What defrag software do you use for Vista?

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PerfectDisk 8, build 64. It is as advertised.
 

videopho

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No choice but built-in.
I tried O&O (64bit) that didn't even install.
I use O&O everywhere else but Vista.
 

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Originally posted by: videopho
No choice but built-in.
I tried O&O (64bit) that didn't even install.
I use O&O everywhere else but Vista.

If you try to install the 32 bit version of O&O on Vista x64 it won't install,the 64 bit version works fine.I'm using O&O 8.6 (64 bit version) with my Vista x64,I like the different defrag options and speed it has over Vista's built-in one,I know version 10 is out but I'm very happy with the older version still.
 

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I find it amazing how many people actually worry about things like this that don't really affect anything.
 

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Originally posted by: Mem
Originally posted by: videopho
No choice but built-in.
I tried O&O (64bit) that didn't even install.
I use O&O everywhere else but Vista.

If you try to install the 32 bit version of O&O on Vista x64 it won't install,the 64 bit version works fine.I'm using O&O 8.6 (64 bit version) with my Vista x64,I like the different defrag options and speed it has over Vista's built-in one,I know version 10 is out but I'm very happy with the older version still.

Mine was an older version.
You're right the newest or 10 works.
Just downloaded and installed ok.
Running defrags on both drives at the moment.
 

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
I find it amazing how many people actually worry about things like this that don't really affect anything.

Dude, keep that thinking to yourself.
My RAID0 was 50% fragmented, down to 0.5% after running Complete Access mode
and bingo, guess what?
My FSx game loading just drops a whopping ~300% or from 10 minutes down to just over 3 minutes.
This thing is a must when you run heavy disk caching memory apps like this one.
Also a huge benefit when running video encoding as well.
 

Nothinman

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Dude, keep that thinking to yourself.

Um, no.

My RAID0 was 50% fragmented, down to 0.5% after running Complete Access mode
and bingo, guess what?

Can you even tell me what 50% fragmented means? Does it mean 50% of the files are in more than one fragment? Does it mean that there's 50% more fragments than there would be if each file was contiguous?

My FSx game loading just drops a whopping ~300% or from 10 minutes down to just over 3 minutes.
This thing is a must when you run heavy disk caching memory apps like this one.
Also a huge benefit when running video encoding as well.

I guess I could've been a little bit more specific with my wording. I know fragmentation can affect some workloads by a significant amount but they're the exception and not the rule. A/V encoding doesn't really need low latency disk access since the compression is almost always CPU bound but realtime editing does need low latency and usually the people doing realtime A/V editing have a dedicated, empty drive setup to avoid fragmentation and other I/Os getting in the way.
 

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"... Does it mean 50% of the files are in more than one fragment?..."

Based on O&O analysis, that's a fair assesment or calculation although I have not yet specifically gone into details by reading up on its site.

You may be right on one point that the video encoding may not be as beneficial as other apps like FSx.
In fact, both of my FS2004 & FSx load time now have significantly reduced, more specific, the heavy-duty FSx "memory hogged" game loading time has gone from easily 15 minutes down to 2 minutes or so after spending sometime, pampering with it last night.
O&O, IMO, is proven way far better effective than the "freebee" from Vista OS, at least IMOE.
Does YMMV apply here?
Dunno, want to hear from other users as well.
 

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Based on O&O analysis, that's a fair assesment or calculation although I have not yet specifically gone into details by reading up on its site.

But that matters because "50% fragmentation" could mean a dozen different things depending on how the product does the numbers.

In fact, both of my FS2004 & FSx load time now have significantly reduced, more specific, the heavy-duty FSx "memory hogged" game loading time has gone from easily 15 minutes down to 2 minutes or so after spending sometime, pampering with it last night.

I would say that any game that can take 15 minutes to load is an extreme corner case even if it's largely because of fragmentation.

O&O, IMO, is proven way far better effective than the "freebee" from Vista OS, at least IMOE.

And how did you come to this conclusion? How much testing did you do? Remember that the freebie is just a copy of DiskKeeper from Executive Software, the only thing it really lacked in XP was scheduling and remote management stuff and now the copy in Vista is automatically run so the only thing it lacks is administrative stuff.