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What compound does OCZ's Vendetta 2 come with?
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It doesn't really matter unless you are going for high OCing and maybe not even then. I always use whatever comes with if it's already installed onto the heatsink. I can't see that I'm any worse off for having done so. If you are the type that messes with your system a lot, it won't be long before you are cleaning it off and putting some new stuff on anyway.
I recently bought some MX-2, but haven't had an opportunity to use it yet. Prior to this I've been using AS Ceramique and I was more than happy with it - easy to apply and easy to clean off and within a few degrees of the latest hot goop. Can't go wrong with TX-2 or MX-2 or even Ceramique.
.bh.
I recently bought some MX-2, but haven't had an opportunity to use it yet. Prior to this I've been using AS Ceramique and I was more than happy with it - easy to apply and easy to clean off and within a few degrees of the latest hot goop. Can't go wrong with TX-2 or MX-2 or even Ceramique.
.bh.
It comes with the useless white goo stick unfortunately (not to mention that useless pushpin mounting mechanism). Buy some OCZ freeze to use instead - it's better than mx-2 and as5. The difference between a useless thermal grease and top pastes such as OCZ freeze can be around 10 degrees celcius, so I'd recommend ignoring the above poster unless you enjoy spending 40 on a heatsink and then putting crappy goo all over it. Might as well buy a cadillac and paint it hot pink.
BonzaiDuck
Lifer
This seems like a perpetual issue. I want to be "open-minded."
But in all the discussions comparing MX-2 (or whatever) with AS5, I never see a comparison with IC Diamond.
But in all the discussions comparing MX-2 (or whatever) with AS5, I never see a comparison with IC Diamond.
mpilchfamily
Diamond Member
The difference is not that significant between thermal compounds. Really the spread is only about 5C.
33-Way Thermal Interface Roundup
Pretty big spread of 8c between thermal compounds, the IC seven carat diamond ranks forth, AS5 ranks 3rd, MX-2 ranks 10th, OCZ freeze ranks 2nd.
If you don't care about 8c difference on your processor that's fine with me. Not everyone is a computer enthusiast and that's okay. Personally I'll pay 5 bucks and get those 8 celcius so I can overclock more and also to grow my epeen.
Pretty big spread of 8c between thermal compounds, the IC seven carat diamond ranks forth, AS5 ranks 3rd, MX-2 ranks 10th, OCZ freeze ranks 2nd.
If you don't care about 8c difference on your processor that's fine with me. Not everyone is a computer enthusiast and that's okay. Personally I'll pay 5 bucks and get those 8 celcius so I can overclock more and also to grow my epeen.
JEDIYoda
Lifer
In reality you need to define the word better.......
Better as in everytime it is used under every different circumstance????
Better by how much...1/2 degree??
Letsn see TidusSZ yuo have 57 posts and NO reputation....
Zepper has over 18,000 posts and probably knows more about this subject thhan most people.....
The Op should go with what Zepper has to say!!
BTW -- I also agree with Zepper!!
Peace!!
BonzaiDuck
Lifer
I'm trying to find a way to say this.
The reviewer gives a list of elements or substances ranked by thermal conductivity (or conversely and inversely, thermal resistance). Carbon is listed, but only in its "carbon" form. Diamond is missing from the list. If it were, it would show to be about 3 times more conductive than Silver.
The reviewer then goes on to do the testing, and then describes the IC Diamond product as "Aluminum Oxide." At the end, he acts puzzled about what the manufacturer uses in the mix, but suggests that it's a "high-performer."
But even though it shows to be a high performer, the results don't match those I had with my own micronized-synthetic-diamond TIM, which in turn matched my results with IC Diamond's results -- which in turn matched the results reported on the INnovation Cooling web-site.
With the same testbed, processor, over-clock settings, room-ambient, and CPU cooler, my tests showed that either my own (diamond) paste or IC Diamond makes for a 3 to 4C degree improvement over Arctic Silver 5. This is not what the BenchMark Reviews test shows.
My tests -- and Innovation Cooling's -- were conducted with a processor thermal wattage of about 110 to 120W. Higher wattages would attenuate the difference between any pair of TIMs, but the differences would still be measurable.
And now that I see his "Test System" description, I can see that the reviewer's processor is probably in the same thermal wattage range.
That's all I have to say about it.
Rudy Toody
Diamond Member
BonzaiDuck, this is exactly what I have been saying based on test results with IC Diamond on the AnandTech Distributed Computing forum. In my posts in the earlier thread started by this OP, there are links to this testing.
EDIT: the prior thread was not started by this OP: It is here.
EDIT: the prior thread was not started by this OP: It is here.
WoodButcher
Platinum Member
Haha, I agree with you Jedi, I find it hard to ignore postings such as TZ's. Zepper has been doing this awhile, I tend to agree with him as to ease of application and cleanup. I've tried many different pastes and a few that were highly recommended like the Shin-Etsu MX-1 and TX-2 fell far short when taking into consideration application. I don't like having to thin compounds before use. I've used at least a dozen different pastes myself and I'm always looking for something better, in fact I have a couple of tubes of IC diamond to try next thanks to the Duck always ranting on about it.:laugh: I prefer things simple and if I need to suggest a compound to someone whose skills and level of expertise I know nothing about I tell them to use Ceramique, It is easy to use, non conductive and not a bad performer.
Kid, If E-peen is important to you look listen and learn. Around here I would think you have a teeny weeny epeeny. While Bench mark reveiws gave OCZ high marks this is not a good reason to sing it's praises, why not raise the flag for TC Consultants? It is the word of people like Zepper, Bonzai Duck and Jedi that are heard around here.
Post count doesn't affect the recommendation of a lower performing TIM to trump that of a higher performing one. It's simple numbers, and he's better off with the OCZ freeze or a handful of other products over the MX-2. I have a stick of MX-2 myself, and I wouldn't use it unless I really had to. If he can get the TC Consultants paste then more power to him, but for the .1c difference reported in this one testing I'm gonna go out on a limb and say its not worth the effort of tracking it down. If you wan't to talk down to me like the OCZ paste is not better than MX-2 when the numbers are right infront of us, go ahead and be my guest. You may not got the epeen but you sure got balls, going into an argument having nothing.
WoodButcher
Platinum Member
To begin with I'm not here to argue, as you found a reveiw that gives you reason to like the OCZ product I found one that made me feel I'd rather not, "If you are like me, you aren't going to be too fond of the OCZ FreeZe's consistency. While it has the same grayish appearance we've seen before it is a decidedly thicker and different than anything we've seen. Spreading it around felt more like spreading peanut butter than warm butter". Now I haven't used this stuff but I have used many others and have found that my OC has always been limited by hardware rather than thermal paste, as Ruby said in another thread
So for the OP it really wouldn't be worth the wait to order new, use what he has and with his next order of PC toys buy a tube of OCZ or whatever flavor strikes his fancy.
So for the OP it really wouldn't be worth the wait to order new, use what he has and with his next order of PC toys buy a tube of OCZ or whatever flavor strikes his fancy.
JEDIYoda
Lifer
TidusZ -- I rememeber back in these forums when the innovative CPU coolers were all the rave -- the Zalman 9500...and anything else that was copper....
Everybody and there brother had a website with a review that supported there opinion of whatever Cooler they liked!!
I am happy that you found a review that supports what you believe to be true!
Congratulations!
The fact remains what you cited is just one review!
We use to have a saying on these forums thats anybody can find one review that will back up whatever they are arguing for or against!
Now to find two reviews that meant you were onto something...
Then if you found three or four then you had the proper sup[port for your contention.....
Zepper over 18,000 posts........Amazing
TidusZ a mere 58 posts......Priceless!! 🙂
Jedi, I agree that a lot of people tend to spam misinformation having read one source or after hearing subjective accounts of so and so being a good/bad product. It's true everywhere. What I do not agree with is your condescending notion that post count somehow equates to experience with computers or reputability of one's statements. I've been messing around with computers since I was under two years of age, I"m 23 now, and my first video card that got me excited was made by Trident. I paid $200 for 4 mb of ram so I could play under a killing moon. I've been reading anandtech, hardocp, even sharkyextreme back in the day, for many years - and posting for several months. The requirements for posting on here aren't too demanding, and any 12 year old excited about their latest lapjob (no pun intended) can go on here and kill 10 posts talking about next to nothing. If you want to say that i'm wrong then bring me evidence - I'm all about evidence - and so far you have nothing that shows that my recommendations are wrong.
Oh, and thanks for the post, I know I feel like I know a lot more about what I'm talking about just by writing it.
Oh, and thanks for the post, I know I feel like I know a lot more about what I'm talking about just by writing it.
Jedi, I respect you but this whole post-count thing is a bit ignorant. Just going by post count doesn't mean anything except that Zepper and you have been here longer and post more than this Tidus guy does. Now I know that Zepper is a great guy that knows his stuff but that doesn't mean anyone should strike down a newer member for his opinions because his post count e-penis is smaller.
Now with regards to the topic, the type of thermal paste does matter to some degree. Many of today's high preformance compounds like TX-2, AS5, creamique, OCZ have all gotten so excellent that they only vary by a degree or two of actual thermal transfer. But if you take a look at those compounds compared to the stock thermal pads that comes on heatsinks and chipsets, then you'll see a bigger difference for sure. I know this because I overclock and have applied new pastes onto my build countless times.
Picking up a tube of some nice thermal paste for 5 bucks makes sense when you're going for an overclock or just want another 2-3 degree drop after buying a $50 cooler. If you just want you're rig to work, you don't need to care about what paste you're using at all.
Now with regards to the topic, the type of thermal paste does matter to some degree. Many of today's high preformance compounds like TX-2, AS5, creamique, OCZ have all gotten so excellent that they only vary by a degree or two of actual thermal transfer. But if you take a look at those compounds compared to the stock thermal pads that comes on heatsinks and chipsets, then you'll see a bigger difference for sure. I know this because I overclock and have applied new pastes onto my build countless times.
Picking up a tube of some nice thermal paste for 5 bucks makes sense when you're going for an overclock or just want another 2-3 degree drop after buying a $50 cooler. If you just want you're rig to work, you don't need to care about what paste you're using at all.
JEDIYoda
Lifer
You have just one review that you are basing your recommendation on....show me 2 or 3 and thewn you might be onto something...
Check out what Bonzia Duck has to say on the matter....
You will notice the Ducks post counts not very high oether....
Yet if you ask 100 people who post on these forums 100 out of 100 will tell you the Duck knows his stuff!!
Peace!!
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