What Did Asian Kids Do To Make The New York Times And Bill De Blasio HATE THEM?

[smackababy]

I don't buy the whole "my group's discrimination was worse than your group's discrimination" as counting for much.

How's that supposed to work exactly, is there a point scale?

"My group's Jim Crow is worth 6-failure excuse points but your group's Chinese Exclusion Act is only worth 4-failure excuse points."

"Oh yeah? Well I'll raise you an Internment and a set of houseboys!"

"Slavery!" (Trump card played! Failure excuse for ALL TIME granted!)

Eh, according to some study, it does effect it on a point scale. At least, for SAT score adjustment and admissions.

Blacks: +230
Hispanics: +185
Asians: -50
Recruited athletes: +200
Legacies (children of alumni): +160

Those were the adjustments that were noted. This was based on the old 1600 point SAT score.

Asians aren't viewed as historically having suffered mass discrimination in the US. It might be because they don't constantly bring it up as a reminder as to why they can't get ahead though.

The usual expected overreaction.

If you read details of the NAACP suit they don't want to kick Asians out just to make room for Blacks and Hispanics they want acceptance to not be based on a single test which is having a disparate impact. They want other testing criteria included along with students GPA.

Albert Einstein failed his college entrance exam and obviously a single test isn't indicative of potential.

And what happens when including GPA and other stuff gives the same or worse (in their eyes) results? Why doesn't the NAACP focus on educating minorities rather than trying to change all the rules to benefit them? How about making them better as individuals?

 

[werepossum]

The usual expected overreaction.

If you read details of the NAACP suit they don't want to kick Asians out just to make room for Blacks and Hispanics they want acceptance to not be based on a single test which is having a disparate impact. They want other testing criteria included along with students GPA.

Albert Einstein failed his college entrance exam and obviously a single test isn't indicative of potential.

lol They don't want to kick Asians out just to make room for Blacks and Hispanics, they just want to rearrange the admissions criteria so that it will kick Asians out to make room for Blacks and Hispanics. Gotcha.

Asians are THE demographic that may save this country. Not Blacks, not Hispanics, not whites. We should be learning from them, emulating them, and attracting more, not punishing them and attempting to drive them into comfortable mediocrity with the rest of us.

 

[nehalem256]

Eh, according to some study, it does effect it on a point scale. At least, for SAT score adjustment and admissions.
Those were the adjustments that were noted. This was based on the old 1600 point SAT score.

Asians aren't viewed as historically having suffered mass discrimination in the US. It might be because they don't constantly bring it up as a reminder as to why they can't get ahead though.


And what happens when including GPA and other stuff gives the same or worse (in their eyes) results? Why doesn't the NAACP focus on educating minorities rather than trying to change all the rules to benefit them? How about making them better as individuals?

So at what point were Hispanics slaves?D:

 

[smackababy]

lol They don't want to kick Asians out just to make room for Blacks and Hispanics, they just want to rearrange the admissions criteria so that it will kick Asians out to make room for Blacks and Hispanics. Gotcha.

Pretty much this. Rather than do something to change the culture of "who gives a shit about school" that is rampant, they want to change it so people with that attitude can compete with those who actually attempt to better themselves.

 

[glenn1]

The usual expected overreaction.

If you read details of the NAACP suit they don't want to kick Asians out just to make room for Blacks and Hispanics they want acceptance to not be based on a single test which is having a disparate impact. They want other testing criteria included along with students GPA.

Albert Einstein failed his college entrance exam and obviously a single test isn't indicative of potential.

If there's a limited amount of spots available and they're not increasing capacity, then it's a zero sum game and by definition making "more room for Blacks and Hispanics" means you're kicking out other groups like whites and Asians. Whether the entrance criteria should be more holistic is a valid question but ultimately the criteria should be merit based rather than what achieves a particular demographic outcome.

 

[Zebo]

lol They don't want to kick Asians out just to make room for Blacks and Hispanics, they just want to rearrange the admissions criteria so that it will kick Asians out to make room for Blacks and Hispanics. Gotcha.

Asians are THE demographic that may save this country. Not Blacks, not Hispanics, not whites. We should be learning from them, emulating them, and attracting more, not punishing them and attempting to drive them into comfortable mediocrity with the rest of us.

Meh Hispanics are working mofos. Love em. And only about half of whites are corrupted IME.

 

[BoberFett]

Yea, decades of institutional racism is just nothing at all. I mean, getting lynched is just a minor deal. Or minor things like being prevented from voting.

That happened to Asians as well, yet black people don't want them counted as a minority.

Why is that?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Because New York whites and progressives fear getting shot or mugged by black and hispanic kids but not Asians. They're able to despise minorities who are respectful and don't rock the boat in a way they can't for minorities they perceive as prone to riotous violence unless they're given taxpayer tributes of panem et circenses.

Asian-American gangs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Asian-American_gangs

Albert Einstein failed his college entrance exam and obviously a single test isn't indicative of potential.

Albert Einstein was an avid supporter of civil rights and called racism "a disease of white people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Supporter_of_civil_rights

 

[HTFOff]

lol They don't want to kick Asians out just to make room for Blacks and Hispanics, they just want to rearrange the admissions criteria so that it will kick Asians out to make room for Blacks and Hispanics. Gotcha.

Asians are THE demographic that may save this country. Not Blacks, not Hispanics, not whites. We should be learning from them, emulating them, and attracting more, not punishing them and attempting to drive them into comfortable mediocrity with the rest of us.

When asians do the hanky panky, they're usually married or have the wherewithal to (financially) support their new family. Family structure, discipline and expectations. I would also throw mormon communities in the same boat.

I live right next to korean neighbors. At around 10pm, lights are out and no sign of life can be found.

 

[QuantumPion]

Exactly - Green talks just like anything else. These days.

If a company can make money off a brown, black, yellow, or white they'll hire them.

This has always been this case, not just these days. Hence why government laws (Jim Crowe, Davis-Bacon Act, etc) were required to force businesses to exclude based on race.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Asians are THE demographic that may save this country. Not Blacks, not Hispanics, not whites. We should be learning from them, emulating them, and attracting more, not punishing them and attempting to drive them into comfortable mediocrity with the rest of us.

The obvious answer is school children need a Tiger Mom to ensure they're doing their homework, studying, and striving to be the best possible student in their school.

 

[werepossum]

Meh Hispanics are working mofos. Love em. And only about half of whites are corrupted IME.

That's true for a lot of Hispanics. I have had several G.C.s tell me they could not operate without their little imported brown men because they just work harder than white or black men. Where they fall short is in education - as a group they just don't see it as valuable for "people like us", and that's a shame because it limits their ability to build on that hard work.

As far as only half of whites being corrupted, that's true of every group. Look around at the blacks you know and you'll probably find that most of them are decent, hard working family types. We just aren't quite as motivated and driven as are most Asians.

When asians do the hanky panky, they're usually married or have the wherewithal to (financially) support their new family. Family structure, discipline and expectations. I would also throw mormon communities in the same boat.

I live right next to korean neighbors. At around 10pm, lights are out and no sign of life can be found.

That's an incredibly valid point, but it's worth pointing out that this did not happen in a vacuum. (For one thing, it's far too noisy in a vacuum.) It starts with increasingly lax societal moral standards and the federal government rewarding single mothers. It's hit blacks far harder because more blacks were poor when it started, the legacy of slavery (barely eighty years gone when the major civil rights bill passed) and Jim Crow. The federal government will provide an income and a home for a single mother - but not for a family. That breeds dependence and a scorn for work and education unless there is some strong force countering that.

The obvious answer is school children need a Tiger Mom to ensure they're doing their homework, studying, and striving to be the best possible student in their school.

Yep. My youngest grandson (7) has a lot of Asians in his school, but none in his baseball and soccer leagues. They all take a musical instrument and extra classes.

 

[CitizenKain]

Cry more. Everyone has been enslaved. Everyone lynched. look at jews disowned and half their GD population wiped off the face of the earth and they are successful as hell just few years later. Time to stop making excuses only holds ppl back.

Was the word institutional too big for you to follow?

 

[BoberFett]

Was the word institutional too big for you to follow?

Still ignoring that there was institutional discrimination against Asians?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Still ignoring that there was institutional discrimination against Asians?

And everybody here always look at gang violence among black folks like it means something.
Yet can ignore the same thing with the Asian community

And nobody here is racist

 

[Zaap]

Eh, according to some study, it does effect it on a point scale. At least, for SAT score adjustment and admissions.

So SAT scores in 2014 are directly related to what happened to someone a person never met (and probably doesn't even know existed) 50, 100, 200 years ago.

So black kids get a failure pass on SATs because 100 years ago, one of their ancestors was a slave, and 50 years ago they couldn't drink from the 'whites only' water fountains.

Meanwhile, Asian kid gets no slack on SATs because 70 years ago his family (already relegated to being laundry workers and house-servants) got all their shit stolen by big government and shipped off to an internment camp.

Makes sense- in a 'liberals are fucking crazier than shit' kind of way.

 

[Zaap]

Yea, decades of institutional racism is just nothing at all. I mean, getting lynched is just a minor deal. Or minor things like being prevented from voting.

Look, it's OBVIOUS to all, painfully obvious, you have your failure crutches you cling to like you would die if you couldn't fall back on them and cite them as your excuse at EVERY possible moment.

So sure, you're excused to be a complete moron in 2014 (and FAR, FAR into the future) who's incapable of taking care of yourself because of what happened to someone else decades before you were born. Keep wallowing in it.

 

[nehalem256]

So black kids get a failure pass on SATs because 100 years ago, one of their ancestors was a slave, and 50 years ago they couldn't drink from the 'whites only' water fountains.

Wrong. Black kids get a failure pass on SATs because someone that was the same race as them 100 years ago was a slave and 50 years ago someone the same race as them couldn't drink from "white only" water fountains.

There is no actual requirement that their ancestors faced any such discrimination. They could have subsequently immigrated here.

 

[smackababy]

So SAT scores in 2014 are directly related to what happened to someone a person never met (and probably doesn't even know existed) 50, 100, 200 years ago.

So black kids get a failure pass on SATs because 100 years ago, one of their ancestors was a slave, and 50 years ago they couldn't drink from the 'whites only' water fountains.

Meanwhile, Asian kid gets no slack on SATs because 70 years ago his family (already relegated to being laundry workers and house-servants) got all their shit stolen by big government and shipped off to an internment camp.

Makes sense- in a 'liberals are fucking crazier than shit' kind of way.

I never said it made sense, just that it happens.

in 2014, there is really no reason other than bad parents and lazy students, anyone can't get ahead. Sure, that inner city school might not be pumping out Harvard Alum, but there is no reason they cannot get into any school at all, if they apply themselves. Barring a mental illness, damn near everyone is capable of learning.

 

[JockoJohnson]

It starts with increasingly lax societal moral standards and the federal government rewarding single mothers. It's hit blacks far harder because more blacks were poor when it started, the legacy of slavery (barely eighty years gone when the major civil rights bill passed) and Jim Crow. The federal government will provide an income and a home for a single mother - but not for a family. That breeds dependence and a scorn for work and education unless there is some strong force countering that.

Oh no you didn't. How dare you point that out! I thought that the family unit doesn't matter in society -- at least the current day agenda says so. It must be your conservative brain defect, you retard.

 

[werepossum]

Oh no you didn't. How dare you point that out! I thought that the family unit doesn't matter in society -- at least the current day agenda says so. It must be your conservative brain defect, you retard.

lol No doubt.

 

[unokitty]

Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States. They are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success, according to a comprehensive new nationwide survey by the Pew Research Center.

A century ago, most Asian Americans were low-skilled, low-wage laborers crowded into ethnic enclaves and targets of official discrimination.

Many politicians prefer unsuccessful groups that are dependent on them for their government handouts.

Isn't it logical that those politicians would feel threatened by groups whose success is not dependent on government handouts?

Uno

 

[bradley]

Two years ago, I enjoyed reading that Pew article on the Rise of Asian Americans. Although my favorite chart was the one below, just to demonstrate just how lacking in priorities American society has become.

Asian Americans are saying they have way more opportunities, freedoms and a greater standards of living in the US, which is quite encouraging. However the morals of our society are questionable, but especially the strength of our family ties absolutely suck. Perhaps we should be listening to what Asians have to say more.

 

[Orignal Earl]

The federal government will provide an income and a home for a single mother - but not for a family.

What do you mean by this?
A family consisting of a father mother and child cannot receive welfare?

 

[piasabird]

I think when it comes to Asians, a lot of them are from outside the USA. If federal and state money is going into public universities and colleges, we could say a certain percentage of the slots have to be from the USA. For instance if you have an engineering program and 9/10ths of them are foreign Asian students, then there is something wrong.