What DIY BGA desktop processors should qualify for Windows with bing bundling?

[cbn]

According to this article, Windows with bing is free or low cost OS for inexpensive devices. The cost is $0 for small tablets (9' and smaller screen) and $15 for large sceen tablets (10.1' amd large screen).

Some low cost desktops like the ECS Liva and HP stream Mini now also make use of Windows 8.1 with bing.

I believe the next step is that DIY motherboard OEMs would also get access to it (for bundling with certain low cost BGA DIY motherboards).

So with that mentioned, what processors do you think should qualify for the discounted OS?

I am thinking any desktop x86 processor with a small core (eg, Bay Trail, Braswell, Kabini, Beema, Socket AM1) would be logical, but what about certain bga big cores? (eg, HP stream mini desktop uses Windows with bing and the big core BGA 2957U Celeron). What processors would you put on the list?

P.S. Not sure how the motherboard OEMs could package the OS? Certainly they could pre-load the OS on a motherboard with eMMC like they do with the ECS Liva. Or maybe on a SSD included with the motherboard as they do with the HP stream mini? Would a usb stick for installation on the storage of our choice be too much to ask for?

 

[NTMBK]

Didn't you literally just start another thread about this?

 

[cbn]

Didn't you literally just start another thread about this?

Do you have any BGA desktop processors in mind that you would like to see bundled with Windows with bing?

That is what this thread is about.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Didn't you literally just start another thread about this?

Thats what I was thinking too.

 

[cbn]

The other thread here had my simple suggestion of adding Windows with bing to the small core BGA DIY desktop boards. This thread takes the analysis one step further in an attempt to determine how far Microsoft could extend the strategy.

What DIY BGA desktop processors beyond BGA small cores should Microsoft bundle with Windows and bing?

ULV Celeron?
ULV Pentium?
ULV Core i3?

dual core Carrizo?
quad core Carrizo?

What is the likely cut off point?

At what point does Microsoft expect the customer to pay the full operating price for their mobile processor which will be used as a desktop?

I hope the additional clarification helps.

 

[cbn]

According to the Intel Compute Stick Roadmap, Core M will be bundled with Windows 10 with bing:

So that is a big core (although a very low power one) that is a step up in processor thread count (2C/4T) from the ULV Haswell Celeron 2957U which only have 2C/2T.

 

[jji7skyline]

Sounds like it's more of a collab between the big PC brands and Microsoft, rather than something that's going to be available for the DIY PC builders.

 

[cbn]

Sounds like it's more of a collab between the big PC brands and Microsoft, rather than something that's going to be available for the DIY PC builders.

I'm not sure if there is anything actually stopping a motherboard OEM from including it with a DIY motherboard . However, we know the motherboard must also at least include some form of storage as well. This storage can be eMMC, SSD or HDD.

Most (if not all) DIY x86 boards I see don't come with eMMC . So that means a the motherboard OEM would have to make a decision to add it. And therein lies a problem: Maybe not all desktop PC users want eMMC soldered on the board. Maybe some want a HDD or SDD instead? It would be up to the motherboard OEM to decide on what form of storage to ship with the motherboard based on whatever demand they feel exits. Furthermore, I don't think the big core processors and PCH natively support eMMC like the small core ones do.

With that mentioned, I have bought a motherboard in the past that actually had a bundled SSD. It was a ECS Z77 with ECS 32GB mSATA SSD ---> http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2374094, so I don't see including SSDs as something they would necessarily avoid. However, I do see the price of the SSD as probably being something the OEMs would like to see decrease (re: inexpensive board with inexpensive SSD goes together)

 

[cbn]

Some info on the ECS 32GB mSATA that came bundled:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36726895&postcount=7

And I am hoping we see more Motherboard/SSD bundling as the prices of controllers drop.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37470777&postcount=25

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37476310&postcount=27

 

[cbn]

Some BGA big core processors (mounted on DIY motherboards) I would like to see bundled with Windows with bing:

1.) Pentium 3825U (a 15W 1.9 Ghz 2C/4T Broadwell Pentium processor --> http://ark.intel.com/products/86348/Intel-Pentium-Processor-3825U-2M-Cache-1_90-GHz )

2.) Carrizo dual core

3.) Lower end Carrizo quad core

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Bing=NSA spying. Its so nice of them to give it freely!

 

[cbn]

One additional advantage I can think (for AMD) in having Windows with Bing (or even regular Windows) bundled with Carrizo is that it would make the processors more attractive for small system integrators to use in builds. Then small system integrators (or DIYers) could further differentiate from the large OEMs by using DDR3 2133 or DDR3 2400 RAM. The faster RAM, of course, unlocking more of the APUs potential.

(Large OEMs, from what I have seen so far, only use DDR3 1600 RAM in the construction core APU builds).

Bing=NSA spying. Its so nice of them to give it freely!

The OS does not lock the search engines as bing. It can always be changed to something else.