He does have a right to be paid by them for services rendered, which is the issue that was mentioned. Clear Channel cut him from their radio stations and hasn't paid him what they already owed him.
Viacom and CC go bankrupt? Please, discontinue your idiocy.Originally posted by: Jzero
Oh that Howard didn't know the future. He could have F-bombed clear channel right into bankruptcy court
Wow we have one soul who knows whats going on.
Some of the top brass and managers in CC were "pursuaded" if not pushed into contributing to the bush campaign.
The whole entire thing is a farce and a witchhunt. Stern has been targeted by the puritanical religious right for years and years. It's "ironic" that when we get an administration in office that completely caters to them, the FCC decides to hit them with indecency charges. :roll:
If you guys don't see this stuff, please, go back to sleep.
he knew what he was getting into ever since the FCC started laying down their foot. I have no sympathy for him. He's a degrading piece of...work
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Way to twist words and patronize when you have nothing better to say.
Round of applause for you jackass.
Yes he has a contract, and he will collect every dime owed to him on that contract. So, actually he DOES have a right to force CC to pay him.
Round of applause for you too jackass. At least tell him where he's wrong instead of attacking his person.
All you have to do is read my other posts.
CC doesn't have a complete monopoly, but sagalore decided to whip up a nice fallacy, then attack MY person. So there was no substance to his post, just a personal attack on me.
Turn to just about any station on FM up here in the northeast and CC most likely owns it.
What i don't get is that now that Howard is getting fined and is making news on CNN and everyone elses front page, why CC would get rid of him, now people are going to tune in just to hear what it is that he is saying, meaning that they advertisers will pay more because more people are listening.
Anubis
No Lifer
as much as i dontr like stern this is BS
its larry Flint and penthouse all over again, if you dont like it DONT FUSKING LOOK AT OR LISTEN TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its larry Flint and penthouse all over again, if you dont like it DONT FUSKING LOOK AT OR LISTEN TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chibchakan
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Clear Channel owns 1,239 stations, 44 amphitheaters, 51 theaters and various clubs and arenas. These fvcks are the reason there's so much crappy music nowadays.
The Clear Picture on Clear Channel.
:roll:
Whatever you say. Though, since you won't take the time to educate yourself on this whole FCC and stern issue beyond the CNN headlines, I'll just write you off as another self-righteous piece of work that frequents this forum.
You won't even address the issue because you know next to nothing about it. It's ok, go back to sleep little one.
SagaLore
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Originally posted by: SampSon
Viacom and CC go bankrupt? Please, discontinue your idiocy.Originally posted by: Jzero
Oh that Howard didn't know the future. He could have F-bombed clear channel right into bankruptcy court
Wow we have one soul who knows whats going on.
Some of the top brass and managers in CC were "pursuaded" if not pushed into contributing to the bush campaign.
The whole entire thing is a farce and a witchhunt. Stern has been targeted by the puritanical religious right for years and years. It's "ironic" that when we get an administration in office that completely caters to them, the FCC decides to hit them with indecency charges. :roll:
If you guys don't see this stuff, please, go back to sleep.
Just curious, what are your thoughts about downloading music via P2P?
WHipLAsh13
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Fingolfin269
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Errr, don't the radio hosts actually have more leeway now than they did when Stern started? I'm pretty sure that Mancow gets away with saying/doing much worse stuff than people could have possibly imagined 20 years ago.
Thump553
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The title is wrong-Stern didn't get fined. Clear Channel entered a STIPULATED agreement with the FCC. There is a huge difference.
Clear Channel included a stipulated finding that Stern's broadcast was offending. This is a hardball legal tactic to try to derail the suit Stern is (presumably) bringing against Clear Channel for breaching his contract. This so-called admission of wrongdoing helps both the government and Clear Channel.
While it may sound like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, I personally think Clear Channel will treat this 1.75M as a campaign contribution well spent if it makes the Bush government look effective in the eyes of the voting public.
Of the dozen or so radio stations in my area, ALL are owned by either Clear Channel or Infinity (outside of public radio or college stations). I think the FCC should go back to focusing on breaking up the insanely high levels of media ownership and control we presently are subject to. They won't, because campaign contributions count a lot more than democratic principles in Washington, but it's a dream of mine. At present the office of the FCC is being abused to foster modern day Salem witch hunts. We should all be embarassed by this travesty in the name of justice and proper regulation.
Clear Channel included a stipulated finding that Stern's broadcast was offending. This is a hardball legal tactic to try to derail the suit Stern is (presumably) bringing against Clear Channel for breaching his contract. This so-called admission of wrongdoing helps both the government and Clear Channel.
While it may sound like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, I personally think Clear Channel will treat this 1.75M as a campaign contribution well spent if it makes the Bush government look effective in the eyes of the voting public.
Of the dozen or so radio stations in my area, ALL are owned by either Clear Channel or Infinity (outside of public radio or college stations). I think the FCC should go back to focusing on breaking up the insanely high levels of media ownership and control we presently are subject to. They won't, because campaign contributions count a lot more than democratic principles in Washington, but it's a dream of mine. At present the office of the FCC is being abused to foster modern day Salem witch hunts. We should all be embarassed by this travesty in the name of justice and proper regulation.
SagaLore
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Oh noes! The devil! It's a consipiracy, I bet they're in bed with Bill Gates!
I'm reading people say that's CC has no constitutional right to dump Stern, and everyone should just change the station if they don't like Howard. Okay, if you don't like CC then change the station!
WHipLAsh13
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Don Vito Corleone
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An interesting point. In fact, Stern's ratings have skyrocketed since he started locking horns with the Bush administration, and the CC stations that have dumped him have seen their ratings tank. He read the actual Arbitron books on the air, and the most glaring example was in San Diego, where the Clear Channel affiliate that dumped him saw their overall morning ratings fall from a 10 share to a 0.9.
Whatever you might think about Stern, Clear Channel's hammerlock on radio and music is scary, and detrimental to free expression IMO. If you look at the numbers, they own 1,239 radio stations, five times as many as their second-largest competitor, and in 37 of the top 300 markets, they control 50 to 99 percent of the radio revenue share. They are eight times larger than the second-biggest concert promoter, and own 70% of the major live-music venues in the US. They also own ticket brokers in these same markets, giving them absolute control over ticket prices, and enabling them to artificially inflate the cost of their own tickets.
dabuddha
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BWHAHAHAH keep it up tool. I can see from your previous posts you're just another warez kiddie who thinks we should be able to download music for free. Bottom line, this is not a first amendment issue. No one is stopping Howard Stern from saying what he wants to say. They are stopping him from saying it using private property. If he sets up his own towers and radio station, then let him say what he wants.
As for being fined, I think it's stupid. Now hopefully you can pull your head out of your ass and perhaps understand something about the real world
This is my last post about this topic unless you can grow up and discuss this rationally instead of attacking every poster that disagrees with you. That's what people typically do when they know they're wrong
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