what cpu-cooler is VERY good and VERY easy to mount ?

Shilandra

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I have a pentium 4 2.26 gig.
It has the stock intel cooler on it that runs constantly at 2800 rpm.
But even now when im cold booting and just typing in windows my temperature is allready at 50,5 degrees.

I just have a serious feeling that the intel cooler isnt doing his job like he should.

Is there any cooler out there for a socket 478 Pentium 4 that is as easy to mount as the intel one but that has much higher speeds and most of all , one that cools a lot better.

Oh and one thing,

I also got a standard fan that i mounted on the back of my case (hq48 aopen) wich also runs at 2800 rpm. This just doesnt seemed to help either because system temperatures were just the same without it.

If u got a good cooler for my system pls let me know what it is so i can order that.


Thnx

Shilandra
 

blade

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I'd suggest either the Dr. Thermal TI-V8639L or the Thermalright AX-478. The Dr Thermal is easier to install but the AX-478 is a little bit better at cooling and you can choose the fan you want with it. I suggest one that puts out at least 32-34cfm or better, depending on how noisy you want to go. Usually a fan under 38dba or so is fairly quiet.

For your case cooling, do you also have a fan in the lower front blowing in?
 

yuppiejr

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Something is not right with your system, airflow, ambient temp, etc... While overclocking my P4 1.8a to 2.4 ghz my idle CPU temp is only 37 degrees C using the stock cooler and a pair of 2000 RPM case fans (one front/one back). The case is an Antec 630 "mini tower" so it's not huge by any means and the power supply only has one fan so it's a pretty minimal cooling configuration. Room is between 72 and 73 degrees F all the time.

I don't think a new cooler is going to help you out, I think you should investigate the airflow inside of your case. IMHO the Intel retail P4 cooler is the best option available for the processor even for most overclocking duties. (if you balance cost, performance and noise level) I "burned in" my CPU at 2.62 ghz 10% over default vcore and maxed temp at 57.5 degrees with the stock cooler after 24 hours of 100% CPU load. Your temps just don't jive unless your mainboard is reporting false temperatures.

Contrary to some popular opinions, louder cooling via faster fans/bigger heatsinks is not better, it's just a way to compensate for inefficent airflow OR deal with extreme overclocking conditions. Adding a front case fan will be cheaper/easier for you and give you better results than going with a higher RPM cpu fan. Placement of the fans is also critical, I noted a 3 degree difference at idle and 5 degree at load just by moving my front case fan up 3 inches. Make sure you have the airflow direction set up properly, the label side of the front fan should face in to the case, the one on the back the label should be facing the outside.

Also - make sure you keep the airspace inside of your case open as possible - tie power cables together and out of the airflow path, get round data cables or at least run them along flat areas of the case so they do not block airflow.
 

Shilandra

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Ok but the main problem is that i cant add a cooler in the front since there is no room and my case has usb and sound in the front.

My case is an Aopen hq48 (its like a hq45 but with a 300 watt power supply)


I can drill a hole in the left - side (when looked upon from the front) of my case but then i cant close or open it because of the power wire that has to connect to the motherboard.

And adding it to the right of the case is useless since there is the chassis where my mobo is hung

Im a complete newbie at these things (not to computers but i am at cooling and cutting up your case etc ...)

I heard rumors that on my mainboard temperatures are given falsely (mobo = abit bd7II (no raid))

So the only option i have is buy a case that has a front and back place for fans ?

I have one on the back that is blowing air IN should i let it blow the air OUT ? or doesnt it make any difference ?

Still thnx for the replies fellas , its really appreciated :D


Shilandra
 

SolrFlare24

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Well first off, aftermarket coolers, specifically good ones, will in fact net you better cooling on your CPU. The Thermalright AX-478 is very easy to mount(uses same mounting bracket as the retail HSF). If you really don't want a new HSF then at the very least use the Isopropyl(aka Rubbing) alcohol and clean off the lousy thermal pad on your retail Heatsink then instead apply some Artic Silver 3. That will give you much better thermal conductivity and make your retail Heatsink much better performance. But if you don't go that route, a ax-478 heatsink with a Sunon 50cfm fan is not that noisey at all and will give you even better performance with that combination.

Now, as to your other comments;

1) The BD7II, and IT7 boards do in fact report temperatures higher than they should be...about 5 to 10c higher in fact. I usually play conservative and only say 5c higher.

2) Good airflow in your case is a definate must. Do you have any fans blowing out from your computer? If you jsut have one blowing in in the back then you are not pulling out the hot air. If you have two in the back with one blowing in and the other blowing out, then you are just pulling out all the air you put back into the case. I find its better to at least pull out the hot air then in the vacum created fresher outside air will seep into the case through holes/slits/etc.

On ething you may want to invest in is a slot fan if nothing else, it will take up a PCI slot position but it can suck air out of your case and help cool things a bit.

But, if after all that, you still are getting high temps, then a new case would probably be in order. With a 300watt PS you are runnining a little light anyway power supply wise for the newer chips out there. A good decently priced case would be to either grab a Cheiftech case without a PS then move the one from your old case over or even better, get an Antec version of the Cheiftech case with an Antec True Power Supply. Any of their 10x0 cases are very good in terms of cooling, lots of room, etc.

Good luck
 

Zim Hosein

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Shilandra, from you post you mention that you have the rear fan blowing in. Make that fan blow out and you will have lower case temps, hope this helps :)
 

Shilandra

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I changed it and it did lower the temperatures but not much,
I'm gonna see for some arctic silver to put on my processor.

Ill tell u then if it was better or not


Thnx

Shilandra