am still amazed there are people holding MSI up as a top quality mfgr. That is laughable! Does anyone realize they are the generic of the generic?
I agree their boards function out of the box, but the quality just isn't there. Cheap azzed components and PCB manufacturing shortcuts.....
Ask me who is the cheapest and MSI might get a mention from me, but ask me who is the best........ MicroStar never even crosses my mind. ASUS (among others) would be on my short list.
My personal favorite has always been ABit (even in the days when I got flamed in here for even typing the name) Softmenu III has made my life so easy for so long. I built a computer for friends with the only ABit that has ever broken on me.... they had it in an entertainment center cabinet, closed on all sides and the heat fried the NB when it's fan stalled. Other than that I have only replaced ABit MoBos when I wanted something newer. Not because I had to.
-Sid
I am still amazed there are people holding MSI up as a top quality mfgr. That is laughable! Does anyone realize they are the generic of the generic?
I agree their boards function out of the box, but the quality just isn't there. Cheap azzed components and PCB manufacturing shortcuts.....
Ask me who is the cheapest and MSI might get a mention from me, but ask me who is the best........ MicroStar never even crosses my mind. ASUS (among others) would be on my short list.
Well said. Awhile ago there were a couple of very vocal people here (I wont say who they are) that were pimping MSI boards like crazy. Every one I ever used was buggy as hell. Cant overclock worth a cr@p either. They even managed to put out a BUGGY BX BOARD!. I remember when the MSI boards used in Anantech servers crashed and brought the site down. I wont touch them.
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