What combination to go for 5960X?

[naxeem]

What bothers me... is to go:
X99 Deluxe + H105 + NZXT H440 or R4
or
Rampage V (EATX) + H110 + no idea what case to take then... Need it to be as quiet as possible, but also want best performance for 5960X @ 4,0+...

NZXT H440 was mentioned for "bad airflow", R4 is praised all around for quality, but since I'd like to go EATX and H110 not sure if any of those fit. Maybe FD XL R2 could house any solution, but then there is D900...

Any suggestion?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

What bothers me... is to go:
X99 Deluxe + H105 + NZXT H440 or R4
or
Rampage V (EATX) + H110 + no idea what case to take then... Need it to be as quiet as possible, but also want best performance for 5960X @ 4,0+...

NZXT H440 was mentioned for "bad airflow", R4 is praised all around for quality, but since I'd like to go EATX and H110 not sure if any of those fit. Maybe FD XL R2 could house any solution, but then there is D900...

Any suggestion?

You should read the reviews on overclocking this monster before you get your hopes up. I'm guessing that an H110 cooler might be sufficient to reach a 4.0Ghz clockspeed, but it's also a matter of a "lottery" with what you get:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/3

The 4.0 Ghz target seems "do-able." Your choice of a cooling strategy and the choice of a case are intertwined. The Anandtech review deploys a CoolerMaster Nepton 140 AiO cooler, and I'm only guessing that it has lower performance than an H110.

You'd worry more about a case's airflow with an air-cooler, but there must be sufficient airflow and opportunity to cool your H110 radiator. I can't see why the NZXT cases wouldn't do that. Will the cooler fit in the case? Will there be sufficient intake air to feed the radiator fans as exhaust?

Also -- why an EATX motherboard? The X99-Deluxe has had some pretty decent reviews. Nor would I change my choice of a cooler one motherboard is pricier than another.

 

[naxeem]

You should read the reviews on overclocking this monster before you get your hopes up. I'm guessing that an H110 cooler might be sufficient to reach a 4.0Ghz clockspeed, but it's also a matter of a "lottery" with what you get:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/3

The 4.0 Ghz target seems "do-able." Your choice of a cooling strategy and the choice of a case are intertwined. The Anandtech review deploys a CoolerMaster Nepton 140 AiO cooler, and I'm only guessing that it has lower performance than an H110.

You'd worry more about a case's airflow with an air-cooler, but there must be sufficient airflow and opportunity to cool your H110 radiator. I can't see why the NZXT cases wouldn't do that. Will the cooler fit in the case? Will there be sufficient intake air to feed the radiator fans as exhaust?

Also -- why an EATX motherboard? The X99-Deluxe has had some pretty decent reviews. Nor would I change my choice of a cooler one motherboard is pricier than another.

That is why I ask. I've read all reviews: 5960X should go 4.0 without a problem, even a bad batch. H105 cools it fine, I guess H110 is even better.

And then, well, NZXT H440 airflow is probably less than ideal like R4 I presume...

About board, yeah, might be an overkill, but can't hurt to get this 5960X stable?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

That is why I ask. I've read all reviews: 5960X should go 4.0 without a problem, even a bad batch. H105 cools it fine, I guess H110 is even better.

And then, well, NZXT H440 airflow is probably less than ideal like R4 I presume...

About board, yeah, might be an overkill, but can't hurt to get this 5960X stable?

Well, actually -- I'm planning to build one of these myself, although still eyeing the Devils Canyon option. The i7-5930K chip looks promising, as does the 5820K. I thought I also came across better prospects for the 5960X, or maybe I linked them in my last post.

With the ASUS boards, you don't need to spend top-dollar on the flagship board to get the same performance. Often, their midrange boards are built to a similar spec, and only miss certain features of the flagship. I'd been investigating the X99 Deluxe over the last month or so, and continue to look at it. It's actually a cut above what I'd usually pick, but then -- this will be a hex-core "E" system. I'm more likely to pick the 5930K over the 5960X, though.

The worst part of this for me will be picking the case -- worse would be modding the case that I pick -- and fitting the radiators to it. It will be worth the attention to a simple but custom water loop, and greater cooling power than an AiO.

But the Corsair 100/110 and CM Neptons are probably adequate. That seemed to be indicated by the review article and test results.

 

[mistersprinkles]

It's cheaper to get a 5820K and a high end board vs a 5930K and a mid range board. Case in point- 5820K+ X99-E WS = 16/16/16/16PCIE lanes. 5930K+ X99-A= 16/8/8/8 for quad SLI/Xfire. The only difference between the 2 CPUs is 100Mhz and 12 PCIE 3.0 lanes.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

It's cheaper to get a 5820K and a high end board vs a 5930K and a mid range board. Case in point- 5820K+ X99-E WS = 16/16/16/16PCIE lanes. 5930K+ X99-A= 16/8/8/8 for quad SLI/Xfire. The only difference between the 2 CPUs is 100Mhz and 12 PCIE 3.0 lanes.

True -- indeed. But if one were absolutely sure not to venture into tri-SLI, you wouldn't need the extra features. Instead, I try and compare phase-power designs across different makes and models. I look for guarantees of solid-state caps and mosfets. I want better heatsinks than what you might find on an "-A" motherboard from ASUS.

But I don't need the little contact-pads for use with a digital voltmeter. I don't even need LED-lit pushbutton switches for "reset," "power-on," and "CMOS-reset." Nor do I need a bundled USB 3 front-panel port or hub. I likely don't need "extra" controllers -- for eSATA or the ubiquitous Marvell SATA.

The real question: could you tweak and overclock an i7-5930K (or 5820K) just as well with a $250 or $300 motherboard as you might with the $450 flagship?

I don't discourage spending money both ways. I've bought flagship boards myself. But I've seen also what the midrange options can be these days.

 

[dmoney1980]

OP - I have a 5930k with a Rampage V board, sitting inside a Corsair air 540, under a corsair h100i. I have the cpu mildly overclocked to 4ghz, as I really don't have a reason to push it beyond that at the moment. Temps hit mid 70's at full load under prime, but that's with the fans set really low (under 800 rpm max). During gaming, the CPU never reaches 60*. I'm using Corsair AF 120 quiet edition fans.

A 5960x will run hotter than my CPU, but you could easily adjust for higher RPM's, or get something like a Corsair h110.

The pic below shows that I still have some room to add 2 fans to do push / pull on the H100i, so I think that you may be safe even with an H105 cooler there, though cabling up top would be a little tight.

My 2 cents

 

[BonzaiDuck]

OP - I have a 5930k with a Rampage V board, sitting inside a Corsair air 540, under a corsair h100i. I have the cpu mildly overclocked to 4ghz, as I really don't have a reason to push it beyond that at the moment. Temps hit mid 70's at full load under prime, but that's with the fans set really low (under 800 rpm max). During gaming, the CPU never reaches 60*. I'm using Corsair AF 120 quiet edition fans.

A 5960x will run hotter than my CPU, but you could easily adjust for higher RPM's, or get something like a Corsair h110.

The pic below shows that I still have some room to add 2 fans to do push / pull on the H100i, so I think that you may be safe even with an H105 cooler there, though cabling up top would be a little tight.

My 2 cents

Interesting. The latest Maximum PC issue features a spot for the 5960X, noting that they didn't have time to explore its full OC'ing potential, but "some vendors" stated that "4.5 Ghz was obtainable." They didn't say "what cooler" or what temperatures. They noted that newer versions with improved micro-code could improve the over-clock-ability.

Given the stock clocks on the three E models, you might figure that 4.0 Ghz is "decent OC potential." So comparing to the i7-4790K, which gives you 4.4 Ghz at stock turbo, it's a tradeoff between number of cores and the OC limits. Either way, you get the performance you pay for.

ADDENDUM: THE BOARD

There are "rumors" on the web that folks suffered damage using the X99-Deluxe. Nothing about this comes up in the lab-test reviews, however. Further, I see the same sort of customer-review profile at the Egg so common to many reliable motherboards: indications that users don't know what they're doing. But there are also indications that the BIOS/firmware is "not yet mature."

I think if you HAD to choose between an EATX (Rampage) and ATX (X99-Delucks) and felt DRIVEN to the EATX choice, that's a bad set of choices. Nothing "wrong" with EATX, nor all the bling features of the Rampage. But there have to be better options -- even an mATX offering . . . somewhere . . .

 

[FiLeZz]

5960x and rampage all the way.

and the corsair d900 these are my choices as these are what I own.

Good luck with your pick.